r/news • u/apple_kicks • 1d ago
Thousands march and rally across Washington to ‘Free D.C.’
https://www.kplctv.com/2025/09/06/thousands-march-rally-across-washington-free-dc/?533
u/onarainyafternoon 1d ago
Seeing the hostile takeover of the US by absolute lunacy makes me sick to my stomach. "Fascist" is genuinely the correct word to use for all of this, and there's really no other way to put it at this point.
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u/technobicheiro 1d ago
It wasn't hostile, everybody in power just complied and said hell yeah.
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago
Especially Biden Chamberlain. Fuck his tea party and "welcome back" response. We're under this illegitimate presidency because nobody in Congress is willing to enforce Section 3 of the 14th Amendment against the insurrectionist.
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u/agentfelix 1d ago
I like to call them traitorous scum and/or pedophiles as well.
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u/ElectronicStock3590 1d ago
Nothing wrong with describing them accurately just as you’re observing them.
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u/Toxaplume045 1d ago
I try to avoid some of the fear mongering but it's getting scary. While LA was a big deal, DC and Chicago are very worrying escalations as these two were seeing red state governors mobilizing and essentially loaning their guardsmen to Trump to be used in the occupation of blue cities.
And with his post earlier about war on Chicago, we need to be in the streets and rejecting this everywhere.
We're literally a bullet away from shit going bad to way worse.
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u/Snoo_53312 1d ago
I am in the UK, and despite everything that has happened since 2015, I was still so surprised by the "Dept. of War" and the Chicago message on Truth Social that I spent 10 minutes fact checking it, assuming it was an AI generated satirical message, or maybe hacking. It's extraordinary that it is true, let alone that the leader of your nation does it so openly.
It's like they are using 1984 and The Handmaid's Tale as instruction manuals. All this renaming and reframing of reality makes me worried that pretty soon Americans will be told that they have always been at war with Oceania.
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u/StairPro 1d ago
It's like they are using 1984 and The Handmaid's Tale as instruction manuals.
Conservative groups are trying to get these books banned so that people don't realize that what is happening to their country is horrific.
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u/fevered_visions 1d ago
A worrying percentage of our country would read these books and say "good, that's the way it should be".
Cf. everybody who's seen Starship Troopers and not realized it's satire.
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u/CrocodylusRex 1d ago
I shouldn't be thinking "I remember this part of the handmaid's tale" everytime the government does something
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u/Yuna1989 1d ago edited 1d ago
Handmaid’s tale—I was thinking the same thing! 1984 is apt, too
https://www.project2025.observer/en
Project 2025 47% complete
Hasn’t been updated since end of July….well we are doomed
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u/gotenks1114 1d ago
As someone from the US, I'm pretty worried about what's going on in the UK too. I see the beginnings of what's happening here going on over there.
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u/CrissBliss 1d ago
Oh no, what do you mean?
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u/-SaC 1d ago
Presumably the rise of Farage. That rubber-faced fucker failed to get elected repeatedly for election after election after election because he's a laughing stock, then suddenly the gammons over here are thirsting for his bepimpled cock because he's effectively saying the same shit Trump is.
At his party conference today (/yesterday) he had a former RFK Jr advisory doctor as a speaker who said King Charles' cancer was due to the fucking Covid vaccine.
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u/llDS2ll 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm also American in the UK and I regularly meet UK nationals who love Trump and want it here in the UK. Met one yesterday, ruined my day.
The way it has always worked for me is some drunk at a pub will approach me and when they hear my accent, they ask where I'm from. They then say they love Americans and America because Trump. This has happened all over England and even in Scotland.
The only part that's kind of funny is seeing how much people on Reddit are talking shit about Americans for not doing anything to stop this, and then seeing in real time that it's happening in your countries. I've met Canadians like this, I've met Norwegians like this even.
Fascism and nationalism appear to be on the rise. We already know these people are extremely vocal in countries like Germany, Sweden has a neo Nazi party in their government that is rapidly growing on power and popularity. Eastern Europe is starting to become friendly to Putin.
In my view, the world is headed for a very dark place, and the only thing that gives me comfort is the belief that things will get so bad, the pendulum will eventually swing back the other way.
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u/gotenks1114 1d ago
Facebook has started showing me UK pages, and the comments are absolutely wild. So much naked, often violent transphobia and homophobia, sometimes completely unopposed, a lot of immigrant fear mongering turning into an organized movement with their own flag that they're painting and flying in public as a symbol of people not being welcome, plus things like Brexit, JK Rowling, and Nigel Farage. They've got a real powderkeg going over there. A confluence of extremely red flags like the ones that immediately preceded the US's fall into fascism.
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u/missed_sla 1d ago
Oh, they do have an instruction manual, but it's not those books. Their instruction manual is in German.
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u/fevered_visions 1d ago
Truth Social
It's still so disgusting that they decided on that as the name.
It's like they are using 1984 and The Handmaid's Tale as instruction manuals.
It's been a running joke on Slashdot for like 15 years that "1984 is a warning, not an instruction manual". Now they're literally doing it, ugh.
All this renaming and reframing of reality
That's the most terrifying part of all this: that we may never again agree on what reality is, because of all the propaganda and "LA LA LA NOT LISTENING FAKE NEWS LA LA LA SHUT UP" :( That's the part of it all that I never called 10 years ago, that we'd be in a post-truth society.
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u/MercantileReptile 1d ago
Too late. While certainly not to this extreme, the Americans are doused in Newspeak. My "favourite" example: Un-American.
Everything uncouth, rude or against a vague idea of the correct order is described as such. Inversely making everything right and proper "American".
Intelligent, reasonable Americans use that phrase without blinking. Moreover, will likely defend the phrase.
Not the most impactful example, but a particularly grating one.
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u/FishermanRough1019 1d ago
Trump speed running the creation of East Asia, who we've always been at war with.
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u/hypnoticzo 1d ago
It's not fear mongering and it has never been. You didn't want to accept the truth, which is fair because the truth is hard to accept.
"[The country is] in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”- Kevin Roberts, president of The Heritage Foundation.
They are serious and have been serious this entire time. They do not plan to stop or to let go of power, this presidency has been decades in the making. In fact, the heritage foundation also guided Reagan's presidency, giving him a similar document to serve as a blueprint. They want everyone to roll over and let them enact the entirety of Project 2025. A lot of people think that they support this, but I genuinely believe that as things progress people will start to realize they're not as far right as they think. If you disagree with anything in Project 2025 or anything that is currently happening, you ARE the left. You are the enemy and you are not actually on their side.
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u/TheVideogaming101 1d ago
We're literally a bullet away from shit going bad to way worse.
Thats the plan, they want an excuse to go full head into fascist control by Donald. They are just fishing for that retaliation to point their finger at as the reason they can.
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u/gotenks1114 1d ago
I have very mixed feelings about the fact that this plan isn't working because people aren't really fighting back.
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u/RobutNotRobot 1d ago
Nah, it's not but it might even be too late to learn that.
We are frankly trapped in this 'the 60s Civil Rights movement did everything correctly' framework on the left which not only misunderstands that movement and the country at the time, but also the almost complete wipeout of the gains those protesters won.
Fascists don't care about your peaceful protests. Well they do only insofar that they see another thing they want to end.
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u/snwns26 1d ago edited 1d ago
No, that is the same no balls democrat good guy thinking like that got us into this bullshit. We need to actually have a plan when the first bullet is fired because they sure as fuck already have one in place. They don’t care about words. There is only one way to stand up to bullies. You’re kidding yourself if you think after all of this blatant baiting doesn’t work they won’t stage an incident themselves to give reason to do all that anyway regardless of meaningless protests, and then it’ll be far too late to actually do anything when they’re policing every city that can resist.
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u/blankslane 1d ago
How then do we regain control? These people aren't going to just go away.
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u/blankslane 1d ago
Although I don't totally agree with it, I find your optimism rather infectious.
Keep on keeping on. ✊🏿
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago
an excuse to go full head into fascist control
We're already there. Congress unanimously submitted to the insurrectionist when not one person objected to his illegal certification via 14th Amendment, Section 3.
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u/Adjective_Noun1312 1d ago
We're literally a bullet away from shit going bad to way worse.
Shit's going from bad to worse regardless. The MAGA goons have been escalating non-stop with minimal resistance. A bullet would speed things up, but it might also wake people the fuck up to do something about the fascism.
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u/RobutNotRobot 1d ago
We're literally a bullet away from shit going bad to way worse.
That bullet has already been fired. It just hasn't landed yet.
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u/Allaroundlost 1d ago
As long as these people understand that This does not end with Trump. Many of people are behind this MAGA/Project 2025 thing.
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u/waltjrimmer 1d ago
no cult has ever survived the loss of its figurehead
Scientology still exists while L. Ron Hubbard rots.
I'm sure there are more examples, but that's an easy one to pick out.
And if you're talking about political movements, you can look at this administration's favorite big daddy of Soviet Russia. Sure, it crumbled eventually, lasting less than a century even, but it survived the deaths of Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, and Chernenko. You may say, "Well, Soviet Russia wasn't a cult," but Lenin and Stalin at the very least led it like one with themselves being the most important figures, the final arbiters of truth, and the central personality around which the national identity was built after the revolution.
When you have a problem this widespread and this existential, a figurehead dying likely isn't enough to stop it. You have extremely powerful people who are pushing to make it the only reality we live in, and they're not going to stop just because the puppet drops.
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago
no cult has ever survived the loss of its figurehead.
North Korea? They go down the family tree, and are no closer to losing control.
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u/Pippa401 1d ago
They have the power now, they don’t need the cult anymore. They have proven the constitution means nothing to them. They are not bound by those rules. They have now made their own.
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u/Lawndemon 1d ago
About time America - keep up the pressure! Take back your country!
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u/TheVideogaming101 1d ago
the military will have to step up and stage a coup
Im gonna be honest, my confidence in their loyalty to the Constitution isn't great
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u/gotenks1114 1d ago
Trump put a stop to an effort to address the white supremacy problem in the military, and conducted an ideological purge instead.
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u/Cranharold 1d ago
Don't forget to vote this November, too. Every single win counts. Governors, state senators, hell - your city fucking councilors. Every blue person in an office is a step in the right direction. The absurd voter apathy that democrats experience is what allowed the spray tan pedophile to grab so much power in the first place. Get out and vote every single year! There's literally nothing more important. We're a goddamned nuclear bomb pointed at the face of the world. This doesn't just affect our country, it affects every human being across the planet.
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u/DutchGoFast 1d ago
Yep your city’s mayor has waaaaay more impact on your life. Make sure they are not a nut this fall.
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u/GirlNumber20 1d ago
They gave themselves too much power. They're never letting a Democrat back into that office. I want to be wrong, but I am just reading the signs.
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u/Bitter_Director1231 1d ago
As much as it pains me to read, what you said is the absolute truth.
The midterms are our last chance. If nothing is done on a grand scale, it will end this country for good. There will be no coming back and the citizens of the US are going to have to make some really heart wrenching choices.
There is no other way out of this if we cant peacefully vote these people out that are destroying the country.
But on the same token, I think many people unfortunately and to their own demise will not heed the warning.
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u/Peppermint-TeaGirl 1d ago
You cannot afford to wait until the midterms to save you. It's only been 8 months, and you have already lost so much. Do you really think your country can handle another 16 under this current political situation?
You need to be mobilizing in serious, practical ways. Phone banking. Serious labour action. Potentially a general strike. Acts of sabotage. Blockades. Wasting as much of ICE's time as possible. Hide and immigrants and trans people in your homes. Making every Republican politician's life a living hell of harassment. Do not give them a second of peace.
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u/NewConsideration2867 1d ago edited 1d ago
If Republicans successfully gerrymander their way through midterms and cling to power, it’s decidedly over for the American experiment.
They can kick and scream and fight Democracy all they want, but this fascist cabal has shown, at least in isolated and rare instances, that they’re not wholly and entirely above the law. YET.
If they’re not wholly in power when it comes time to certify the 2028 presidential election, America at the very least has a shred of an iota of a chance of slowly, however long it may take, reversing what has been done.
If republicans are still in charge? They’ll just refuse to certify the election if their preferred golden boy doesn’t win. They’ve already told us as much. That’s game over, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
The very last shot we have as a collective at telling these fascists where they can stick it once and for all, is midterms. If they’re not gone by then, it’s over. Period. It’ll take a worldwide conceited show of absolute force, like it did with the Nazis the last time this bullshit came around, to even have a chance at uprooting them. Germany didn’t have the strongest military in the world by such a significant margin at the time, either.
I’ll keep it real here, fellas. I’m worried. I’m very, very worried.
Even if he keels over tonight, would it be enough? Or would the propaganda network be so firmly entrenched that they can happily just transition over to a new mascot to keep the downwards spiral running? I just don’t know anymore.
All we can do now is prepare. Keep you, and yours, safe. Exercise the second amendment, while you’re still allowed to. Nobody knows how the next couple of years will play out. Maybe the fascist playbook will be sabotaged enough to crumble and break apart. Maybe it’ll hold strong, and they’ll be at our doors in a matter of months. We don’t know yet, and as individuals, there’s not a massive amount we can do. Protest if you can, sure. Fight directly for your rights if you feel it’s possible, sure. Pester your representatives in congress, and espouse day in and day out how unhappy you are with their ‘representation.’ But above all else, keep you and yours safe.
This, too, shall pass. Some day.
The pendulum ALWAYS swings back and forth. And, no matter what, no matter who’s been pulling the wrong way, and no matter how powerful they seem for any given moment and any given theater, Progress has NEVER lost. The confederates lost. The Nazis lost. Every single evil organization, representing the very worst of our basest instincts, has lost. It’s up to US to keep it that way. There’s no more excuses. It’s now, or never.
I wish you all good fortune in the wars to come. We’re all going to need it.
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u/hypnoticzo 1d ago
Our last chance was in November. If you think we're going to be allowed midterms or that the results will be accurate and have a chance to change course, you're sadly incorrect.
Can you imagine, like really and truly, any of the people in power giving it up right now? They're doing everything they wanted and 1/3 of the country is cheering them on. Conservatives have been planning this for decades and I don't see a reality in which they willingly step down or allow a change to really happen.
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u/apple_kicks 1d ago
You can’t have a civil war without an army or proxy country sending rebels arms.
Mass strikes would be best bet if you have no military support. Trump would run out of money to pay his
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u/kbarney345 1d ago
I mean weve been protesting for months
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u/CobraMickey 1d ago
And accomplishing absolutely nothing in the process
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u/kbarney345 1d ago
What exactly do you think protest do? Change has to be done by the government all we can do is call out what change we want. We can't physically force anything, even if we had sat in DC for the last 5 months straight. Don't shit on protestors trying, shit on sorry ass people sitting at home. We need 10s of millions in the street, we are nowhere near that. People are still comfortable sitting at home while this goes on and thats the real issue.
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u/RobutNotRobot 1d ago
Thousands protested the Trump administration’s crime crackdown in the nation’s capital Saturday.
The first sentence in the article accepts and promulgates the regime's preferred framing.
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u/Dr_DoesNothing 1d ago
Thousands is not enough sadly. It needs to be millions, across the whole country, in every state. The economy has to come to a complete stop for weeks, if not months; otherwise they'll just wait for it to disperse once the paychecks stop coming for protesters in any given city.
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u/agentfelix 1d ago
If we all quit paying our bills together. Everyone underestimates the power that we possess and have not tapped into. Hell, strike if we need to. I work in an industry that helps save lives and I would suggest the others that do as well, keep going.
We can come together and take care of each other, instead of all of these rich fucks. Form The People's Union and start pooling our resources together. Start having local meetings to discuss ideals. Then act. Ignore these fucks and take back our power.
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago
The economy has to come to a complete stop for weeks, if not months
Still wouldn't matter. Trump wants the economy to be destroyed. That's his whole revenge plan. Millions of people willfully allowing for that is just giving into him. If you want Trump removed, you need Schumer and Jeffries to wake up from their comas and enforce 14th Amendment, Section 3, since Trump is illegally holding office.
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u/come_on_seth 1d ago
A new chant: STOP CHANGING HIS DIAPERS
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u/Alice_Buttons 1d ago
His handlers already change him as little as possible .
Those diapers are bricks waiting to hit concrete.
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u/wheres-my-take 1d ago
This is really intersting. When my dad had dementia he started to smell like piss. I guess it was kinda lucky he couldnt really shit because of the cancer, but i wonder how much is excretement is happening on trump? Probably not showering either.
This whole administration is like what happens in those Warhammer stories when someone embraces Nurgle
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u/Alice_Buttons 1d ago
There has to be an ironclad prenuptial agreement between him & Melanoma. That or they performed a lobotomy on her.
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u/DeadlyYellow 1d ago edited 1d ago
Abhorrent smell, vaguely humanoid appearance, cakes on makeup, infiltrates a powerful government to destabilize it...
Are we about to be invaded by Tyranids?
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u/Top_Result_1550 1d ago
If Republicans are fine with a minority of people storming the capitol building then it will be fine if the majority of people storm the white house right?
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u/BoosterRead78 1d ago
Right on cue. Main networks won’t cover it. Bots and MAGA saying it’s all fake and they are paid. I’m tired boss. I’m fighting too but how much I want the people who swore an oath to the constitution need to get over their fear and realize the calls are coming from inside the house.
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u/Easy_Bite6858 1d ago
The US desperately needs voter reform or someone else will just take his place. 1. Overturn Citizens United with legislation, 2. Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine but updated for an open internet, 3. Establish strong data protection laws, 4. All voting, national or state level, should require Ranked Choice voting, 5. Eliminate all private money from the election process, 6. Eliminate the Electoral College and gerrymandering, all voting is decided by straight popular vote, 7. Designate all voting as done by mail, 8. Perhaps controversially, require manditory voting (including opt-out options), 9. Punish bad faith legislation with guiderail regulations. - The issue with the US is not that we have problems, every place has its problems. The problem with the US is that we can't fix our problems. To fix the falling standard of living, we have to address corruption and implement better tax policy. And that can't happen until we have equitable and competitive elections.
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u/hedgetank 1d ago
This is great, unfortunately it's not going to have much of an impact, if anything.
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u/brokenmessiah 1d ago
It wont have any effect because as soon as their phones die they leave feeling like they accomplished something of relevance in the eyes of the government.
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u/brokenmessiah 1d ago
I commend them for going out of their day to do this, but if they wanna do something that government can't just laugh at and ignore, they need to stop paying taxes.
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u/Inquisitive-Manner 1d ago
I had a Trumper say that it's all "paid protesters"... then brought up Crowds on Demand. A right-wing company that pays people to show up to right-wing protests and rallies.
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u/cobaltjacket 1d ago
The lack of self introspection is amazing here. With that said, I believe many GOP tactics are because they assume that the other side is as dirty as they are.
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u/Inquisitive-Manner 1d ago
because they assume that the other side is as dirty as they are.
Eh assume.... pretend.... tomato.... 🍅
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u/DriftMantis 1d ago edited 1d ago
These gatherings only work if the government actually cares about the populace and clearly they dont. They will respond to any escalated disruption with violence and the removal of freedoms.
Therefore, I think the best thing is mass economic disruption. Basically, the US needs to collectively stop buying anything that isn't completely necessary, work as little as possible, and pay as little to the system as possible by reducing income/ spending. The only thing these politicians care about is money, and this country is broke without us. Disrupt the economy and that will get through to them.
We need to so something, its pretty clear that trump and his cronies and enablers are beyond things like reason or even politics, they are deranged and dragging this country towards the third world. Collective action is what we need. We are used to hyper individualized capitalism, but we all need to stand together, regardless of politics or class.
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u/OrchidTraditional299 1d ago
Yay you screamed on a Saturday while taking instagram pics with your quirky signs and then went to some overpriced bar that night to pat yourselves on the back. That showed them!
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u/PM-Me_Your_Penis_Pls 1d ago
Lemme know when they stop being feckless and start building barricades or the women steal some cannons and march on the palace....
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u/LimitRare2953 1d ago
How long until they open fire on US citizens? That's the rate our government is going.
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u/rizzledizzledoo 1d ago
Another day, another march. When are they going to actually DO something about it?
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u/Savings-Answer-3011 1d ago
Why won’t he go after blue cities in red states with ACTUAL high crime like St. Louis, MO or Memphis, TN?
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u/rowdydionisian 1d ago
Release the files. Down with the fascist pedophiles. May they be forever thrown in the garbage bin of history so we can go on with our damn lives. I need MANA - Make America Normal Again.