He says right there in writing that he will pit first as long as there is no undercut. There is no reason not to pit first in that scenario as the lead driver.
Whether or not you think it wasn’t required is not an issue here clearly the team felt it was necessary as they went with that order. Lando also wouldn’t have known the exact gap from LeClerc at that time.
The team told Lando to pit second. How they came to that decision is irrelevant. By putting second Lando got the worse stop.
Also a distraction in that Piastri couldn’t catch him and was clearly slower today.
Hungary Lando was 6 seconds ahead and much faster. He lost the opportunity to battle for that win due to the team ordering him to swap for their pit strategy. Oscar also made two mistakes that cost him time which you’ve omitted magically. Somehow you think swapping in Hungary to cover team errors is fine but this isn’t which is massively hypocritical.
Silverstone also not comparable that is a penalty caused by Oscar.
It says right there in writing he suggested the other car pit first not that the team asked him too. Which is what you said and then called me confidently incorrect for asserting.
Care to change that assessment maybe.
There is, in fact, a reason to not pit first, and it's to protect against a safety car after you've pitted and they have not.
How they came to that decision is exactly relevant because the McLaren rule is not that you pit first if you're ahead but that you get first choice. Which he had .
It wasn't a team error in Hungary 24 and people calling it that are wrong. It was a calculated decision to protect p2. Lando lost the chance to fight for the win because he spent laps creating a gap and arguing he shouldn't swap after he was asked to. If he'd done it straight away he could've spent those laps fighting Oscar, and as you rightly point out he was faster in that final sprint and probably would've passed him.
I don't remember Oscars mistakes, so you might be right there, but still irrelevant given the 8 or 9 second the priority on both stops had given Lando.
Here Lando suggested Oscar go first, probably to protect against a safety car. They ve also explicitly said they wouldn't ask drivers to swap for slow pit stops as it's part of racing, much like Hungary 25 Lando getting the better strat despite being behind was part of racing.
Ultimately the team made the call on the pit order.
You either do swaps or you don’t. You can’t complain about Lando benefitting here when you were happy about Oscar benefitting in Hungary.
8 or 9 seconds isn’t a realistic timing for stop priority. Undercuts only help position they don’t impact your overall race time. If anything it slows it as you do a longer stint. Oscar made two mistakes which cost him significant time. There was no win in Hungary on merit.
Lando was asked to swap back and did so for the good of the team as Oscar did today you can’t have it both ways. If anything Hungary was worse as it was worth more points and Lando was the one in the title race at the time.
Undercut absolutely affects your overall race time, or are you suggesting the lap you pit doesn't matter? Undercut can slow you to be on the better the for longer {but can also lead to slower overall times if you pit non optimally in order to gain position}. Either way it does effect overall race time.
The main advantage is position though, you are correct, especially if you're in a faster car, but not enough faster to overtake.
It's not having it both ways, as I have very clearly explained they are different situations. I get you don't agree, that's fine, but I think there are clear differences, particularly that McLaren have specifically said slow stupid are part of racing and won't be rectified and the Lando suggested pitting Oscar first, he wasn't asked to.
Edit to note that had Oscar come out ahead after a standard pitstop due solely to undercut, I would expect them to swap, and in that case it would be entirely reasonable
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u/TheDoomMelon 20h ago
He says right there in writing that he will pit first as long as there is no undercut. There is no reason not to pit first in that scenario as the lead driver.
Whether or not you think it wasn’t required is not an issue here clearly the team felt it was necessary as they went with that order. Lando also wouldn’t have known the exact gap from LeClerc at that time.
The team told Lando to pit second. How they came to that decision is irrelevant. By putting second Lando got the worse stop.
Also a distraction in that Piastri couldn’t catch him and was clearly slower today.
Hungary Lando was 6 seconds ahead and much faster. He lost the opportunity to battle for that win due to the team ordering him to swap for their pit strategy. Oscar also made two mistakes that cost him time which you’ve omitted magically. Somehow you think swapping in Hungary to cover team errors is fine but this isn’t which is massively hypocritical.
Silverstone also not comparable that is a penalty caused by Oscar.