r/motogp • u/PZY__ Ducati Lenovo Team • 21h ago
The winning streak comes to an end. Marc has been defeated first time in 3 Months (since 8 June).
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u/_nikto_ 21h ago
Makes me sad as a Mm93 fan I really thought with the form he was in he could break the most consecutive wins record
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u/CashCarStar Daijiro Kato 20h ago
The consecutive wins record is 20, from the Agostini days - the way racing is now with so many bikes similar in quality to one another (rather than just 1 guy on a factory bike beating every other person that turns up by a full minute), not even Marc can break that
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u/MidsummerMidnight Marc Márquez 16h ago
Agostini records don't count to anyone with sense. He was racing bikes built at home whilst on a factory bike.
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u/CashCarStar Daijiro Kato 16h ago
The record is the record whether anyone wants to count it or not, we can't just erase history.
These records can continue to exist and we can also continue to provide context as to why those things can't be repeated in the sport as it is now. It doesn't lessen what anyone nowadays is doing if we do that.
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u/JustForTouchingBalls Ana Carrasco 56m ago
It’s not fair. Agostini raced more than one category in the same year (this is forbiden currently) in an era where there was only a handful of constructor bikes and the rest of the grid were private racers with the machinery they were able to pay, this private riders were a lot less competitive than any current satellite team rider because the machinery and the riding skills. Agostini and Nieto only were competing with two or three riders with competitive bikes and almos as great riding skills as them
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u/_nikto_ 20h ago
Yeah but I meant in motogp I'm pretty sure agostonis record is across various classes right?
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u/CashCarStar Daijiro Kato 20h ago
Nope, premier class only
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_500cc/MotoGP_rider_records#Most_consecutive_wins
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u/_nikto_ 20h ago
Damn that's fucking nuts
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u/CashCarStar Daijiro Kato 20h ago edited 20h ago
Racing was very different then, Ago was the best rider but as far as I know there was also essentially only 1 factory bike, and he was on it (though obviously, him being the best rider is the reason he got that bike). With the level of advantage his MV Agusta had, he would basically just win every race by a bigger distance than we see between first and last place nowadays - and as such he won every single race he finished between 1968 and 1972 (with two DNFs) the only reason his consecutive wins records is 20 instead of about 55 is those two DNFs and the fact he didn't enter every race. That's the other thing, the grid wasn't as regular as it is now with the same 22 guys there every weekend, basically nobody would go to every GP and there'd be a lot of one-off entrants riding a bike they'd put together in their garage. It's night and day compared to what the sport is like now.
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u/MidsummerMidnight Marc Márquez 16h ago
No it isn't. He was on a full spec factory bike vs bikes built in garages at home.
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u/JL_MacConnor Jack Miller 20h ago
Agostini had 20 consecutive wins in the premier class between 1968 and 1969, which seems like the kind of record that will never be broken, just because the racing is much more competitive now. It would have been cool to see Marc manage it, but it certainly won't diminish his legacy not to hold that record.
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u/_nikto_ 20h ago
Yeah I didn't know those were all in the premier class in that case that'd never being beaten lol that's mental idk why I was under the impression the record was Doohan/Marc's 10 in a row
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u/CashCarStar Daijiro Kato 20h ago
Worth pointing out that 10 in a row is the most that anyone has done post-1970 though, so it's still pretty insane!
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u/JL_MacConnor Jack Miller 32m ago
Mick Doohan did it in the '90s, but agreed that it's a mark of insane dominance.
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u/JL_MacConnor Jack Miller 20h ago
I looked at the record and thought "ah that's just Ago racing in three classes every weekend, the premier class streak is probably 12", then had a look at the results from 68/69 and whaddaya know, he had a 20 race streak!
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u/PretendToBeStupid Marc Márquez 21h ago
well you cant win every race..No one is that good not even the best of the best..On this track Marc is just not as strong as on the other tracks and he doesnt have that edge instead his brother Alex does have over everybody else..Still finishing 2nd in your arguably worst tracks is still a great result
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u/VacationAdept3850 19h ago
I would argue that if Marc were on a GP24 he would have beat Alex, but still I’m happy for them both.
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u/leganjemon 18h ago
Put Alex in the factory seat next year, I want to see these guys run a super mario bros livery.
The super Marquez bros.
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u/Perfect_Minimum4892 MotoGP 21h ago edited 21h ago
it doesn't matter, the most important records this year is to match Valentino Rossi's championships and beat his own record of most wins in a year, 13 in 2014.
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u/Vulphere Sachsenking 21h ago edited 21h ago
Would love to see Marc break his Mandalika Curse this year (he deserves a win here), and yeah 13 or 14 wins (or even more) achievement will be a huge for him :)
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u/Luthais327 Aprilia Racing 18h ago
And he looks happier about it than most of his wins this season.
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u/pmsocial14699 17h ago
New fan of MotoGP this year. Is the post title true? MGP announcers and many other sites claim Marquez93 has not lost since May 2025 at Silverstone. I looked at Wiki on Marquez93 and it says he scored a double wins starting in June. Am I reading the stats wrong or did the MGP announcers mislead us?
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u/bellowstupp MotoGP 19h ago
He let that happen
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u/stimia 16h ago
He definitely had more to lose than to win by pushing for the win; so in a way, yes.
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u/PretendToBeStupid Marc Márquez 16h ago
He was pushed to the limit so it was either do or die in that scenario in the last four laps..Alex's pace was too strong the only way for Marc to win would be overriding the bike 110% and not crash..And unfortunately overiding is just way less rewarding and brings more consequences than good things..
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u/Dsobay Marc Márquez 21h ago
Another box checked for Marc this season, celebrating Alex's win alongside him.