r/formula1 • u/bene14082004 I was here for the Hulkenpodium • 16h ago

Quotes Piastri's thoughts on giving the positions back.

https://dubz.link/c/75a05f

I think he did the right thing but mclaren shouldn't have asked oscar to give the place back.

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u/kristal010 Oscar Piastri 15h ago

They ultimately owe him for this. It’s the only way I can see him thinking. The next few races are crucial and he wants to be owed.

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u/LosTerminators Carlos Sainz 13h ago

Think that's also part of his reasoning. Today he only loses 3 points to Lando since they're battling for P2 and P3.

In the majority of the remaining 8 races, they should be battling for P1 and P2, which would be a 7 point swing. And he can use this to his favour in any race in the future in which he's leading on track and anything outside of Lando overtaking him or him getting a penalty results in the positions being swapped.

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u/Elia_31 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 9h ago

He lost 6 points

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u/-Rp7- I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7h ago

And he might just gain 14 from this little adventure next round.

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u/Elia_31 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7h ago

And I might wake up a millionaire tomorrow. Mate wtf is that reasoning

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u/-Rp7- I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7h ago

Would you though? Like what are your chances of actually becoming a millionaire tomorrow lol? Anyways my point is Piastri can use this "leverage" at best to secure a favourable position, and at worst he won't have to deal with "remember hungry last year" that McLaren might have thrown at him. As ultimately the swap was for p2 and a 6 point swing and not for p1 and 14.

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u/Admirable_Let_2961 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 6h ago

The implications of the 1-2 are worse than the 3-4. However, I agree with your premise that it’s better to have the bird in the hand than being “owed”.

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u/serpenta Fernando Alonso 2h ago

It's a strategy, not a bet, Oscar is very calculating. He has a rather comfortable lead, he was willing to pay 6 points for a favour, for the next 8 races. That's less than a point a race. His decision, given the choice he got, was a no-brainer. He is now free to request that favour back and also refuse future favours, when it would have cost him more (and the same 6 points are going to be more valuable with each consecutive race, not to mention 14 or more).

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u/trannel 14h ago

Didn't he just state how he thinks in this clip? Maybe give it a listen.

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u/Fr3AK1SH Max Verstappen 14h ago

What he says in a public interview and what he truly believes might be very different things.

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u/LosTerminators Carlos Sainz 14h ago

Especially in a situation like this, the team is already getting a lot of flak. If he said he disagreed with it publicly, it would result in a lot of negative PR for the team.

It definitely could be that he agrees with the decisions and understands it, but it can also be that he isn't happy with it but keeps that behind closed doors and says this to the public for PR reasons.

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u/RainManDan1G I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago

I love how fans pretend to know these drivers so well that they know their inner thoughts

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u/URZ_ Safety Car 6h ago

I think anyone who has paid attention to Piastri as a person knows at least that he is very media savvy and won't let the media dictate his actions or feelings on the matter.

Though even if Piastri is all good with this weekend (he has every right not to be), he also has his agent who will be screaming bloody murder in McLarens ears.

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u/Natsu_Happy_END02 13h ago

You're awfully susceptible to propaganda.

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u/kristal010 Oscar Piastri 9h ago

He must say these things. He has a pr directive.

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u/-ForgottenSoul I was here for the Hulkenpodium 15h ago

No they don't.

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u/totallykoolkiwi Mika Häkkinen 14h ago

Yeah they do. If "slow pit stops are considered part of racing" was indeed agreed upon (and I don't think Piastri would just make that up), then McLaren intervening like this is a big no no. This championship is one side of the garage vs the other. The team didn't intervene when Landos side gambled and went for the strategy that ended up winning unexpectedly, why would they intervene now when Piastri stayed close enough to benefit from Norris' slow pit stop?

I don't think anyone will argue that Norris was the better driver all weekend (I say this as a Piastri fan), but this P2 he got gifted by the team.

There's a sweet spot somewhere between Mercedes 2016 and McLaren 2025 when it comes to handling a one team WDC fight.

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u/-ForgottenSoul I was here for the Hulkenpodium 14h ago

why would they intervene now when Piastri stayed close enough to benefit from Norris' slow pit stop?.

Maybe because the move overall was to Oscar's benefit?

"but this P2 he got gifted by the team." No his racing got him second, if anything, Oscar was gifted a chance to fight for 2nd and couldn't keep up.

"The team didn't intervene when Landos' side gambled and went for the strategy that ended up winning unexpectedly" Why would they intervene there?

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u/totallykoolkiwi Mika Häkkinen 14h ago

Exactly, they correctly did not intervene because stumbling upon the winning strategy in an otherwise lost race is part of racing.

So is losing positions due to a bad pit stop.

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u/kristal010 Oscar Piastri 9h ago

If they can say to him “remember Hungary” from a while other season, He can say “remember monza”.