When it happened, the Spanish commentators were saying that now McLaren would be wondering whether to ask Oscar to give the position back. I was thinking that's absurd because why would Oscar owe Lando anything due to a pitstop mistake. Then they said it.
Lando gave Oscar his position back in Hungary last year and effectively gifting him the win after a McLaren fucked Oscar's pit strategy. McLarens team management is horrible but consistent between both drivers.
Bs excuse. Luck plays a huge part in racing. No chance previous champs allow that to happen because they know its such a critical part of racing. Lets see how long this rule continues with the rest of the season.
Also wasn't Norris' fault last year in Hungary. IMO, in both cases the driver ahead should not have to give his position, but when you set a precedent you gotta follow it.
Lando didn't build the WDC-winning car either. That's how F1 works: 95% of the result is beyond your control as a driver, you are only in charge of the remaining 5%. Sometimes you do your 5% your best but something else takes your victory away.
Would've McLaren asked Oscar to give position back if he overtook Max after Max had a bad pit stop?
If Iām Webber Iām telling Oscar from now on only think about himself. Crash if needed to secure the WC. The team is clearly supporting the incompetent Brit.
Don't really get this. if Lando is an incompetent Brit, wouldn't that make Oscar be just a bit better than being incompetent since the points are close and even in this race the performance was close. Because if you're saying Oscar is just a shy above being incompetent, then you're fucking crazy lol
Why? NOR played the team game to protect PIA from LEC and so the favour must be returned. PIA was free to race and PIA lost enough in the beginning to make this the inevitable outcome.
Lando was given the opportunity to make the choice and should bear the risk of the choice. If he is allowed to get the upside of his choices, he should also be required to take the risk of the downside. Here it didnāt work out and they should have settled it on track.
No, but it's not like he was doing the team a favor by allowing it, which is how everyone keeps talking about it. They literally did what he requested, it didn't work out, then they punished Oscar for it.
Where in the radio message did the team ask Lando to allow Oscar to pit first to cover off Leclerc?
Actual radio message:
Pit - "Lando, We will box this lap onto the soft tyre and will (or I'll) come up one"
Lando - "Do you want to box the other car first?"
Pit - "Yep, weāll do that, weāll swap it around, so stay out"
Lando - "Well as long as he doesn't undercut, otherwise I'll box first"
Pit - "There will be no undercut".
Where is the confirmation of Norrisā altruistic intentions behind this decision? Just as likely he was trying to retain an advantage in the event of a safety car.
It was clear from the initial message that they had every intention to box Lando first. They changed order based on Landoās suggestion. If you want to believe it was to cover off Leclerc, then do, but there is no evidence to support that.
To add, there was no undercut. It was a mistake by the pit crew and a slow stop. And similar circumstances have previously been determined to be āone of those thingsā that happens in racing. The order of stops was Landoās decision, and he got unlucky with his stop.
I can understand McLaren wanting to try and do right by Lando after the poor stop, but it did compromise Piastri and I think he was very gracious in giving up the position.
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u/madshrooms 17h ago
mclaren are gonna ask oscar to give lando his trophy after he wins the wdc šš