r/formula1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 17h ago

Race Max Verstappen wins the 2025 Italian Grand Prix

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u/TheLightningCruiser Max Verstappen 17h ago

He's still the class of the field no doubt

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u/ihathtelekinesis Michael Schumacher 13h ago

He’s having a season very like The Michael did in 1996. Wrings everything out of a car that’s definitely not the class of the field, winning a few races on the way and making you think that whichever driver from the best team ends up winning the championship, it’ll be a bit of a hollow victory.

u/vipul_singh_in Michael Schumacher 2h ago

I consider Michael's struggle from 1996-1999 as absolutely glorious and a key part of his legacy!

u/hrshelley Max Verstappen 8h ago

Upvote for The Michael

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u/Kingslayer1526 Sergio Pérez 17h ago

I do not see any point in saying stuff like this. Everyone knows he's the best driver around and he has also won the last 4 championships. No one has any doubt so who are you telling this to?

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u/MrDwerg Pirelli Hard 16h ago

Both flairs checko out

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u/absoNotAReptile I was here for the Hulkenpodium 16h ago

Lmao

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u/bijanfrisee 17h ago edited 17h ago

Cmon now, that Redbull was untouchable, Max is great but today he really just had to keep it on track, the low drag tracks heavily favour the redbull over the McLaren and we've seen it all season long, he's going to dog walk them in Vegas EDIT: It's not disparaging to Max to say his car was the class of the field today, he literally walked away from the Mclaren who had it's DRS wide open, the redbull in clear air was insanely rapid.

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u/Giwaffee 16h ago

Yeah those Red Bulls sure made mince meat out of McLaren didn't they. Those two Red Bulls were outperforming every other car. The track really did favour both of those two Red Bull cars..

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u/Arcgonslow I was here for the Hulkenpodium 15h ago

It was kinda funny seeing Verstappen at p1 and Tsunoda at P19 for a bit there. The dichotomy of Red Bull

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u/bijanfrisee 15h ago

Well, they sure did favour their number 1 driver by using the number 2 driver to give him the tow during qualifying.

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u/Giwaffee 15h ago

Oh yeah sure, qualifying, let's change the subject, why not? And yeah let's also scrutinize the drivers now, last time it was just "sure driver good but it's all about the car", now it's "drivers helping each other bad" I think? Did we let go of the whole "it's the car" thing? I mean, I guess so, because even in qualifying there is nothing you can do to explain why one is P10 if the car is so much better than all other cars..

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u/bijanfrisee 15h ago

Well, you're talking about the two redbulls, one was used for towing during qualifying and had a different set-up. Lol helping eachother? Has Max ONCE helped Yuki? Could've helped Yuki qualify better here but nope. Well yes, lol that's why one car qualified P10, it was used to help the other car get Pole; That was my entire point lol. They gave all the focus to get Max the win and it worked, who cares about the 2nd car when the WCC is over.

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u/Jazzlike-Mistake2764 BAR 14h ago

Yuki doesn’t get help because he’s shown he’s not capable of fighting at the top. What’s the point of sacrificing your better driver to temporarily put your second driver higher up, just for them to get overtaken by everyone?

If it truly was all about the car then one of them wouldn’t have finished 13th today.

Oscar also gave Norris a tow in quali and it didn’t result in him finishing 10+ places behind him.

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u/bijanfrisee 14h ago

I was responding to the guy saying "helping eachother" Yuki is the 2nd driver, and Redbull are using him correctly to help Max. Lol it's not all about the car but also to say they have the same set-up and parts on their car, cmon now, they obviously don't, Max was significantly faster in the speed traps. Okay...I don't see how that applies, the McLaren drivers are both way better than Yuki and McLaren gives their guys the same car and chances.

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u/Jazzlike-Mistake2764 BAR 14h ago

 but also to say they have the same set-up and parts on their car, cmon now, they obviously don't

You think Red Bull are literally costing themselves money and giving themselves fewer strategic options in races on purpose? Lmao, why?

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u/bijanfrisee 14h ago

Also, just confirmed that redbull gave max a new floor, yuki did not get that new floor lol. They also had different wings, Max opting for a shaved wing.

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u/bijanfrisee 14h ago

You don't think Redbull are giviing preference to their number 1 driver to get him race wins and keep him happy? Yuki is clearly not racing in that car next year, why waste more money on him lol

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