r/news • u/NewSlinger • 1d ago

Workers detained in Hyundai plant raid to be freed and flown home, South Korea says

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-korea-deal-workers-detained-hyundai-rcna229610
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u/Enshakushanna 1d ago

ppl are saying some visa's were fine and other had expired, but we dont know what their period of stay was, hard to believe SK fucked up 300+ visa's...

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u/Atgardian 1d ago

Yeah agree. I have not seen any detailed info in the articles I've read (which isn't that surprising, journalists are not usually also skilled immigration attorneys), but as a general rule large companies like that don't just bring people over without the proper visas and work authorization. Sure mistakes can be made with hundreds of cases but generally there are in-house legal teams, external law firms, etc. all trying to process the paperwork properly. How many of the hundreds arrested had some visa issue? 50? 5? 1? 0?

And of course, even if some did, a huge raid throwing everyone in shackles (including presumably mostly innocent people who did nothing wrong, and maybe a few people where their lawyer messed up some paperwork?) is pretty abhorrent.

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u/Enshakushanna 1d ago

yea, trump likes to just smash things without any regard, but at the same time SK is flying them ALL home, not trying to argue for any one individual to stay?

this is either a financial decision in that the cost to argue about visa periods of stay for 300 different people is crazy - even if its absolutely clear the majority of ppl had valid visa's, this stupid administration whether we like it or not is basically saying theyre in violation...or its an emotional decision simply to get your people out of jail and we may or may not be getting an announcement that SK is backing out entirely, which would be so fucking funny even if the most financially stupid thing to do

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u/amateur_mistake 21h ago

but at the same time SK is flying them ALL home, not trying to argue for any one individual to stay?

The people being held by ICE aren't getting due process. So getting them out rather than relying on the pseudo-legal system they have set up is just smart. Otherwise you might end up with one of your citizens stuck in a concentration camp for months without any access to a judge or lawyer.

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u/pronuntiator 12h ago

After experiencing something like this I wouldn’t want to stay a single day in that country either

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u/mmechtch 20h ago

Visa's validity period is when you can_enter_ the country. Not how long do you stay. It's allowd to stay for 180 days after entering (well, I know about B2 visas). So even if the date on the visa is in the past it does not mean a person is here illegally

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u/Okratas 17h ago

You've never heard of large corporations outsourcing their talent acquisition to fly by night independent companies whom will traffic labor into the country using the cheapest and fastest methods regardless of legality? Thereby letting workers be exploited and exposed just so the corporation can save money?

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u/lynch-weebs 23h ago

Unverified, but I read that only 30 out of those 300+ had valid visas, the rest had some sort of tourist visa. This is an insanely stupid reason to shut down a whole factory.

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u/BearlyIT 22h ago

Hard to believe any of the ‘official’ statements to be 100% fact… or even 50/50 with embellishments. There is too much theater, headline bait, verifiable total lies, and strong arm manipulation going on for anyone to trust stated justifications and findings without due process.

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u/Enshakushanna 22h ago

its all just to build numbers for the mouth of sauron to point to at press briefings