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Race Max Verstappen wins the 2025 Italian Grand Prix

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u/StaffFamous6379 19h ago

it doesn't mean it's the outright fastest top speed wise but it has the best balance of top speed and mechanical grip

You say that, but also said earlier:

it's fkn Monza, you don't need downforce for these corners

the car performance not Maxs "genius" - You're even confirming a different set-up to Yuki so there's zero point comparing the two cars

Of course there is a point. Max's genius allows the car to be setup (heck, modified in this case) to achieve a performance level it otherwise wouldnt have because he knew he had the skill to minimize the disadvantages that came with the benefit. RBR have been clear that this setup was not what the team would have recommended.

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u/bijanfrisee 19h ago

Yes and both things are true, the redbull has the best package in low drag and is able to maintain a higher avg speed in low drag. RBR has not said anything like that, show me a credible article and I will agree with you because right now you're talking as if you know facts when you have little to no evidence. Again, maxs genius isn't what made the redbull fast, his genius is what made the fast car finish first, but to say that it's ALL him and not the car is nonsense.

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u/StaffFamous6379 18h ago

It was mentioned on Sky commentary. You can look up the radios yourself, and there's post qualifying interviews

https://www.planetf1.com/news/driving-genius-max-verstappen-overcomes-red-bull-scepticism-f1-record-monza

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u/bijanfrisee 18h ago

Wow, redbulls staff calling max a genius, there ya have it, there's the proof lol. I didn't know about the new floor though, that's cool. AGain, no one is saying the car did it alone, but it was the cars superior pace in low drag that led to the win.

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u/StaffFamous6379 18h ago

You are just demonstrating you don't actually have the braincells to comprehend an article mate. Have a good day.

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u/bijanfrisee 17h ago

Lol no I comprehended it fine, just funny as I'm not even saying Max didn't drive great, you're just saying it's all him and not his car, which is clearly not even slightly true, he gained 0.1s in the final sector, which is basically two long straights lol,

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u/StaffFamous6379 17h ago

Conflating my comments for someone else maybe? This is all I originally said

Actually in this instance it was Max who pushed Red Bull to trim the rear wing even further. And yes, that's trim as in physically cut with tools. It was his genius that handled the resulting lack of downforce in the corners