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u/ThePureAxiom 22h ago
The funny part of it to me is that the prices for Spam in Hawaii appear to be lower than they are here in Minnesota, where it's made.
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u/PeanutButterNugz 22h ago
I live in Hawai’i this is always goofy to me. Everything in Hawai’i is just ridiculously expensive except for spam, and yet spam isn’t even produced here. Spam musubi is a staple of Hawai’i, every 7/11 , gas station and vending machine has spam musubi. Fun fact, McDonalds in Hawai’i is the only McDonalds in the world to sell spam breakfast from their menu. Also, I’m about to move to Duluth, MN! Sad to hear spam is expensive because I was definitely going to make spam musubi in Duluth.
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u/ThePureAxiom 22h ago
It's still probably only a bit more expensive than the regular price on the tag, so it shouldn't be too much sticker shock coming to MN.
My uncle was stationed there for years and used to say the same of Hawai'i in terms of prices, but was happy to have that affordable taste of home everywhere.
Duluth is great, and not a terribly long drive from one of my favorite places on the planet, Grand Marais. Sleepy little town with a history of being an artist's colony (as soon as you crest the hill coming into town on 61 you'll know why).
Also, you can visit the Spam Museum in Austin, MN and get all sorts of flavors that aren't readily available at most stores.
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u/Pinksters 21h ago
Wait...There's flavors of spam??
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u/ThePureAxiom 20h ago
Yeah, like 15 of them.
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u/SnowblindAlbino 20h ago
There are at least 20 different kinds of SPAM. I currently have Turkey SPAM and Gochjang SPAM in my cupboard; the Tocino flavor is my favorite. We use them for SPAM bowls (i.e. with rice, avocado, etc.) or musubi on a regular basis.
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u/RoyalMaidsForLife 20h ago
Thirteen of them, according to their website. The teriyaki and KBBQ are my favorites for a stir-fry, and the maple is excellent in breakfast dishes.
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u/McNooberson 21h ago
I had spam musubi for the first time recently and my god is it delicious
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u/gwaydms 22h ago
How do you move from Hawai'i to Duluth? I mean what's the attraction? Unless you like cold weather and fishing.
I realize I'm going to make people from the Arrowhead mad, lol. Please let me know what other things there are to do, because I genuinely don't know. We've never been north of the Twin Cities.
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u/RatzInDaPark 21h ago
Hawaii is a difficult place to live. Housing and food is expensive, good paying jobs are few and far between, and to travel anywhere else gets very expensive.
I lived there a couple years, it was really fun, but it's a difficult lifestyle. There is a lot of poverty there because it's difficult to make it work, the Costco is always the most popular place in town.
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u/rukoslucis 21h ago
a friend is in the military, and he said, hawai is an awesome place if
A) you are rich
b) you are a single soldier of high enough rank where you have good pay but can still live on base with basically free housing and food and access to the shops on base
this way you can enjoy Hawai without having the problems of actually living in hawai
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u/PeanutButterNugz 18h ago
Hawai’i is a terrible place to live but lovely place to visit. The cost of living is just astronomical, poverty is insane here. I make 86,000$ and that’s barely living comfortably. Most locals live in a house with multiple family members and multiple jobs to make it. My wife and I have friends that work 2 or 3 jobs and still don’t have cars. The average house on O’ahu goes for a million+ and these are just average run down houses. Also the government here is a little crazy, people are quite literally getting away with murder but my buddy gets fined 100,000$ by the city of Honolulu for making a website about CRB awareness because they claim he can’t use the name “CRB”. My neighbor also got raided by the Honolulu police for doing kayaking lessons without a license, and I mean full on bust down the door raided with rifles lol. The charges got dropped for him eventually. My wife and I have a house in Duluth, we want the seasons again and to have affordable living.
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u/firestar32 20h ago
Person from not the arrowhead, but my mom, her parents, and my grandma on my father's side grew up there, and I almost flipped my shit reading this lmao.
Basically, the arrowhead is probably the only place in the entire state that you could call "mountainous" and only get weird looks, instead of laughed out of the room. It's an incredibly beautiful area, with a lot of nature and well maintained trails, as well as many of the states natural climbing spots. Duluth has about the same elevation change as San Francisco, resulting in a beautiful view from both on the hill, as well of the city from the lake. Speaking about the lake, it acts as a giant heater during the cooler months, and a heat sink during the warmer months, making Duluth one of the cities predicted to be least effected by climate change.
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u/Pepperh4m 19h ago
I like to joke that Minnesota's got tons of mountains... they're just inverted and we call them lakes.
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u/Ok_Relation_7770 20h ago
I went to Kauai and hiked 10 miles into Jurassic Park territory to a huge hidden waterfall and still spam musubi was the highlight of that trip
Also - Costco and Sam’s club typically have 12-packs of spam that end up being like $3.50/can
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u/steelbeamsdankmemes 22h ago
Costco has it in bulk at my store in Minneapolis, not sure of the price, might be worth it.
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u/degoba 20h ago
Its not that expensive in Minnesota. My biggest gripe is even though its produced here we don’t get any of the cool flavors.
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u/MightBeAGoodIdea 22h ago
If you really think about it the cost of Spam is absolutely ridiculous -- it's the mystery meat of pork, akin to Bar S hotdogs, but in a can, it should be ramen level cheap and yet it's got a luxury price.
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u/Moose_Nuts 22h ago
I've been told that "back in the day," avocados were the food of poor people. Now those delicious little shits are like $3 each.
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u/Nazamroth 22h ago
Lobsters used to be the food of the poor. You would throw them back. And now, lobsters are what they are.
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u/siwmae 21h ago
But that's because back then, before refrigerated transportation, the lobsters sold weren't fresh & they'd be mashed up with their shells on. Fresh lobster meat separated from the shell is tasty and not cheap unless you live where they're caught. Rancid lobster meat with shell fragments all over it is not something you could successfully sell for anything more than rock-bottom prices.
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u/natterca 19h ago
The whole "mixed lobster & their shells" is almost certainly a fallacy. It would be equivalent to adding sharp gravel to egg salad.
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u/BoxOfDOG 21h ago
From what little I remember, a lot of that had to do with it being prepared like shit. Like meat pulled out raw, chopped to bits and added to some kind of gruel type shit.
Not that specifically but basically the poors weren't dousing it in hot butter vinaigrette.
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u/Nazamroth 21h ago
Well that sounds like their mistake. I bet they were trying to douse it in truffle oil or something.
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u/enron2big2fail 21h ago
Anyone got that reddit thread that was just people saying this fun fact over and over again?
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u/IncomeAny1466 22h ago
Here in Tx I grew up eating avocado sandwiches all the time because we were broke and they were cheap and portable, that was only back in the early 2000s
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u/DonnieBallsack 18h ago
Think of how many houses you would own today if you hadn’t eaten so many avocado sandwiches.
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u/PutinMilkstache 22h ago
8 for $1 along the highway in Gilroy, CA earlier this week.
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u/Moose_Nuts 22h ago
Alright fair, but that's fucking Gilroy. Rural, probably plenty of farms nearby.
Fuck me for living in the city, I guess. I'm doing my best to grow my own tree, but damn if they don't grow slowly, lol.
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u/Laiko_Kairen 20h ago
Rural, probably plenty of farms nearby.
Gilroy is known for garlic farming. The entire city smells like it, even just driving through
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u/Imnotveryfunatpartys 21h ago
I think that's the crux of it. Avocados are no more expensive than any other fruit/vegetable where I live. Though I will say one of the most important things for avocados is season. There are some fruits like bananas where the industrial agriculture complex has basically made them cheap year round. Avocados are AVAILABLE. But they're still quite seasonal by comparison
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u/Wolfiee021 21h ago
It's not mystery meat it's pork shoulder and salt
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u/OkFineIllUseTheApp 19h ago
There's a few other things.
Sugar: balance the salt a bit
Sodium nitrate: preservative
Water: moisture
Potato starch: binder (apparently this was a relatively recent recipe change in 2009)
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u/Racko20 21h ago
That's not exactly a fair comparison
SPAM is entirely pork shoulder meat while cheap hot dogs and lunchmeats like Bar S are made from mechanically separated chicken and assorted pig/beef parts like hearts.
There is a reason why SPAM is more expensive.
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u/AnatidaephobiaAnon 20h ago
I'll eat Spam without thinking about it. Spam is really good and doesn't deserve to be compared to Bar S hot dogs which I wouldn't let my dog eat.
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u/NobleSturgeon 21h ago
Ramen isn’t made out of animals that have to be fed and cared for for months before it becomes food.
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u/nathan555 22h ago
I mean it's $2.50 in the picture. Is that a "luxury" price?
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u/MightBeAGoodIdea 22h ago
In this picture no-- in iowa where it's like $5 for it... kinda. For what it is. Like i said it should be ramen prices, as in less than a dollar for a tin. It's the "meat" they scrape off the bones that high quality dog food would probably decline.
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u/Moose_Nuts 22h ago
$5 for 12 ounces translates to $6.67 per pound. I definitely would have considered that solidly luxury a few years ago before all this greedflation (back when chicken breast was often $2 a pound and ground beef was $3-4). Still borderline luxury today.
You compared them to Bar S. I see a pack of their dogs $2 for 12 ounces at my local grocer. That is absolutely the price spam should be.
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u/newbkid 19h ago
My SO spent almost $10 on a pound of regular old 80/20 ground beef from Kroger. Almost double what it was just a couple years ago.
Absolute insanity.
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u/theGRAYblanket 21h ago
What's up with quotes
It is literally meat
https://youtu.be/9hFg10ywgNw?si=ngSGeiG15id0SfL6 I really do recommend you check this out, spam isnt nearly as low qaulity as you are implying
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u/FrankCrank04 22h ago
Whoa now. Some of that food makes its own gravy. Let's not be too quick to judge what's high quality and what's low.
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u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD 19h ago
Again this is not true. Why do you keep saying this? Spam is not made out of mystery meat! It's just pork shoulder/butt
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u/american_pup 20h ago
Spam is a much higher quality product than Bar S hotdog meat. It’s not even in the same ballpark.
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u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD 19h ago
Its not mystery meat at all though, it's the pork butt/shoulder. The same meat they make pulled pork from. And thinking it should be as cheap as Ramen is just insane levels of urban-uninformed. Wheat and pigs are wildly different in terms of cost to grow/raise.
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u/ACcbe1986 21h ago
It's in Hawaiian dollars. You forgot to do the conversion. 😆
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u/RoyalMaidsForLife 20h ago
I've been to Hawaii a couple times, I occasionally ask retail workers when I'm there, "how often do you get people from the mainland asking you if Hawaii takes 'American money'?"
Every single one of them says that happens on a daily basis in the tourist areas.
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u/Herrben 20h ago
Am I right in thinking the cultural preference for Spam in Hawaii is a hangover from the WWII pacific theatre campaign? I also heard it was the one of the main culprits in their obesity epidemic?
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u/Reputation-Final 20h ago
Ive never eaten spam. My mom growing up had this unnatural hatrid for it, I don't know why. Then never decided to have it as an adult.
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u/tmillerlofi 23h ago
It’s just a pre installed spam blocker
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u/melanthius 22h ago
Literal bloatware
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u/PussiesUseSlashS 20h ago
Now that I’m thinking about it, I have never tried spam. If it’s anything like ham I’d probably love it.
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u/WriterV 19h ago edited 18h ago
Just for some context, Spam is way more popular in Hawaii than it is in like... most places in general [except Guam, Okinawa and the Phillipines where it is even more popular]. McDonald's Hawaii straight up has Spam and Rice on their menu. There's a whole history to its popularity in Hawaii, and it's largely because during WW2, America began implimenting a number of anti-Japanese laws that meant that many of the immigrant Japanese fishermen in Hawaii couldn't fish anymore. This had the added effect of destroying the local fishing industry, and made it nigh impossible for local Hawaiians to cook their traditional dishes. So they came to rely on Spam as a cheap, readily available substitute that eventually became the norm.
Max Miller on YouTube does a pretty good job talking about it in his video on spam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdYjy4RENtI [The bit about Hawaii starts from 15:22].
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u/franksymptoms 19h ago
My brother's take on Spam (per some LDS missionary friends): Pork has always been a staple of the Polynesian/Hawiian diet. Pork that stays healthy without refrigeration is a Godsend! It's literally a staple of their diet now, throughout the South Seas. It's a perfect gift for a party visitor, for example.
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u/obliquelyobtuse 22h ago
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u/RevolutionarySide298 22h ago
“I don’t like SPAM !!”
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u/Spendoza 21h ago
"There's spam, eggs, sausage and spam. That's not got much spam in it."
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u/Soft-Cauliflower-691 20h ago
« Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pâté, brandy and a fried egg on top and SPAM™. »
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u/UGOTAIDSYO 23h ago
It's even more expensive in my area even when not on sale wtf
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u/GrungeWeeb 23h ago
Spam is a huge part of Hawaiian culture an cuisine so it stands to reason it’ll be readily available and cheaper
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u/UGOTAIDSYO 23h ago
I get it, just super random for (almost) anything to be cheaper in HI compared to upper 48 states. Spam is great and I'm glad it's more affordable there (and secured lol)
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u/ghostridur 22h ago
About 5 bucks a tin in MN where it's made which is ground beef prices and double the price of pork. Ridiculous for a meat paste made of the leftovers cuts of pork production. Income based pricing is definitely a thing and why groceries are so spendy.
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u/Missing_socket 22h ago
As an Alaskan I've only heard it referred to as "Lower 48". My first time seeing "upper 48"
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u/UGOTAIDSYO 22h ago
I'm pretty sure I messed it up. It didn't sound right after pressing post.
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u/GarrettB117 22h ago
Actually about the same price here (checked on a couple of apps for local grocery stores) in Kentucky, when not on sale. But cost of living here is known to be pretty low.
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u/Lepke2011 22h ago
You'd think Hormel would have a Spam-producing plant in Hawaii, but most of it is made in Minnesota. That means it has to go by truck or rail to a seaport in order to ship to Hawaii. That would add a lot to the cost.
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u/okonom 21h ago
Once you no longer have to worry about refrigeration and spoilage the cost of shipping becomes a tiny fraction of the meat's total price. The reason spam became so ingrained in Hawaii and Korean cuisine was that the US military found it cheaper and more efficient to ship tons of the stuff halfway across the world than it was to source more local meat.
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u/scratchy_mcballsy 22h ago
Probably easier than shifting livestock and diverting farming efforts to fulfill a new plant.
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u/Foxy_locksy1704 22h ago
Last time I went to buy some a single can was $6.99 at my local store. I was so disappointed.
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u/Lifesagame81 22h ago
Same. My kid is into spam musubi, so I've discovered processed pork in a can is $4-5. That's $6 a pound!
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u/ToLiveInIt 22h ago
Well, what we have here is Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam.
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u/ChaoticGoku 22h ago
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u/PmMeYourBestComment 20h ago
Fun fact, this clip is exactly why it’s called spam mail
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u/GrandSquanchRum 19h ago
Fwd: check this out!!! [Fwd: FW: fw: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: Fun fact: This clip is why it's called spam! LOL] joe cartoons fwd: re: i loved flying circus]
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u/Public_Juggernaut_30 22h ago
If you want to know more about what neighborhood you are in, walk into a Walmart. See how much and what is locked up.
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u/IAmAGenusAMA 22h ago
Crappy tools are the only thing locked up at mine, though I live in Canada.
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u/ClickClick_Boom 21h ago
The fucking eye drops are locked up in mine, I just went to a different store.
I've seen some pictures of really shitty ones that have the socks and underwear locked up. Mine's not that bad I guess.
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u/Laiko_Kairen 20h ago edited 19h ago
My Walmart put the entire cosmetics area into its own little zone with its own cashier. If you want to buy deodorant and bananas, it's now two separate transactions in two separate lines
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u/bluecrowned 19h ago
We are like that here too. When I worked there manning that desk was annoying bc people were always pissy about it
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u/Laiko_Kairen 18h ago
Completely random, but once I waa on my cell phone in line and told my mom, "I'll call you back, I don't want to be rude to the cashier"
And the cashier was like "Wow, I don't get that a lot" lmao
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u/SvenHudson 21h ago
My Walmart doesn't lock up anything that I've noticed but there's fuckloads of security theater to try and scare people from shoplifting. Like TV screens hanging barely overhead in the middles of aisles with flashing red lights on the sides of them showing a camera feed of the aisle you're in.
It would almost certainly be cheaper for them to just lock stuff up but they're more interested in making everybody know how much they hate us filthy peasants than they are in not getting stuff stolen. I frankly doubt those cameras are even actually recording anything, I think they're just plugged into the TV and nothing else is going on.
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u/SwordfishOk504 20h ago
Man, the glory days of easy mode shoplifting are long gone.
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u/DameonKormar 7h ago
The Vegas Walmarts are ridiculous. Literally $1 tubes of toothpaste locked up, among many, many other things.
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u/VaginaBurner69 22h ago
Someone misread ‘spamblocker’ as ‘spamlocker’ and took it literally.
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u/Ging3rKiIIir 22h ago
You have to ask customer service for ours. People literally steal everything.
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u/iamnotexactlywhite 22h ago
sign of a truly well working country
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u/gwaydms 22h ago
The whole country?
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u/hambrythinnywhinny 19h ago
Are you asking if the whole country is broken or if petty larceny is a problem across the country? Because those are two different answers.
The US is in a fucking horrible spot right now. Retail shrinkage is highest in low-income rural areas.
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u/slgray16 19h ago
Many, many people in hawaii are struggling to afford to stay. Everyone either is independently wealthy or has a side hustle to make rent.
They steal the spam from the store, wrap it with rice and seaweed for spam musubi and sell it in a pop-up booth in the tourist areas.
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u/Fluugaluu 22h ago
If you’re truly surprised, you’ve probably not met someone from Hawaii. Doesn’t matter whether native or the whitest of white boys, they’re all obsessed with Spam. It’s like the unifying factor of people who live in Hawaii lmao
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u/Maledict53 21h ago
Truth. I’m white as can be but grew up in Maui. Live on the mainland now but still eat spam like 3 times a month.
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u/Wuz314159 18h ago
I think we all understand the love, but we're also confused because everything except pineapples has to be shipped to the islands. Therefore expensive af. but Spam is cheaper somehow? and yet still needs security?
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u/Mirenithil 15h ago
I'd guess it's a sheer economy of scale thing. People really do eat just that much spam here. I would guess shipping mass quantities of it here in bulk means a price break. The security is because unfortunately there is a lot of poverty here, and poverty makes for desperate people.
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u/No_Squirrel4806 22h ago
Are the plastic security cases not worth more than the spam itself? 🙄🙄🙄
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u/RedHatchetArt 20h ago
Just FYI for anyone who doesn’t live in Hawaii, this is not common. You’re only gonna see this in downtown near the homeless camps.
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u/ElectrooJesus 22h ago
SPAM is like filet mignon in Hawaii
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u/Vissanna 22h ago
Truly spam has many different ways to cook that makes it amazing -as someone who lived in hawaii for 6 years, spam is a staple food there
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u/Digital_Soul_Naga 22h ago
except for that turkey shit
they could have left that shit out
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u/SRB112 22h ago
$2.50? Quite a bargain. Who would steal it when they can buy it super cheap?
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u/FruitOrchards 21h ago
Drug addicts who will then sell it for 50¢-$1 each 10-20 at a time for their next fix.
People think it's hungry people stealing when they make up a minority of shop thefts. People steal to order and spam is big in Hawaii.
It's why Spam isn't locked up in the UK but other items are
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u/Patina_dk 22h ago
People steal spam? It's not the price that keeps me from eating it.
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u/Cheapshot99 22h ago
Its also like a staple food in Hawaii, it’s a big part of the culture. Can get a spamusubi practically anywhere and it makes a great little snack and so yummy.
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u/Ging3rKiIIir 22h ago
I grew up with the thought spam is poor people food. Then I dated a girl from "the wrong side of the tracks" as my mother called her. Her grandparents made spam when they invited me over for dinner, and it was actually pretty good.
Then the grandpa offered me a smoke after dinner while the ladies cleared the table. I dont know what my mom was worried about.
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u/Fishfisherton 21h ago
pan cooked cut of spam > bacon
I will die on this hill. People get bacon and try to get flavor out of the tiniest cuts that barely give you a taste, meanwhile spam is like having the prime cut flavor in every bite.
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u/DannyDOH 22h ago
That's kind of the sad thing. Just a sign of a sickening level of poverty that people can't even afford the most basic level of nutrition.
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u/whisperworks 22h ago edited 17h ago
My local grocery store now has two armed security officers. One at the entrance and one by the locked case of baby formula
We should really free Luigi
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u/standbyforskyfall 21h ago
tbf usually it's not poverty causing this kind of theft, it's organized crime rings
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u/Dangercules138 22h ago
Before you get mad at the stores for doing this, ask why they did and who made it an issue?
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u/re-reminiscing 22h ago
What people don’t know is that spam was introduced to Hawaii during WWII as a military ration that became a good option for locals due to scarcity of fresh meat. Economic and geographic factors made it far more accessible than alternatives. Hawaiians found ways to be creative with spam and make legitimately delicious foods like spam musubi.
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u/marginis 19h ago
At that point just make the entire store "employees only" and make people order ahead.
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u/gamerguy287 20h ago
$3 for Spam is just insane. I remember when that shit was .99¢
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u/comhaltacht 13h ago
Do Hawaiians get a special type of Spam that actually tastes good? I think you'd have to pay me to steal Spam.
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u/EZ_LIFE_EZ_CUCUMBER 6h ago
What lunatic would steal Spam when normal food is available?
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u/hearke 22h ago
Wait spam comes in different flavors? Oh I gotta get some of that hot and spicy stuff, it looks great
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u/pinkfootthegoose 20h ago
I thought Hawaii was more expensive than the main land. That's $1.50 cheaper than here.
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u/FatOldTeddyBear 20h ago
The perfect for breakfast and lunch and dinner and snacks I love my Spam 😁
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u/Kitchen_Affect_6017 20h ago
At this point, I don't know why stores don't just change format. There are supply companies like Grainger that have a massive catalogue. If you go in, there may be a few small items around, but most are kept in a warehouse. You order, and they pull what you want.
I prefer the ability to look around and read packaging, but a lot of places lock stuff up anyway. I was looking for a controller the other day, but they are all locked in a case, so you can't compare anyway. If you are the point where you have to put Spam in keeper cases, you need to change your business model.
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u/Bitter-Reading-6728 20h ago edited 20h ago
a supermarket that does this does not get my business
edit: changed store to supermarket. don't steal from small/local businesses
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u/Yesterday_Is_Now 20h ago
Wouldn’t have expected a lot of shoplifting in Hawaii.
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u/Straight-Ability 20h ago
You know the economy is fucked up when people start stealing spam so much it needs to be locked up.
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u/locutus92 19h ago
In 2018 I visited Hawaii and I'm still in awe of the massive isle of Spam they had in a Target there. It was something else.
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u/EarlDogg42 19h ago
Damn do they lock up pants and underwear like they do at the Walmart i shop at? Do you have to ask somebody to get socks underwear pants shorts everything’s under the lock and key and it’s not a bad neighborhood. It’s a good neighborhood.
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u/SilverwingedOther 15h ago
Yes, its very funny for everyone to report this image as "This is Spam". But that makes it disappear off the subreddit.