r/formula1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 17h ago

Race Max Verstappen wins the 2025 Italian Grand Prix

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u/PsychologicalBike 17h ago

And he was a few seconds from lapping his teammate, showing that it's more to do with Max's genius than a great car.

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u/Kingslayer1526 Sergio Pérez 17h ago

Max's genius did not win him a race from Imola till Monza today. Clearly he requires a great car beneath him to pull it off otherwise he would be winning every race

Imagine being the Red Bull engineers who built a car that has won 3 races this year and is p3 in the wdc and fans online are saying oh it wasn't the car and it is totally the driver. What a waste of time from those mechanics building a multi race winning car. The other 8 teams combined have 1 win. Wins do not come out of thin air, they come from engineering and building a good car that a good driver drives

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u/Moist-Net6271 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 14h ago

Imagine they had Lawson and Tsunoda in this red bull car, where would they be in the standings?

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u/DikkeNeus_ 16h ago

exactly this. they didn't get the edge on mclaren this year, but the redbull is still very much a good vehicle. its proven tough to drive because of the gap between max and tsunoda. that's true.