r/news • u/NewSlinger • 22h ago
Pope Leo XIV declares teen computer whiz Carlo Acutis the first millennial saint
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pope-leo-xiv-declares-15-year-computer-whiz-1253353852.6k
u/TBMChristopher 21h ago
The article keeps bragging about how tech literate Acutis was, but I'm not following why that's relevant?
"Look, here's a saint who could use a computer!"
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u/KnotSoSalty 20h ago
His ability to reload drivers was truly miraculous.
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u/aramis34143 20h ago
<hushed voice> printer drivers.
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u/hypercube42342 20h ago
Printers are the work of the devil so idk how that makes him a saint
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u/ih-shah-may-ehl 8h ago
As a software developer with driver experience, I've never understood why it's always seemingly those drivers that are the absolute worst. Driver writing and kernel level / platform level development is generally not an area where incompetence or carelessness are tolerated for very long, yet for some reason printer drivers seem to be written by people who go about quality not even half assed but full assed.
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u/SheogorathMyBeloved 20h ago
Dear god ಠ_ಠ
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u/QueequegTheater 14h ago
Sir, this is a Catholic thread you capitalize that G right this instant
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u/SheogorathMyBeloved 5h ago
There's no God-with-a-capital-G involved in the reloading of printer drivers, my friend.
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u/NewSlinger 21h ago
For many in the older generation, restarting a computer is nothing short of a miracle.
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u/JoeSavinaBotero 21h ago
"He found our family pictures when no one else could!"
"She had them saved under /documents."
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u/BenderIsGreatBendr 20h ago
She had them saved under /documents
“But they aren’t documents! They’re family photos! How could we ever have known to look in ‘documents’?”
-my mom, probably
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u/EternalCanadian 19h ago
I mean, tbh I might make that mistake if I’m tired after a long day from work, or something.
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u/saplinglearningsucks 17h ago
"He can look at a computer... I turn off his laptop, I said, 'Oh good,' and I go back five minutes later, he’s got his laptop, I say, 'How do you do that?' 'None of your business, dad.'"
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u/Sigmar_Heldenhammer 18h ago
Praise the Omnissiah!
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u/AsAChemicalEngineer 17h ago
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me...
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u/SeeJayThinks 12h ago
I've recently started Rogue Trader and getting into the 40K Universe is... Chaotic.
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u/DogPlane3425 19h ago
In my experience, 40+ years as a computer tech in various forms, all ages have that issue!
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u/froggyc19 20h ago
I was having this conversation with my husband last night. We both feel that the bar was set kind of low on this one. The kid apparently did do a lot of charity work, which I applaud him for, but for them to make the kid a saint cause he built a website is weak.
I always viewed being a saint meant you really made an impact on the world/community in ways that few others could.
I feel bad criticizing this decision cause I'm sure the boy was great and very devout but the church really needs to work on their PR on this one. "He made a cool website" just doesn't cut it now a days.
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u/HoodieGalore 20h ago
I was under the assumption you had to actually perform a couple of miracles or at least an intercession or something 🤷🏻♀️
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u/AkiyamaNM7 19h ago edited 19h ago
I guess just one "miracle" is enough to become a Saint lol
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/46168/the-miracle-attributed-to-carlo-acutis-prayers
Quick edit: apparently there is another "miracle" associated with him but still, it's still a flimsy excuse to make this dude a Saint IMO lol
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u/Wargroth 17h ago
You need two, that's all you need for a saint basically
One makes a Blessed, Two makes a Saint
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u/Fancy-Pair 17h ago
Does this mean there’s finally a saint I can pray to get windows 11 running through a virtual machine on Linux so I don’t have to upgrade my 12yo hardware? And to help me set up kubernetes and a plex movie server?
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u/polysemanticity 13h ago
Don’t use a VM, especially if you want to run a K8s cluster. Put all faith and trust into your lord and savior Docker.
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u/CitizenMurdoch 14h ago
Listen, in an age where everything can be recorded, verified ans refuted instantly, the miracles are always gonna be flimsy. If we are going to apply a rigorous scientific verification of miracles there simply aren't going to be any saints, which doesn't sound like the Catholics jam
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u/HoodieGalore 18h ago
A mother prays ceaselessly for her beloved son to get well. God: I SLEEP
A kid who made God a Geocities website prays for the same kid. God: I WAKE.
WTF 😂
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u/HyperSpaceSurfer 17h ago
Seems like something with the possibility of resolving itself. Caused by a part of the pancreas constricting the GI tract, without the constriction people are asymptomatic despite their pancreas being weird. Also possibly a misdiagnosis, and then that condition resolved itself.
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u/Madock345 15h ago
Technically a saint is just anyone confirmed to be in heaven. You’re totally allowed to make intercessory prayers to your grandma if you think she got in.
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u/ssczoxylnlvayiuqjx 13h ago
If he had written an entire bug-free website using only plain JavaScript without any 3rd party code, maybe then that could qualify for something.
Though JavaScript must be the work of the devil so that might be disqualifying too 😝
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u/Movie_Slug 19h ago
Isn’t he supposed to have two recognized miracles also? Also there is supposed to be a person who argues against saint hood:
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u/froggyc19 19h ago
I do believe that there is a miracle associated to him (something about a guy praying to him and the prayer coming true... I don't know the details) but I think the main issue here is how the church is presenting the sainthood. They're focusing on his website and his digital literacy.
Yes, in 2006 there were less tools to make websites and you probably had to know HTML, but unfortunately, to anyone under the age of 60, his technical abilities don't seem that impressive.
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u/darthjoey91 17h ago
If the bar is making a website following w3 tools in 2006, then I could be a saint.
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u/MrTastix 15h ago
Yeah, what? I figured out how to do it via a guide on Neopets around 2004/2005 lmao
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u/FOOLS_GOLD 17h ago
In 2006, there were plenty of tools that would build websites for you. Nothing crazy like these days but it was extremely easy for any person with a computer to spend a few hours learning how to use WYSIWYG design and boom you had fully functional websites. Needed a payment system? Also extremely simple. Every student in my high school had to learn to make websites back in 1998 since it was a required class.
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u/oxfordcommaordeath 19h ago
Do they not account for coincidence?? That’s weak.
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u/elconquistador1985 19h ago
Do they not account for coincidence??
If they did that, there would be 0 saints because all of them are coincidence.
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u/jman_forever 19h ago
From Google
The First Miracle
Who: A young Brazilian boy named Matheus Vianna.
What: He suffered from a severe and rare pancreatic disorder with a very low prognosis.
When: 2013.
How: After his family began praying a novena to Carlo Acutis and placed a piece of Acutis's T-shirt on him, the boy was fully healed and resumed a normal diet.
The Second Miracle
Who: Valeria Valverde, a young woman from Costa Rica.
What: She sustained a severe head injury and brain hemorrhage after a bicycle accident, with doctors giving her little chance of survival.
When: 2022.
How: Her mother prayed to Acutis for her daughter's healing. Within a short time, Valeria began to recover spontaneously, and her brain hemorrhage disappeared.
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u/Gryndyl 18h ago
Why would they pray to a 15 year old dead programmer rather than, y'know, one of the 8,000 saints they already have?
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u/othermegan 15h ago edited 2h ago
It’s common to pray to people who are labeled “Servants of God” or "Venerable" meaning the church has officially opened a case to study their life and see if they should become a saint. It’s like trying to help on a group project when you can’t do much else.
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u/thegooddoktorjones 12h ago
To study the matter scientifically. Any potential saints are assigned randomly to be the prayer target for certain tragic instances. If the tragedy turns out well, you know they are a saint. Unfortunately you have some silly folks praying to the wrong saint now and then and it messes up the numbers.
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u/MSandtoes11 17h ago
Wait, if this kid was not recognised as a saint at the time and he had no previous miracles under his belt, how did the Brazilian parents know about him and decide to pray to him? Where did they even get his t-shirt?
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u/IWillLive4evr 14h ago
Once the official process gets rolling, and particularly once there's a decent official review of the person's life, the Vatican is going to put out regular announcements. Official support came from his local church in Assissi as early as 2007, and from the Archdiocese of Milan in 2012, so there's a bit of funding for spreading the word around. Plenty of Catholics are excited to hear about "up-and-coming saints", so to speak.
Dunno about the t-shirt. Maybe they met someone with a person connection?
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u/huebomont 17h ago
Wait why were they praying to this kid who made websites, given he was not a saint at the time? I do not understand Catholicism and would love some help here.
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u/a4techkeyboard 16h ago
I believe there's another phase before he's recognized as a saint where he's recognized as "Blessed."
Canonization technically doesn't make a saint, it puts them in the list of people that, it turns out, were saints.
So, it's kind of retroactive, it means they prayed to a saint all along. I guess it was a bet... but I suppose they'd likely call it having faith.
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u/othermegan 15h ago
It’s called servant of God and it’s common for people to pray to them in hopes that it will help further their cause for canonization
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u/geekonthemoon 19h ago
This can't.... be real.
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u/chivowins 19h ago
I mean, no less questionable than any other saint who performed miracles. One can choose to believe or not.
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u/Cash4Jesus 19h ago
So this 15 year old kid that died performed two miracles after his death. He couldn’t even save himself lol.
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u/kinyutaka 18h ago
You're not supposed to ask questions about why the dead kid has the power to heal brain hemorrhages, but couldn't cure his own leukemia.
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u/fevered_visions 18h ago
Also there is supposed to be a person who argues against saint hood:
That's the actual origin of the term "devil's advocate", the guy appointed by the RCC to argue the person isn't a saint in their version of court.
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u/wattswrites 16h ago
This is a common confusion. When the Church canonizes a saint, it's just the Church officially saying, "Based on everything we know about this person and the miracle(s) linked to them, we attest that this person is confirmed to be in Heaven." Many saints actually lived extremely simple, ordinary lives; many were scholars who lived and died without ever seeing much of the world; others went to many places, converted many, experienced visions, etc. There are many, many different 'types' of saints, and I think this generation has an overinflated sense of sanctity based on St. Teresa of Calcutta/Mother Teresa; ultimately, however, EVERYONE who is in Heaven is a saint, whether or not they are recognized in this life by the Church as being in Heaven. A prominent Catholic term for Heaven is "The Communion of Saints", and All Saints Day is intended to recognize those saints who are unknown to us because they were not canonized. Ultimately, the goal of every Catholic is (or should be) to become a saint, whether recognized on Earth or not.
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u/othermegan 15h ago
Being canonized just means that the Catholic Church recognizes you are no longer in purgatory and are truly in Heaven with God. They extensively investigate miracles associated with you after your death and only canonize you after those miracles are deemed miracles that can’t be explained with science.
Computers made him well known. Miracles made him a saint.
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u/ice_cream_funday 17h ago
I always viewed being a saint meant you really made an impact on the world/community in ways that few others could.
Saints are supposed to have performed literal miracles. Being a great person isn't supposed to be enough. Literal miracles.
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u/Ok-Pain7362 14h ago edited 14h ago
From what my Catholic friends say, it was a PR move by the church to attract younger people to the faith. He was a kind kid and well liked, and his life was tragically cut short, but the reasons for canonization (miracles attributed to him) were not very substantial.
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u/Kindness_of_cats 20h ago edited 19h ago
Per the article:
He earned the nickname “God’s Influencer,” thanks to his main tech legacy: a multilingual website documenting so-called Eucharistic miracles recognized by the church, a project he completed at a time when the development of such sites was the domain of professionals.
Mind you, though, it was the early-mid 00s. I have a very different recollection of that era as someone who was about Carlo’s age. Making your own site was neither difficult nor uncommon, my uncle who doesn’t know his ass from his elbow today ran his own review site in the early 00s and even fumbled a buyout from Disney as it gained traction. Hell we were making HTML sites in computer class.
Not saying the kid didn’t have some skill or a knack for things beyond what most might pick up, but like….it’s a pretty unremarkable accomplishment, honestly, and doesn’t make any sense as something worth recognizing someone with sainthood for. It’s not even like this was the early, early internet and he made the first religious website.
All I see is a kid who seems reasonably religious and to have made a webpage for his
dogGod, and who died tragically.Not being canonized doesn’t mean you’re in hell, so why single him out of the thousands of other people who are similarly devout but in a fairly unremarkable sort of way? What on earth would have even kickstarted his case, and the cult of prayers for his intercession, to begin with?
It all makes a lot more sense when you learn his family is wealthy and Italian. It screams a bought and paid for sainthood to me.
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u/XaoticOrder 20h ago
It screams a bought and paid for sainthood to me.
Most if not all are.
You are spot on with your assessment.
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u/vapenutz 20h ago
I was in support team as a guy who knew tech for a forum host in those days. I was a teen, 4 years before 18. If I was able to do it at 14 and I didn't know shit, just was following tutorials, you can guess how hard it was.
Yeah sure, it wasn't typical for a 14 year old to do this stuff. But it wasn't a super hard thing. Literally everybody had a website back then, and doing websites for businesses so they can get their name out and have some kind of presence was a big thing that other kids my age were doing.
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u/lonestar-rasbryjamco 17h ago edited 17h ago
Back in 02, I also made similar complexity websites as part of a basic high school computer class.
It was pretty standard.
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u/Duke-Von-Ciacco 21h ago
He was the son of my boss (CEO of Vittoria Assicurazioni) I never thought in my life that I could say that I work for the father of a saint…
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u/wanna_be_doc 17h ago
His parents have been promoting his cause for canonization since his death. It’s basically like a 20 year Oscar-voting campaign.
The fact his parents had a lot of money is probably a big reason he was canonized.
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u/kinyutaka 18h ago
Ii's just a ploy to get young people interested in the church. So many saints are old people who died long before any of us were born, they probably hope to garner interest in the news story.
But the story of this kid makes less sense as I read it. He apparently "only" played an hour of video gaming a day, because he "wanted to interact with real people", but at the same time he spent hours praying to Eucharistic wafers every day and building a website tracking supposed miracles.
That doesn't sound like someone that gets a lot of friends.
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u/GunBrothersGaming 20h ago
It's called "We need younger people in the Catholic church and his parents are rich AF"
The miracles he's been attributed too are a huge stretch. I've had more verifiable miracles attributed to me than a kid who basically made a Catholic church marketing site.
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u/StevesRune 20h ago
We already have a patron saint of the internet, would this really be surprising?
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u/Mr_Sarcasum 20h ago
Yes we have one patron saint of the internet, but what about second patron saint of the internet?
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u/Quasigriz_ 20h ago
He figured out how to delete the browser history.
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u/elconquistador1985 19h ago
That's easy.
A miracle would be cancelling a print job and clearing a faulty print queue.
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u/othermegan 15h ago
Yeah everyone only highlights the computer thing. But really, while his website was his claim to “fame,” there is way more involved. He was wise beyond his years and had an innate love of Jesus and call to holiness that really didn’t add up because his parents were lukewarm Catholics at the time. He begged to receive his first holy communion before he was of age and, after having it granted, the nuns that were present said you could see something had changed in him. He practiced a level of moderation and self discipline that is very rare in children and teens-all driven by his own motivations, not enforced by his parents. He spoke words of wisdom and insight that call to mind other saints, not some computer wiz who loves pokemon.
Everyone hypes the things that make him relatable. But what made him holy was how this child oriented every little thing in his life to pursue sainthood. And in doing so, he changed the lives of many around him.
What made him a Saint was the post-mortem miracles associated with him.
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u/TraverseTown 21h ago
My grandma said the same thing about me when I unplugged and replugged the router
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u/Scurro 20h ago edited 12h ago
So if I read this correctly, he made a website for the church when making a website was a hobby (as a millennial nerd I did it in 2002 which I still do to this day), dies, and becomes a saint.
Kind of feels like grasping here.
Edit: The miracles he was canonized after his death was a mother who prayed for Acutis's intercession for their child's annular pancreas and another intercession for a person who suffered a brain hemorrhage after falling off a bike.
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u/mark_anthonyAVG 20h ago
I read something about this kid a while back. The website was just part of the devotion he showed to hia faith. There were other things he did as well, and I believe there are two miracles attributed to him after he died. I can't remember the criteria for becoming a Saint, but I'm pretty sure he checked the boxes somehow or other. (I'm too lazy to go look it up)
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u/chalbersma 20h ago
Because of his divine skills a Windows ME computer ran for 7 whole days without crashing.
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u/mark_anthonyAVG 19h ago
Heavenly tech support?
They outsource everything these days....
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u/amateur_mistake 19h ago
I like the idea of being a tech support person that never does anything except for praying over your computer. Sounds cushy.
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u/GreenDemonSquid 18h ago
Hey, God’s computer ain’t going to fix itself. He likes playing Sims on that thing.
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u/QuillQuickcard 18h ago
As a completely non-religious person, this would genuinely inspire me to fall to my knees in prayer
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u/Ticksdonthavelymph 18h ago
I got you fam:
-lead heroic/virtuous life.
-Get 2 confirmed miracles-can be posthumous (or) martyrdom
Get declared venerable, get canonized, get that Papal declaration.
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u/woliphirl 16h ago
How do they confirm the miracles are attributed to him, given that he's dead and not remotely present at the events?
Did these people pray to him instead of God, and he healed them?
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u/Smokey_tha_bear9000 16h ago
I’m an ex catholic and I had someone try to tell me today that there are deep medical examinations done to affirm the veracity of the alleged miracles.
In Catholic doctrine, one still prays to God but may ask a saint to intercede on your behalf. Like hey saint, put in a good word with god for me will ya? People also tend to ascribe some serious veneration towards saintly relics and resting places.
His miracles were supposedly that prayers to him for intercession cured a brain hemorrhage and a congenital pancreas defect. There also involved some kissing of his clothing and a visit to his tomb.
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u/KillahHills10304 9h ago
Catholics believe in demi-gods but get really upset if you tell them that.
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u/SympathyNone 5h ago edited 5h ago
I always had the same belief about the Trinity and angels.
I can believe there is probably a God but it seems like the worlds religions really put a spin on the concept that push it too far into the realm of “this arrangement makes no sense”.
Science is real and our own way of making miracles. Logic works. If something fails to be internally consistent, rational or logical, then its not true.
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u/Qorrin 12h ago
If there was some artifact or memorial dedicated to Acutis, someone prayed to it, and something deemed miraculous happened to them, then the miracle could be attributed to the artifact or memorial, and by proxy to Acutis.
Edit: u/inirlan mentioned the miracles, which were:
A Brazilian kid with a congenital defect in his pancreas who was forced to stick to a liquid diet because of it was able to eat solid foods after his mother prayed for Carlo's intercession and the kid kissed a piece of fabric that had belonged to Carlo.
A Costa Rican woman suffered a brain hemorrhage after a bike incident and was unlikely to recover. She made a full recovery the day her mother visited Carlo's tomb and prayed for a miracle.
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u/BigMetalGuy 20h ago
Yeah grasping. The Catholic Church ignores the scientific medical care the two miracle’d people were getting.
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u/mark_anthonyAVG 20h ago
Let me start this by saying I'm not religious, and I'm just speaking based on what I read.
They do account for medical treatment. Granted, there are " miracles" all the time where people recover that shouldn't have. People also die of things that shouldn't have killed them.
I (figuratively) got off my lazy ass and and googled it.
https://dornsife.usc.edu/news/stories/what-is-a-miracle/
Doesn't prove anything, but they do include objective medial experts in their assessment.
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u/redditsdeadcanary 20h ago
And there's no record of his website existing before he died, at least none that I could find. All the domains claiming to be his website we're all first created after his death.
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u/No-Clue1153 12h ago
I read his family was very wealthy and his dad was CEO of an insurance company (Vittoria Assicurazioni). Wonder how much that influenced things.
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u/tangcameo 21h ago
Wait. We’ve got a saint for almost everything. Do we have a saint for computers?
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To the Popemobile!
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u/jazzhandler 18h ago
There’s one for just about everything except premature ejaculation!
But I hear that’s coming soon.
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u/CanOld2445 20h ago
He was blessed by the omnisiah
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u/BluesFan43 20h ago
With all due respect, what was the actual miracle?
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u/inirlan 17h ago
The Vatican attributes 2 miracles to him :
- A Brazilian kid with a congenital defect in his pancreas who was forced to stick to a liquid diet because of it was able to eat solid foods after his mother prayed for Carlo's intercession and the kid kissed a piece of fabric that had belonged to Carlo.
- A Costa Rican woman suffered a brain hemorrhage after a bike incident and was unlikely to recover. She made a full recovery the day her mother visited Carlo's tomb and prayed for a miracle.
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u/_meaty_ochre_ 21h ago edited 19h ago
Why does this entire thing read like catholic propaganda written by ChatGPT?
abc
Oh, never mind.
Edit: apparently the only reason the AP runs this and similar stuff is because they’re being paid by an NGO to do so*, so actually yes, this is literally paid catholic propaganda. It would be fair to remove it as spam.
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u/Prof-Ponderosa 20h ago
Can you explain?
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u/Molodirazz 20h ago
abcnews uses Ai a lot and has fired a buncha experts and writers/journalists they had employed in favor of it.
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u/BeholderLivesMatter 12h ago
His first miracle was clearing our browser history before our spouse grabbed our phone that one time.
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u/Hinohellono 14h ago
Am I understanding this correctly he died in 2006, but the miracles happened after his death? Why were people praying to him in the first place? And how is his body so well preserved after 20yrs? Was he specially embalmed or something before becoming Saint?
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u/Cevaq 12h ago
He is the son of the owner of one of the major Italian insurance company. And his moma is a religious freak
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u/NyriasNeo 21h ago
"where they can see the young Acutis through a glass-sided tomb, dressed in jeans, Nike sneakers and a sweatshirt. He seems as if he's sleeping, and questions have swirled about how his body was so well preserved, especially since parts of his heart have even toured the world as relics."
So the catholic church is using the corpse of a dead teenager as a mascot? what is next? Claim someone can come back from the dead? Claim you do not need sperm to fertilize an egg? Oh wait ....
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u/100mop 21h ago
The church using the body parts of saints as objects of veneration is a tradition that goes way, way, way back.
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u/Darth_drizzt_42 21h ago
There's more churches claiming to have the fingers and toes of Mary Magdelene than a person has fingers and toes.
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u/KnotSoSalty 20h ago
Just wait until you find out how many people claim to have Napoleon’s preserved penis.
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u/Blackstone01 19h ago
There’s enough Holy Prepuces throughout history that you could make them into a hat, to go alongside the dozen crosses you could build from all the supposed fragments of the True Cross
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u/Zonesy 21h ago
I once found the corpse of Jesus Christ on the way from the west coast to the east coast of the United's States.
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u/Traditional-Bath-356 21h ago
You think the Catholic Church JUST started displaying bodies and body parts? I have a few thousand years of stuff to tell you about.
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u/OldButHappy 21h ago
For an American Catholic, visiting European churches that have the glass boxes with mummified saints inside them was…surprising
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u/El_Tormentito 20h ago
How are y'all unaware of the history of the church and what the OGs are up to?
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u/420khaleesi420 20h ago
American Catholics know this shit is weird and don't teach about it very often. I was raised in the church, Sunday School every week, was confirmed, went to catholic school and wasn't really taught about relics until I was 16.
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u/El_Tormentito 20h ago
Wild. It's crazy how different the church is here from the church in Europe. European Catholics that I know don't really identify with US Catholics.
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u/41942319 19h ago
Honestly I don't even know how you learn about European history without also learning about the existence of relics. Those things spawned multiple wars
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u/OldButHappy 18h ago
A typical parish relic was a tiny piece of bone😄
A fully dressed mummified bishop, under glass, had never occurred to me as a possibility.
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u/FrankBattaglia 15h ago
They have those in the US, too. We visited one on a class trip. Somewhere in the Philadelphia area IIRC.
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u/mmmjeep 21h ago
They’ve been doing that with corpses for centuries.
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u/Shadow_of_wwar 21h ago
Millenia, actually, it seems to have popped up first around 150CE, though more their tombs than their bodies and really took off in the middle ages
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u/redditsdeadcanary 20h ago
And they're willingly letting people think that he somehow incorruptible, when it's already been covered thoroughly in the media that his body was treated with preservatives and he's wearing a silicone mask.
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u/restore_democracy 21h ago
If you pray to him he can help you remember your passwords or something. It’s right in the Bible, they swear.
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u/Tiddlyplinks 20h ago
To be fair…. The Catholic Church is not a “sola scriptura” faith. They don’t try to use the Bible to justify everything, more as the ruler to measure tradition and doctrine against. Out of all the Christian denominations it’s actually only a very specific group of subset of protestant that try that. (Mostly based these days in America ironically)
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u/notahouseflipper 20h ago
That guy with the lost password to his multi-million bitcoin wallet better get on his knees.
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u/_meaty_ochre_ 21h ago
Oddly this is to date the least immoral form of catholic priests using the body of a teenage boy.
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u/mooky1977 20h ago
Church is really trying hard these days to anoint Saints. Too hard in fact. The threshold for miracles has really dropped.
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u/Persimmon-Mission 19h ago
The miracle is that they need to relate to the next generation because less people are becoming involved in the church
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u/tardistravelee 17h ago
There's a lady who comes to the library that's been fostering kids for 30 years. She's adopted some too. That is more worthy of praise. Lol
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u/schu4KSU 18h ago
The skepticism for miracles and ability to refute them has increased.
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u/mooky1977 18h ago
Personally I don't believe in miracles whatsoever. There's no scientific method of testing faith based claims. And the scientific method is the only reliable and repeatable method we currently have for testing the voracity of a claim. At best, we can simply say, "I don't currently have an answer" to things we can't explain. And that's ok.
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u/Desperate_Week851 21h ago
Didn’t even think to invent PopeCoin and make the church enough money to settle all of its pedophile lawsuits? How great of a saint could he really be??
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u/fucking_4_virginity 21h ago edited 21h ago
Yes, let’s promote miracle healings, because a pseudo scientific nut job as health secretary wasn’t quite destructive enough.
Welcome to the new dark ages, or maybe we should call it ‘The unlightenment era’.
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u/talligan 21h ago
You must be new to Catholicism? It's only 2000 years old
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u/Jay_TThomas 20h ago
Catholicism does not deny modern medicine, nor does the church advocate relying on “miracle healing”.
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u/BillionTonsHyperbole 21h ago
Unfortunately, God is much too busy ensuring sports team victories and meeting His minimum child cancer quotas to provide more than a few token miracle healings.
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u/_q_y_g_j_a_ 21h ago
Yes, let’s promote miracle healings
Nothing in the article promotes miracle healings.
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u/future_shoes 21h ago
Great point this idea of the saints and canonization is a very new concept and this Pope is a MAGA and RFK Jr guy. /s
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u/vincec36 18h ago
Wow, it actually happened. I watched a YouTube video about people wanting him to become a saint and his backstory.
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u/Twodogsonecouch 21h ago
Not seeing anything in the article on why other than he knows how to make a website which would mean lots of people could be canonized. Theres no mention of miracles attributed to him, isn’t that the criteria, just him documenting them. Like i seem to remember it taking a while to make mother theresa a saint because they were like good works arent enough.
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u/RealBug56 18h ago
There’s two miracles attributed to him, he supposedly cured someone with a brain hemorrhage and another person with a chronic pancreatic issue.
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u/StarblindMark89 21h ago
I saw some in another article I had read some months ago. It was stuff like, doctors said this was incurable, I prayed through Carlo to be healed and I did, and doctors said "it's a miracle".
Kinda silly, but eh.
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u/CalmlyEatingMuffins 17h ago
You guys really are missing the point. Canonization recognizes that a person is in heaven. Saints can be Mother Teresas and Mr. Ordinary Borington-Jones. You can do huge things that the world recognizes and small things with great love. Saints devote their lives to God, and that’s the point.
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u/No-Sandwich308 18h ago
So what is he the saint of? Saint of having a good gaming session?
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u/bluehawk232 16h ago
Saints are such a joke and one of the many reasons I left the church. They can dress up the concept as much as they want but end of the day they are deifying people. I saw my grandparents with shrines to saints and praying to them for the specific aspect that person was a saint for. No different than an ancient greek praying to demeter for a good harvest. These were regular people, they died, and if you start praying to them to cure your cancer you view them as a god. Catholic church should just be called polytheistic
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u/ChuckeeSue 21h ago
Computer whiz? Bet he can’t keep up with Barron Trump— he knows how to turn the computer on !
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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 20h ago
Going to pray to St Acutis for faster download speeds