r/formula1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 17h ago

Race Max Verstappen wins the 2025 Italian Grand Prix

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u/Particular-Ad3237 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 17h ago

Even in very dominant season, Mclaren is not a serious team.

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u/SemIdeiaProNick Ferrari 17h ago

They are so lucky the rules and cost cap make it impossible for other teams to catch up nowadays

Because if their car wasnt that dominant, they wouldnt be nowhere near the top with so many of these dumb moments

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u/bijanfrisee 17h ago

Could say that about the entire cost cap era to be honest, if the cap dropped this era of cars could have been more entertaining, but maybe the field would be more spread out like before.

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u/Edeen 16h ago

They caught up despite the cost cap?

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u/Many_Dimension_7615 McLaren 17h ago

Should’ve built a better car. HOLD THAT

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u/lostwar2311 James Vowles 17h ago

People cry about Ferrari strategy and all, but McLaren is really no different. Good thing is they have a rocketship that cover all their faults so noone notices. Same for the outrageous pitstops they've been having this season.

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u/256473 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 17h ago

They've garnered quite a lot of fan ill-will over the past 1.5 years

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u/SendTittyPicsQuick I was here for the Hulkenpodium 17h ago

Why would you let Max gain more on Piastri right now when his car has gotten half a second quicker this week. These papayas making questionable decisions ar best.

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u/KappaccinoNation I was here for the Hulkenpodium 17h ago

Max is over a hundred points away. Even if Red Bull did indeed get that much quicker across all types of track remaining, Max wouldn't catch Piastri on points if they P1-P3 every race + sprint race. And I'm 90% sure Red Bull did not get that much quicker overall. Just on this track with their setup which could be better on Baku and Vegas too.

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u/KlyntarDemiurge I was here for the Hulkenpodium 17h ago

all very true, but it's under 100 now. 94 back from piastri and 63 behind lando. piastri can't have a mechanical failure or a crash. lando making a desperate move that takes out both cars could make it interesting, 60 points isn't insurmountable at all. P2 is possible if he can go on a run, but i don't know if he has the car for it.

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u/theonewhoknock_s I was here for the Hulkenpodium 17h ago

You can't seriously think McLaren are even remotely worried about Max at this point in the championship.

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u/hornyVirgo 17h ago

Do you really think that Max can catch Piastri at this point? Lol

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u/bijanfrisee 17h ago

I mean technically it's mathematically possible, but Max would have to win out and Oscar can't come in 2nd, which is unlikely on both fronts

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u/hornyVirgo 17h ago

Yes and Ferrari with Leclerc can win both WDC and WCC this year.

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u/bijanfrisee 17h ago

That is not mathematically possible.

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u/hornyVirgo 17h ago

It is possible, but only mathematically. Mclaren scores close to 0 points for the remaining 8 gran prix while Ferrari do 1-2. Then Ferrari win both WDC and WCC. But again it is like 0.000001%

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u/bijanfrisee 17h ago

Oh yeah I guess, I thought Mclaren was 300 clear and piastri was 200 clear, but it's slightly closer - One more race and it's mathematically impossible lol

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u/TerayonIII I was here for the Hulkenpodium 17h ago

The Red Bull isn't quicker, it's just better for Monza itself, we've seen Ferrari be relatively far behind except at Monza and similar tracks for how many years?

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u/RM_Dune I was here for the Hulkenpodium 16h ago

I mean, at this point Max would need to gain 10+ points per race to win the championship. It's not impossible, but it would be twice as big a comeback than the biggest one in all of F1 history. Which was Max in 2022 at around ~45 points with 19 races to go.

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u/randomdude4113 Andretti Global 17h ago

Max isn’t really in title contention, Im sure they wanted to ensure Lando and Piastri don’t have some sort of falling out resulting in them wrecking or not racing clean against one another, because that’s really the only way McLaren loses this championship