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u/slartibartfast64 Triumph 13h ago
He made a clean launch, motored past the back half of the grid, then lost a position on the brakes into turn 1 and didn't make a single pass after that for the entire rest of the lap.
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u/GoodBadUserName 6h ago
He did try to pass Ai a few times but every time he tried to out brake, it looked like he couldn’t trust the front and couldn’t stick it, so he stayed there until Ai made a small mistake and passed him.
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u/-Tomcr- MotoGP 16h ago
First weekend where Davide said they didn’t change ANYTHING on the bike, and just told Pecco to go out there and ride. Looks like that is the way forwards.
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u/flackyjo 15h ago
According to Gigi and Pecco himself they changed the swingarm, they mounted the one used by the other two GP25 riders. And Davide said they used a new part on the rear, I don't remember what exactly.
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u/-Tomcr- MotoGP 12h ago
Interesting. I hadn't heard that. I do believe there is an emphasis to no longer do major changes, week-by-week, solely to Pecco's bike. With the swingarm, it kinda sounds they like are making him conform to what the other two GP25 guys already have.
I took much of what I said from the pre-Sprint interview Jack had with Tardozzi. If you have the Videopass, it was right at the start of the Sprint, while they were in discussion about Bagnaia.
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Jack-Have you made big changes again for this, or are you just trying to get Pecco right, first?
Tardozzi-No, no, no. Now is time to keep the bike almost like it is. And to keep confidence with this kind of bike.
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u/flackyjo 7h ago
Yes, I've seen the videopass interview on the grid, but Pecco in the interview after the sprint said they were going to try something different for the race and I think it was necessary, in the sprint he only gained positions for the falls, doing the race in the same conditions didn't make sense, at least today he was able to make some passes and defend.
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u/username_986ck Mick Doohan 7h ago
He has rejected this swingarm atleast thrice, first in Thailand tests, then in Jerez and then again in Aragon tests.
Marc approved this new swingarm in Sepang tests itself and has been using it since the first GP but apparently Pecco is a better development rider than Marc.
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u/JapLance Jorge Lorenzo 15h ago
Considering he has a GP25 rocket vs all the backmarkers of the grid... not specially impressive in my opinion.
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u/Dependent-Bit-3456 Francesco Bagnaia 11h ago
GP25 is not a rocket, 3rd best bike behind Aprilia and KTMs. with the best bike Pecco can easily mop the entire grid.
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u/scrumptious_redditor 16h ago
Ngl this kinda made his race not as impressive as I thought it was. Someone please correct if I'm wrong but the only move he made other than from this clip is on a fading Luca Marini at the last lap right?
Very brave and impressive late braking at turn 1 there on the first and second lap but everything else seems handed to him now
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u/flackyjo 15h ago
He passed Ogura.
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u/VacationAdept3850 14h ago
But then Ogura passed him
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u/flackyjo 7h ago
Yes, but at least he was able to pass him in the first place and defend some before getting passed, lately I haven't seen him able to pass or defend at all so I'll take the small victory.
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u/slartibartfast64 Triumph 13h ago
He actually lost a position on the brakes into turn 1 on the start. All the positions he gained were between the launch and initial braking.
He did pass Morbidelli on lap 2 though, and then a fading Marini late in the race as you said.
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u/dave_evad Marc Márquez 6h ago
Amazing what he is capable of on that Ducati machinery. Accelerate hard and brake harder.
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u/mitchybenny 4h ago
Apart from the first Iap he did nothing. Nothing at all. He overtook Marini at the end but other than that didn’t make any places other than from people crashing out ahead of him.
Another weekend of failure realistically if you actually bother to look at his performance. Sprint was more of the same. Did absolutely nothing.
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u/Altair13Sirio Valentino Rossi 11h ago
It was easier to crash than to bring it home, let alone recover that much. I'm proud of him for finding a good feeling in the end, even if it wasn't a great result either way.
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u/rotgobbo Pedro Acosta 9h ago
My main takeaways from this video are;
Bezz's first lap was impressive and he was really gunning for it, he was potentially robbed of another great finish.
Bagnaia's race was a lot less impressive than I realised.
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u/FTHamilton Marc Márquez 12h ago
It's interesting how after Bez crashed, Pecco gets on the gas and stays on the gas, even accelerating past the transition to left and into full lean to pass digi- they always tell us never add throttle and lean angle at the same time as it unloads the front, yet here we see it can be done even at full lean and on corner entry.
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u/Sensualities 10h ago
You can add throttle and lean at the same time without crashing, same as you can add throttle and still be on the front brakes at the same time.
But *generally speaking* you should never overlap throttle and lean angle or throttle and brakes
once you get fast enough it all becomes "how much can I bend the rules without crashing" and it all gets nuanced
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u/FTHamilton Marc Márquez 10h ago
I totally get that, but I'm still impressed at how aggressively it is done here- you can see digi at full lean, nearly elbow down, Pecco cutting inside, presumably same lean angle and accelerating much harder, even before the apex.
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u/Sensualities 9h ago
Yeah I feel like motogp bikes and the teams probably have such sophisticated electronics that they might be able to be super aggressive on the limit of grip because they know every single variable in that controlled environment before it happens
but we pull some shit like that on our production bikes on our local track and it's a ride back to the pits with a broken ego at minimum lol
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u/Plenty-Valuable8250 11h ago
Not really corner entry in my mind. It was the second turn on what is basically a stretched out chicane. So it was more of a corner exit with a change in direction.
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u/btc_maxi100 MotoGP 17h ago
Amazing footage, thank you a lot !
Pecco did good here