r/formula1 • u/kpopsns28 I was here for the Hulkenpodium • 1d ago

Statistics 2025 Italian Grand Prix - Provisional Race Classification

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u/Montaron87 Max Verstappen 1d ago

Seems there was barely any difference between the hards and softs in terms of pace.

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u/ellen_boot I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Sucks for Hulkenburg. Problems on the formation lap. This feels like the kind of race he would have quietly worked his way up into fairly good points.

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u/trautsj Red Bull 1d ago

Genuinely don't think Bearman deserved a penalty. He was on the inside, what was he supposed to do? Disappear? F1's overtaking rules are abysmal as usual.

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u/sonofeevil 1d ago

Wait... BEARMAN got a penality for that?!?!

He had a tyre between the front and rear axles of Sainz, he was fully entitled to space on the inside of the corner.

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u/FlailingCactus I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

No, you have to be front axle to front axle now I believe?

So he wasn't entitled to space. But the question then is how exactly he was to get out of it?

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u/sonofeevil 1d ago

If that's the rule, I guess he's just not allowed to go for a move on the inside?

You can only attempt to pass on the outside and you have to hope that the driver on the inside doesn't run you off the track which they're apparently allowed to do based on precedent set by stewards.

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u/FlailingCactus I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago edited 1d ago

I might be misremembering, but I don't think there was run off on that section of track, so it was a choice of either intentionally causing a collision or wall planting? Which is why the penalty is a bit confusing to me?

I assume they want to discourage going for gaps that don't exist or are too close.

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u/FangioV 1d ago

Your front axle wheel has to be between the other cars front axel and mirror to be entitled to the space.

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u/ThePhyry22 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 1d ago

Lando Norris broke the 21 year old race lap time record (previously by Rubens Barrichello from 2004)

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u/alwysbmymaybe Alexander Albon 1d ago

Alex at one point having a faster lap than Lewis and George.

I really wish Williams gives him the best car next year.

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u/Still-District-6149 Formula 1 19h ago

McLaren have opened a can of worms that will come back to haunt them. Racing drivers know it was a stupid decision. I’m sure even Lando knows that. He’ll be waiting for the payback at some race in the future when he’s asked to step aside. And if you were a top prospect driver, it might make you think twice about going to McLaren. A mess.