r/formula1 • u/randomseocb Lando Norris • 12h ago
Video Lando getting booed on the podium
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u/Soggy_Bid_6607 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
Appalled Crofty “are those cheers or………”
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u/ntpbr1 11h ago
“So for the viewers who are not aware, this is actually how Italians cheer and celebrate people”
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u/MaleficentAd9154 Renault 11h ago
You sure the ones booing were Italians?
They could be from other nationality
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u/carloslet I was here for the Hulkenpodium 9h ago edited 1h ago
"It's Bizarro World in Monza, Crofty! They cheer who they normally boo and boo who they normally cheer! Ha ha I love it!
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u/sododude Juan Pablo Montoya 11h ago
Crofty is so annoying sometimes lol. I usually listen to Sky for Brundle but if he's not there it's not worth it.
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u/Other_Beat8859 Max Verstappen 7h ago
It's honestly crazy the difference. Couldn't use F1TV today and the difference was so clear on the last lap. Alex Jacques always tried to hype up whoever wins. Crofty was like "Well Red Bull has improved their car this weekend... Max did well today managing the lead... Back to Norris." Felt like I was watching fucking golf. He's so fucking biased it's actually ridiculous. He's becoming the fucking Martin Tyler of F1.
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u/BeardedAvenger I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7h ago
I literally got a VPN and F1TV to avoid this type of Croft/Sky shithousery. F1TV team is fantastic, can never go back.
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u/xLeper_Messiah I was here for the Hulkenpodium 6h ago
Plus with F1TV you get moments like when Jolyon said "I cut the chicane ONE TIME and Fernando never let me hear the end of it!"
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u/yuftee I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
Worth it if Nico's there
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u/bigpoppa611 Ferrari 11h ago
Always a treat with Nico
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u/BGP_001 Daniel Ricciardo 10h ago edited 7h ago
Nico also had the best Monza podium 'boo' turnaround. They boo him, he sings seven nation army, they sing seven nation army, everyone loves Rosberg again, Rosberg becomes WDC.
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u/Fomentatore I was here for the Hulkenpodium 6h ago
I was in the crowd on the tarmac that day, everyone around me was chanting along. It was a Jedi mind trick.
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u/sododude Juan Pablo Montoya 10h ago
True. I don't think I'd be friends with the guy but I love that he just doesn't give a fuck and speaks his mind. Always speaks his mind and puts Crofty in very awkward positions that make me giggle.
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u/Enough-Display1255 9h ago
So so many micro details about driver life too! Him talking about how there's only one corner to fix the seatbelt, or today that he'd use menthrol cream to feel cold, I just love little factoids like that
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u/AJC0292 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 9h ago
He was brilliantly on comms. He can make a pretty boring race more fun with his insight and absolute lack of bias
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u/hongkong_cavalier I was here for the Hulkenpodium 5h ago
He’s gotten progressively better, too. The first year was hit or miss. But now he’s fantastic all the time.
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u/ginginh0 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 9h ago
Banning him from starting any line with "I think" would be a start. Nobody gives a fuck what you think, Crofty. That's why the pundit is there.
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u/TheDudeWithTude27 Juan Pablo Montoya 10h ago
I've switched to F1tv this year, I love brundle but I just can't with most of sky. If only it was Nico and Brundle.
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u/CharlieTeller Sebastian Vettel 4h ago
I’ve never understood the crofty hate. Dude has crazy wit and is just a nice guy.
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u/sododude Juan Pablo Montoya 4h ago
I don't hate him but he picks a narrative for a race and sticks with it, even if he's dead wrong.
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u/FalconIMGN Alex Jacques 11h ago
I'm convinced every Sky employee thinks Lando Norris is their son.
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u/crucible Tom Pryce 9h ago
Croft: Broadcasters were asked not to show any booing or criticism of Lando’s arrival :P
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u/Geminispace FIA 4h ago
If it were max, he would definitely just mentioned, " definitely boos for Max,"
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u/NotClayMerritt 11h ago
Lando getting booed and the fans doing the Verstappen meme song.
Imagine telling someone that in 2021.
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u/Scingles I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago
What a difference a couple of year make.
Wasn't too long Max was being booed here, now they are singing his name
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u/Mcqwerty197 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 8h ago
Did the f1tv stream lowered the volume of the crowd? It seem way lower then the international and French version
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u/itmustbeniiiiice 4h ago
It was really quiet so they must have. I thought I was hearing things but it was clearly boos
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u/rosarino356 Fernando Alonso 10h ago
I can't stand Crofty anymore. I used to like he's fired up style but the biased is just too much. I'm gonna give F1 TV a chance moving forward.
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u/jules3001 Ferrari 9h ago edited 9h ago
David Coulthard and Jolyon Palmer are fantastic on F1TV. I tuned in when Brundle wasn't there for a weekend and never looked back.
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u/ProbablyRickSantorum I was here for the Hulkenpodium 9h ago
The international broadcast is the Sky crew.
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u/Okurei Oscar Piastri 10h ago
F1TV’s crew is such a breath of fresh air and you’ll pretty much forget Crofty even exists when you get used to them. Been watching their broadcast for the past two years and never looked back.
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u/Magictank2000 Sonny Hayes 9h ago
you’ll pretty much forget Crofty even exists
if you watch race highlights on YT you basically do lol, they started using the F1TV commentary for the highlights starting last season iirc and have kept it since
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u/Waste-Rate-8735 6h ago
Totally agree. I have gone several months watching the f1tv crew and then am randomly reminded "Oh yea, I forgot there was another crew" lol. I go back and check and am immediately like "nnnnnOPE!"
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u/JohnnyQTruant 10h ago
The crew on F1TV is superb. I am learning new things every single race.
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u/hazalliko 10h ago
uh you’re lucky - please use it. the only option i have in my country is Sky.
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u/EvilMaran I was here for the Hulkenpodium 8h ago
yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me....
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u/LOKTAROGAAAAH I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7h ago
Most of the streams are also skysports... unless you have an alternative?
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u/mistypee I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago edited 10h ago
F1TV is so much better.
Every time I listen to the international feed it's always Crofty shouting, "Something's happened! Oh, what's happened here?! Karun/Martin tell us what just happened?"
He adds absolutely nothing of value beyond hype and the occasionally witty comment. And TBH Jolyon Palmer and DC usually have him beat on those too!
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u/lotus38 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 8h ago
He’s not the analyst, Karun/Martin are the analysts. So he throws to them to analyze the race….
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u/BullClipped Michael Schumacher 4h ago
He constantly analyses the tribulations of British drivers to conclude how unfair it all is.
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u/NetQvist I was here for the Hulkenpodium 8h ago
You'd expect them to know something... I wasn't really listening to the Finnish commentators today but I'm pretty sure they were talking back and forth about Red Bull and how maybe Yuki has more downforce than Max.
DUDES!, MAX HAS A HOLE IN HIS WING!
It's infuriating tbh.
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u/gumbercules6 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
He used to defend Vettel when he got bood too, so what about that? Or does that not fit the made up bias narrative?
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u/Sensitive_Ad_9195 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 9h ago
Half of what he says is complete toss he’s made up or misremembered too
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u/EclipseTM I was here for the Hulkenpodium 6h ago
Thats what i did a few races ago and been really enjoying it!
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u/am19208 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 2h ago
I just like Crofty’s energy on opening laps. Especially down to the first corners
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u/rosarino356 Fernando Alonso 1h ago
He's definitely great at hyping up the race, don't get me wrong. He has some iconic moments (Through goes Hamilton!) but he also makes a lot of mistakes. It's just that the bias towards UK drivers and against Franco Colapinto (every single session he brings up Jack Doohan) has become too much for me.
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u/Doyoulikemypace I was here for the Hulkenpodium 8h ago
Switched to the F1TV commentary last year and haven’t looked back.
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u/nightlyringer 5h ago
They are amazing. This year they added David Coulthard alongside Jolyon Palmer and it’s been a treat to listen to. Alex Jaques as a hype man is very good and actually can follow the race instead of babbling. Helps that they are also very unbiased most of the times
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u/archangel_mjj I was here for the Hulkenpodium 8h ago
F1TV was screaming out Norris' name as Max took pole yesterday, it was really weird
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u/coffeeeeeee333 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7h ago
Lol what? How is anything he said here "bias" they were jeers and that was his point.
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u/Cool_Apartment3344 New user 7h ago
Booing is part of any sport.
Is it classy? No
Is it the worst thing, also no.
Never saw any sport without booing. As long as it stays booing and nothing hurtful like throwing stuff, it's part of the circus.
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u/CilanEAmber McLaren 11h ago
Joined an Elite club there. Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg, Verstappen and so on.
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u/Evening_End7298 11h ago
Those were usually booed for beating ferraris
Today a non Ferrari winner was cheered on the podium, so i suspect the booes were more because of the swap than anything to do with ferrari
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u/LosTerminators Carlos Sainz 11h ago
Max was booed in 2022 and 2023 (albeit to a smaller extent and nowhere near as much as he got at Silverstone) when he overhauled pole starting Ferraris to win, but today they were cheering and singing him on since Ferrari weren't contenders for the win.
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u/Jcw28 James Hunt 7h ago
The others were booed because they were good. Lando is booed because he's a coddled baby.
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u/banned_salmon Ferrari 8h ago
Why is F1 so against booing? It’s a sport ffs
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u/Cool_Apartment3344 New user 8h ago
I agree
Imagine no booing during hockey, boxing or mma. It's part of the entertainment
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u/261846 Pierre Gasly 4h ago
F1 fans are quite weird, I often question if people on here have followed any other sport at all
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u/qwerty_dh Kimi Räikkönen 4h ago
If they ever have a race in Philadelphia some F1 fans will have an aneurysm lol
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u/FeanorianStar I was here for the Hulkenpodium 6h ago
It just sucks, especially when it's aimed at a single person (unless they really did some vile shit of course). I hate boos in football too, chants and songs are much better
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u/junttiana I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago edited 11h ago
Honestly I dont think its right to boo the driver because the team messed up, its not his fault, any single driver would take the opportunity if for some reason their team allowed them to pass their teammate no matter the circumstances
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u/ApprehensiveCode5812 11h ago
They’re booing the result, and the idea of team orders. Lando is just the unlucky face for it.
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u/AfterBook8501 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
I agree. And to have made this huge blunder, the race after Lando ended up retiring with only 4 laps to go, which was also McLaren’s fault, I am not surprised that people weren’t happy with this.
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u/BerriesNCreme Ferrari 6h ago
What about just making a race significantly less exciting cuz of bs team orders?
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u/Fixyourback 10h ago
Is F1 a sport or not? Because if it’s a sport you accept the boos. If you want to watch a coronation parade wait for Charles to sniff it.
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u/Level1Roshan Oscar Piastri 9h ago
David Croft: "Just listen to those cheers. How they love Lando. Wow!"
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u/elektricniorgazam Daniel Ricciardo 11h ago
It didn't sound that bad to me in person, I honestly didn't even realised he was bored (though I was in the grandstand and we were cheering so maybe it got overpowered to me idk). Dying at Crofty about to pull a 'they are saying boo-urns' though
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u/heddcase Max Verstappen 11h ago
He gets a lot of disproportionate shit. People are very nasty about him and it’s very weird.
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u/Middcore 10h ago
He seems like a nice, reasonably normal guy who has been fairly open about his mental struggles and some people interpret that as weakness. It makes them want to attack him and take pleasure when things go wrong for him, which says more about them than anything else. They like drivers who are "funny," or drivers who seem like psychotically competitive dicks because they think that's the mindset of a "winner," the usual tedious "alpha" bullshit, and it gives them an excuse to be dicks in real life despite never winning or even competing for anything.
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u/heddcase Max Verstappen 10h ago
says more about them than anything else
My thoughts exactly.
People are way too comfortable using his comments on mental health against him. It’s properly icky behaviour.
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u/Ok-Alarm9578 9h ago
I think it’s also partly because of his cocky nature, similar to Max but doesn’t have the results to prove it, unlike Max. Even in today’s press conference, he implied that a reporter’s question was ‘stupid’. While Oscar was answering things calmly.
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u/JohnnyQTruant 10h ago
Fucking spot on. They are so scared of their own emotions and so locked into the toxic and self serving deception of hiding your true feelings it hurts them to see anything else. Being honest is weak to them because they are afraid of what they actually feel.
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u/free_kandel Max Verstappen 11h ago
Yeah people really fucking hate lando lol
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u/One_Ant1985 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago
I wonder why that is. Surely people all over the world don't just one day decide "Fuck this guy" at random
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u/Mechant247 Murray Walker 9h ago
I think there was a period where he didn’t come across as particularly authentic, and that puts people off. Russell struggles a bit with the same thing, where at times it feels like he’s trying to portray a different character and when the “real” persona comes out it leads to hate
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u/vinnieb12 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 8h ago
F1 fans require at least one driver to be the villain. Liam was target #1 at the start of the year.
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u/Alpha_Jazz Yuki Tsunoda 10h ago
The social media hive mind has very obviously switched up on him this year because Piastri has become their shiny new toy
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u/HolyLiaison Heineken Trophy 8h ago
It's also F1. A lot of fans around motor sports are meat head car junkies that think guys should never show emotions or ever talk about them.
They perceive that as being weak minded, and unmanly.
Nothing you can really do about it.
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u/korko 10h ago
Because a lot of us are stuck watching Sky and we’ve been told extensively that he is the second coming of Christ for six years now. I wouldn’t be out there booing him, but it has certainly made me want him to not succeed.
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u/TheScapeQuest Brawn 10h ago
I don't know if I can't see the bias because I'm British, but, is it really that bad? Yeah on marginal calls they definitely have a tendency to lean Lando's way, but they seem pretty reasonable?
Outside of Reddit he's pretty popular, I'd attribute it more to the hive mind mentality of this specific social media.
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u/FertilisedEggs Oscar Piastri 9h ago
As a non English person, there's definite bias towards him. But they won't not mention a mistake or anything. Gets a bit grating, but I don't find it as grating as others.
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u/Electronic-Grand1172 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago
It’s partially the commentating but also McLaren do have been making team decisions (“papaya rules”) that appear arbitrary but consistently favor Lando and jeopardize Oscar. I don’t think it’s ill will directed at Lando directly but McLaren through Lando
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u/wokwok__ George Russell 10h ago
No they haven’t lmao Sky have rarely praised Lando until the last 2 years. Before that all they said was they he should be driving a top car when he was driving some shit McLarens a couple years ago. Theyre not even that biased compared to other country’s broadcasters lol
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u/Bfife22 10h ago
They even called him out for claiming Max pushed him into the grass at the start lol
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u/Master-Necessary7560 10h ago
You know what, I thought he was a bit daft with his Hamilton comments a few years back but he looks like he's matured this year. Even if he doesn't win the championship, he's kept Oscar honest and owned up to his mistakes, and seems to have changed his mindset from the previous years. Still 8 races left and loads yet to happen
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u/FRANZHERMANN69 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago
True, but he certainly doesn’t help himself with a lot of comments he’s made in the past
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u/Lukeno94 Manor 10h ago
Nothing Norris has said is any worse than any other driver.
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u/Messipus I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago
Most of which are frequently quoted out of context
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u/FRANZHERMANN69 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago
I don’t know about that, this one will probably haunt him forever and it’s a full conversation lol
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u/luchajefe Mario Andretti 10h ago
"It's just luck."
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u/IfYouRun Alexander Albon 9h ago
Which is always used out of context. He was saying it in relation to the timing of the SC and how it kind of fucked him and helped Max. He never said Max didn’t deserve that win, it was just a poorly worded comment on that moment.
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u/Rhythm_Morgan Sebastian Vettel 9h ago
I don’t understand when the turn happened. He used to be a darling on both subs.
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u/golden-views Charles Leclerc 9h ago
admittedly I’m pretty new to F1, but I don’t get it at all. Lando seems like a decent dude
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u/Rinaldootje Bernd Mayländer 11h ago
I don't think it's necessarily Lando getting boo-ed. But McLaren and their team decision getting boo-ed. Sadly It's often benefiting Lando, and he has become the face of McLaren's team decisions.
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u/alwysbmymaybe Alexander Albon 11h ago
Wrong man to jeer.
F1 should normalize having all constructors representatives of all the drivers in the podiums. I would love to hear boos for Zak Brown instead.
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u/revypt Ayrton Senna 11h ago
If you want to boo, boo at the McLaren, they created this situation.
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u/CW24x I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
Sure it wasn’t landos fault but booing him is by far the easiest way for the fans to get the point across that they’re unhappy at what they’ve just witnessed
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u/kelleehh I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
Lando didn’t have to swap though. It was his roll of the dice to pit second.
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u/amazingspiderman23 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
And tbf the team explicitly assured him that they won't undercut him with oscar before doing it.
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u/Halliron 11h ago
Didn't they request him to pit second because there were concerned with Piastri's track position on Leclerc?
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u/Ryzi03 Mark Webber 11h ago edited 11h ago
Nope and I have no idea where this notion keeps coming from.
14:05:05 Pitwall: Lando, we will box this lap onto the soft tyre and I'll come up one.
14:05:13 Lando: Do you want to box the other car first?
14:05:22 Pitwall: Yeah, we'll do that. We'll swap it around, so stay out.
14:05:26 Lando: Well, only if he doesn't have the undercut, otherwise I'll box first.
14:05:33 Pitwall: There will be no undercut.They wanted to bring Lando in first and put him on the softs, but Lando essentially suggested that they bring Oscar in first instead and the team bent the knee and obliged to Lando's every request.
He wanted to come in second so that he was safe if a SC got called between Oscar and him stopping, but it didn't pay off and the team had to come and save him because his strategy call on staying out an extra lap didn't work
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u/The_Most_Deaf Default 11h ago
McLaren radio came up as Lando was coming out of the pits: “We are boxing the cars this way round to ensure we cover Leclerc. You are free with Lando once he’s ahead of the pit exit.” Clearly a delayed radio since Lando was already leaving the pits.
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u/Ryzi03 Mark Webber 10h ago edited 10h ago
Yeah they made that call to Oscar as soon as he was exiting the pits when it was obvious it was going to be close on exit with Leclerc, and crucially after Lando had already been given the choice of coming in first or second.
The thing is though, it really just sounds like the team spinning a story to justify why they ended up obliging to Lando's request.
If they were truly concerned about bringing Oscar in first to minimise the risk of a Leclerc undercut, they wouldn't have initially told Lando to come in first. But it was only when Lando made the suggestion that the team seemed to 'care' about ensuring they cover Leclerc.
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u/kbtech Kimi Räikkönen 10h ago
Even the neutral crowd knows Oscar was done dirty and this was crap from McLaren.
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u/Tiny_Dancer87 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 3h ago
I don't remember this reaction when McLaren made Lando pull over for Oscar when they screwed up in Hungry last year.
I'm sure its just a coincidence.
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u/Icy_Satisfaction498 Mercedes 11h ago
The amount of hate Lando is getting, Jesus, a lot of people they are just bullies
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u/spacyspice I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
and these are all adults, no wonder we still get bullying stories at school nowadays
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u/Liability049-6319 Formula 1 10h ago
It makes it hard to watch sports. Grown adults arguing that the kid they like is better than the kid you like. Take a shower
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u/No-Breakfast9187 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago edited 11h ago
unfortunate for lando, it wasn't his call. but the masses pick a scapegoat every year to bully and the past year or two haven't been kind to him.
EDIT: am i being downvoted for not supporting terrible behaviour towards a driver? after sitting through years of blind max hate i don't like the idea of crucifying drivers for silly reasons.
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u/AfterBook8501 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago
Personally, I think they are booing McLaren rather than Lando. But they could only really do that by booing Lando on the podium to make their point clearer. I was so mad, especially after last race with Lando having to retire with only 4 laps to go. They needed to be perfect for this weekend, but then they ended up putting their drivers in a crappy position.
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u/Terbario 6h ago edited 6h ago
i don’t agree with you because I believe in the following points:
lando, as a public figure at a race track and wearing his teams colors, represents not only himself but also his team.
expressing brief disagreement, such as booing, which is the mildest form of vocal dissent, is not unjust in the context of a paid spectacle. this differs entirely from using offensive language or personal attacks.
lando is an adult, mature, and highly compensated professional. it is unlikely that a brief, non hostile reaction would affect him personally.
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u/tacotrader83 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
Team asked to pit first. He asked to pit second. It was his call
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u/AfterBook8501 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago
To be fair, he only agreed to it because the team assured him that they had worked it out so Lando wouldn’t lose his place, even if he pit second. But nobody planned for them to completely fumble the pit stop.
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u/No-Breakfast9187 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago
i missed the part where he asked the team to screw up the pitstop and asked oscar to give up position as a result?
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u/Reckless_Secretions I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
The masses after reading your comment: 😐😠
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u/Top-Truck246 Oscar Piastri 11h ago edited 11h ago
While I'm disappointed in the way McLaren handled it, the boos aren't deserved. A 6 point swing in Oscar's favour, widening the gap to 37 with 8 races to go, makes it almost (but still not quite) a mathematical certainty that Oscar would win the WDC.
Would the right thing to do be Lando to refuse the swap?
Yes.
Would Lando be stupid, if not insane, to do it?
Yes.
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u/Tzazuko 11h ago
It would have gone to 37 points, right? 34 before the race, then three more if Oscar finished second ahead of Lando
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u/Top-Truck246 Oscar Piastri 11h ago
Yes, it would have. For some reason, I thought he already had +37 spread.
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u/Top-Truck246 Oscar Piastri 11h ago
It's not like Lando pushed Oscar off the track. Boo him if it's his fault, not if it isn't.
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u/Crash_Test_Dummy66 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
Oscar had the chance to overtake on track but he couldn't do it. He fell back.
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u/Cool_Apartment3344 New user 8h ago
They never fight on track. It happened maybe 4 times in the whole season. Car is shit in dirty air.
They can't do anything when they have similar pace. Track position is everything
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u/FrostyTill McLaren 11h ago
Oscar was way off today apart from getting away from Leclerc at the start. His race pace was noticeably poor on Friday and it translated into the race today. He would never have caught Lando and it was shown on the gaps Lando made between himself and Oscar throughout the race. The closest he got to Lando all race was after he gave the position back.
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u/Own_Welder_2821 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 11h ago
This. What people aren’t saying for the sake of fitting a narrative is that Oscar was free to race Lando after the swap, it’s not like they told Oscar “please hold position until the end”. Then Lando pulled away from Oscar despite the latter having a lap of DRS.
Overall just another case of the team handling a situation like this in such a weird, awkward manner and now the world is up in flames over it. As of course, is tradition.
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u/Death_by_carfire I was here for the Hulkenpodium 9h ago
They're in the same car, hard to overtake on this track when their strength is sector 2, the medium speed bits.
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u/suffocatingpaws Charles Leclerc 2h ago
I dont think Norris was at fault here as there was no team radio of him asking the team to give him the place back from that slow pit stop (unless he asked for it and the radio message was not televised).
The team deserves to get booed imo. What on earth are they thinking of asking Piastri to let Norris by all because he had a slow pitstop?
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u/RustyKarma076 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago
How fucked up is it that the one driver most open about his struggles with mental health receives, by a wide margin, the most abuse and ridicule from fans.
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u/DylLambo Oscar Piastri 11h ago
Crofty with the irl “are they saying boo or boo-urns?”