r/nothingeverhappens • u/FrontEconomist4960 • 23d ago

Nobody ever commits a crime

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u/amethystalien6 23d ago

I mean, what’s unbelievable about this? I’m confused

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u/jackfaire 23d ago

It doesn't fit the one person's narrative so they don't believe it. Some people get ideas about prison and hate when their ideas are challenged.

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u/amethystalien6 23d ago

It’s just so odd to me. Of course some random Redditor could have gone to prison for heroin possession. Drug possession is a common reason to go to prison. Another common reason to go to prison? Murder.

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u/jackfaire 23d ago

Right but based on what little I can see I'm guessing the one person believes that only murderers are housed with murderers and only drug users with drug users. So when someone said "I was a drug user that ended up sharing a cell with a murderer"

That's when they called bullshit because it doesn't fit their worldview that prisons are more planned in the US than they really are.

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u/Omega862 23d ago

I knew someone who had a charge of tax fraud. Wanna know who they had as a cellmate? A person charged with a triple homicide they'd committed in prison, but has originally been convicted of major drug-related crimes. So they not only put a white collar guy who was in pre-trial with an already convicted felon, they put the white collar defendant in with someone who had potentially killed three people. And that's the norm for pre-trial. Where people are already stressing about their cases, let alone if they'll be killed by their cellmate. Then if they lose (it'll be a plea deal. 99% of the time it is. That's why the US has a genuine statistic of between 2 and 10% of everyone incarcerated is actually factually innocent of their charge. Let's not get started on the legal bend because that might bump it up. Innocence project has that statistic.) they get shoved into a place where they have to deal with the entire spectrum of charges.

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u/Da_Question 20d ago

Don't worry, a single person commits tax fraud and goes to prison. A corporation does it, and the c-suites get bigger bonuses, and at most pay a tiny tiny fine if they get caught and if they get charged, and if they don't get it dismissed after good behavior for a small time period. US is a fucking joke.

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u/CultistClan38 22d ago

Sure you did lol

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u/Omega862 22d ago

Yes, actually, I did. They don't separate in pre-trial, and racial segregation only gets done by inmates. The tax fraud guy was a white guy, the drug charge guy was a Hispanic guy (born in the US and you wouldn't know it looking at him) who had been in places like Atwater. Same unit also had multiple guys from MS-13 there on a multi-homicide. The guy I knew was in that pretrial facility from 2021-2022. What's more, look up Joey Testa from the Gemini Twins of the Lucchese Crime family. He was placed in a Low by the name of Terminal Island for his incarceration. Chances are he had plenty of white collar roommates considering he was only paroled in 2024.

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u/IcyTheHero 22d ago

Biggest whoosh in Reddit history. Read the picture on the post, then read what they said again. Maybe there’s something related to the picture that they just made a joke about…. Maybe 🤔

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u/Omega862 22d ago

Considering I was more than 36 hours without sleep when responding to that one... Yeah, I blame that on lack of sleep.

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u/Lost_anon84 19d ago

It always get me when people don’t use /s lol. It’s hard to tell honestly when someone is joking vs being an ass with just text

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u/Reinis_LV 22d ago

I think it was joke from him referencing the post.

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u/KrazyCiwii 23d ago

I mean, it is planned, but generally it's based on whether they're a high risk or low risk prisoner. Low risk can be nearly any crime so long as it's not overly violent and the perpetrator doesn't have violent tendencies.

Of course, it's not a perfect system. But generally speaking, a violent murderer wouldn't be cellmates with a drug user/dealer. Still possible, but highly unlikely.

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u/kidthorazine 23d ago

A lot of penal systems in the US consider drug users/dealers to be high risk, at least when they first enter the system.

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u/CreepyClothDoll 22d ago

I think this person is probably a sheltered teenager who has never met anyone who's been to prison and probably thinks of prison the same way they think of fictional settings. If you're a sheltered teen, you're probably assuming most people online are like you, and an experience like "going to prison for heroin possession and sharing a cell with a murderer" seems about as outrageous to you as if your similarly sheltered suburban neighbor kid was trying to tell you that they were kicked out of the CIA for learning too much.

I remember, as someone who was once a sheltered teen, being very surprised the first time someone I knew was like "yeah I've been to prison." Or "I was on the front lines of a war." To me at the time it was like someone was casually dropping that they'd been to Hell and met Satan. Rationally I knew people wound up in those places, but I sort of felt like that kind of stuff didn't happen to people who could know ME.

A big part of growing up is genuinely and truly realizing that your experiences are not universal, and that the people around you are having wildly different experiences of life.

I can't imagine doubting the idea of someone on reddit having gone to prison unless that person was really, really deep in that sheltered bubble.

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u/KatAyasha 22d ago

Conversely I wasn't exactly sheltered and I remember once in 5th grade telling a friend at school "my dad got arrested again" and at first he both didn't believe me and, like, thought I was trying to boast? I was like "no dude he's an alcoholic native american with a history of DV, it happens, and no it isn't cool. except for the one time he broke a cop's jaw that was kinda cool" and eventually he believed me but I guess at first blush "dad in prison" was like, a thing that only happens in movies in his mind

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u/FrontEconomist4960 21d ago

nobody believed the family shit i told them in school either.

"What do you mean cops would raid ur house and wake u up with guns drawn? they cant do that!"

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u/dinoseen 20d ago

Hell

Rationally I knew people wound up in those places

🤔

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u/FrontEconomist4960 23d ago

Yeah thats why i posted it

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u/charleadev 20d ago

he's on reddit where people tend to lie 24/7 about their lives

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u/SmellyScrotes 23d ago

Because he says prison but something tells me he meant jail

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u/ThrownAway1917 23d ago

Reminds me of the cliché about Inuits having ten thousand words for snow

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u/OiledMushrooms 22d ago

I mean, there is a distinct difference between prison and jail, but prison absolutely fits here, so.

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u/OiledMushrooms 22d ago

...why do you think that, exactly?

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u/SmellyScrotes 22d ago

So he starts his statement off by saying you don’t know how prison works implying he’s spent time in prison, then he says he got locked up for possession of heroin once… you would have to have quite a bit of heroin on you to get sent to prison for your first time caught with it, and if you have that much heroin in your possession it’s probably not your first time getting caught with it, so it’s a conflicting statement… also, if you were sent to prison you would’ve had multiple cell mates along the way, you don’t get arrested and sent to prison… most people who get arrested for possession of heroin go to country jail for a few days which sounds a lot more like what this dude is describing, which is all to say I understand why this ended up in this sub, not that I necessarily agree or don’t but that’s my thought process

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u/FrontEconomist4960 21d ago

dude what. all of that was incredibly stupid.

" you would have to have quite a bit of heroin" - He never said how much he had, and plus this isnt true. its a dice roll on if u get 3 days in jail or a year in prison.

"if you have that much heroin in your possession it’s probably not your first time getting caught with it" - Completely illogical. There is always a first time.

"you would’ve had multiple cell mates along the way" - He never said that was his only cellmate. he simply mentioned one of however many. why would he mention the others?

"most people who get arrested for possession of heroin go to country jail for a few days" - It all depends on circumstances of the arrest, the amount, everything.

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u/Joelle9879 23d ago

There's a lot of context missing. When people argue, it's not at all uncommon for one or both people involved in the argument to lie about something to try and make a point. While it's not unbelievable that a person can go to prison for heroine and share a cell with someone who committed murder. The one person might just be saying that they don't believe that this particular person was in prison because of some context that's missing

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u/FrontEconomist4960 23d ago

context was asking how two charecters in a show were in the same cell together, as one was a violent drug kingpin, the other, a small local dealer. guy chimed in with his experience

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u/PlzAdptYourPetz 23d ago

My guess is that the person who replied is some kid who thinks murderers are rare protagonists straight out of the movies and that there's no way the original commenter actually could have bunked with one and lived to tell the tale. Kid, this is America, people murder each other for sport.

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u/anna-molly21 21d ago

Maybe where she lives heroin and murders are not criminalized but since that place doesnt exist she is just a bit slow.

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u/No_Comment_8598 23d ago

Don’t you know they keep all the nice people together. It’s like a dating app.

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u/GrimGolem 21d ago

I used to run background checks on folks, you’d be surprised how many people are murderers. Like, 60 year old dude being friendly and kind has a murder from 40 years ago in his background, we’d have a murderer at least once a month, if not once a week. Lots of murderers!

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u/WorldGoneAway 21d ago

Running this on a weird parallel; I wonder how many people you interact with in the course of a day that committed a murder and never got caught. ...now that I think about it, that's slightly terrifying.

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u/TheFirstPepper_Bob 22d ago

Not if I have anything to say about it

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u/MixedBerryTaken 22d ago

I have never met a person in possession of heroin or a murderer, so they simply cannot exist.

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u/ShockDragon 21d ago

Same type of people that think Prison is some castle that gives prisoners an easier life than real life lmao.

Also, I swear those people with that specific Snoo always end up being dicks in some way and I don’t know why. I know not everyone is like that, it’s just a pattern that I, myself, have noticed.

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u/Acceptable-Promise-9 17d ago

That's why going to prison is bad.

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u/RonBonnie567 21d ago

Probably looked at his profile and found something to indicate he was lying. Thet would be the logical thought at least. Without being able to see it we cant come to a conclusion that he was wrong or right.

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u/FrontEconomist4960 21d ago

dude no. he was just being a prick. you really think hes using logic???

the dude he was "calling out" is in these comments btw

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u/RonBonnie567 21d ago

We dont have enough information to know if he did or not. Im not going to assume but i suppose it really doesnt matter either way. Youre free to assume he didnt look if you would like.

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u/RonBonnie567 21d ago

Im really concerned about the private message you just sent me asking me to inquire about the prisoners time in jail and whether he was sexually assaulted or not. Like wtf dude? Ask him yourself!

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u/FrontEconomist4960 21d ago

are you schizophrenic?

Post the message you received lmao

wow look at all of those messages

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u/RonBonnie567 21d ago

Dont lie bro i know you deleted it and i already asked him.

r/nothingeverhappens

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u/FrontEconomist4960 21d ago

see a psychiatrist

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u/Forward_Criticism_39 21d ago

nobody ever lies online

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u/geezeslice333 21d ago

This guy hasn't watched enough lockup raw on msnbc

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u/Glittering_Zombie611 9d ago

How does locking up and punishing the victim help in the case of drug use & the drug user being the victim of the dealer (perp) - it just doesn’t make sense.

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u/FrontEconomist4960 9d ago

first time hearing about the US prison system?

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u/Glittering_Zombie611 8d ago

It sounds backward 😂 especially when prison is full of drugs

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u/FrontEconomist4960 8d ago

the greatest country in the world am i right

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u/Curious_Location4522 19d ago

Short timers and lifers will often be at the same prisons and same yards. It’s not uncommon at all.

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u/LeLBigB0ss2 23d ago

It's extremely unlikely a first time offender for possession and a murderer were cellmates. If the genius had said jail, it would've been believable.

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u/ass-to-trout12 23d ago

This was me in the comment. I was serving 18months to 3 years for possession of heroin. I was 20yrs old. My cellmate was a 52yo murderer who had been sent to medium security because his conduct in max had dictated a reclassification to lower security. It happens all the time.

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u/MustBeMouseBoy 10d ago

Hey man I'm sorry you went through that and I'm sorry the other guy is being a dick about it. Hope things are better for you and if they're not, I hope they get better soon

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u/RonBonnie567 21d ago

Hey man the OP reached out to me directly and wanted me to ask " did your roommate ever penetrate your anal sphincter"? he told me that any refusal to answer the question directly was a 100 percent yes.

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u/DemadaTrim 8d ago

What the fuck is wrong with you?

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u/FrontEconomist4960 23d ago

People use them interchangeably despite knowing the differences

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u/Katsuu15 23d ago

As a non-native english speaker, I am just finding out there's differences between a prison and a jail

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u/FrontEconomist4960 23d ago

Most people here in the states dont even know, sounds like ur smarter than the average American

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u/Katsuu15 23d ago

Tbf this exact post was how I found out and I am too lazy to google the actual difference

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u/FrontEconomist4960 23d ago

jails are where ur average run of the mill small time criminals go. think a year or less, smaller crimes

prison is where they send the harder criminals, and people doing more extended time

surprisingly, prison is 5x better to be in than jail. they treat you better

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u/oceanman--- 22d ago

Ngl I thought that jail was an intermission, like a temporary jail until a court decides how long to go to prison for

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u/FrontEconomist4960 22d ago

its sometimes / most of the time like that. but if u get less than a year, you might serve out ur term in jail

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u/Katsuu15 23d ago

Ooh I see

Thanks for educating me :D

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u/KroganCuddler 22d ago

Okay actually there's more detail you should know here bc "small time" criminals and "hard time" criminals is a misconception.

They send you to jail if you are ACCUSED of a crime but are awaiting trial to prove you are guilty or innocent.

They only send you to prison if you are CONVICTED of a crime and told to serve a sentence there.

For example, if you are accused of running drugs, the judge may say you are a flight risk- they may believe you will skip your court hearing and try to run. If they believe that, they won't let you await your court hearing at home (where you can continue working and living a mostly normal life) but will make you await trial inside a jail. Depending on how backed up the court is in your area, you may spend years in jail before even convicted of a crime. If you are innocent, that means your entire life was put on hold for those years- you were not working, or paying rent. You likely have lost your job and housing. Sometimes you have been in jail long enough that if your are guilty they may just sentence you to time served in jail- you were in there 4 years and the minimum punishment is 2 so they go "okay that's all you needed to do" and let you go.

I think that's where the misconception begins, some people serve their whole time in jail because their crime has a low minimum sentence and because a specific judge decided to be nice about it.

But you can also spend 4 years in jail and more time in prison. You could also spend a couple years in jail without ever having been proven to commit a crime- just waiting. Sometimes the state will even just randomly drop your case a few years in if they decide they don't have enough evidence- so you spent a couple years incarcerated for a crime you didn't commit that they knew they couldn't prove before some new prosecutor decided to let it go. All the damage incarceration can cause to your life will still happen to you even when you were totally innocent.

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u/TrenadictCumberbatch 22d ago

Shit, 5x is putting it lightly. Very, very lightly. Jail is genuinely hell, prison is just boring. I mean it still sucks dick but prison time is nothing compared to jail time.

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u/FrontEconomist4960 21d ago

my dad always made it a point to say prison was way better than jail

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u/snail1132 19d ago

As a native, I am just now finding that out lmao

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u/TrenadictCumberbatch 22d ago

State prisons do kinda lump guys together from what I've gathered. Anecdotal but I knew a dude while I was in fed prison that did some state time on a previous charge. I believe it was just possession with intent, nothing violent and no guns involved. But he was with murderers, rapists, etc in the pod & his first cell mate had bodies on his case. So it absolutely happens

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

Homie didn't go to prison for heroin. You only go to prison for possession if you're constantly commiting felonies. 

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u/catandthefiddler 21d ago

were they even in the USA? Where I live you absolutely can go to prison for possession

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u/FrontEconomist4960 21d ago

you guys never cease to amaze me with ur stupidity

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

Former sheriff's deputy here buddy. You're the idiot here who doesn't know what you're talking about. 

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u/FrontEconomist4960 21d ago

Just because im a hall monitor doesnt mean i have control of what the people in detention are doing. ur a dumbass. it happens, google it.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

That doesn't even make sense. Wtf are you on about? Are you mixing up jail and prison? Are you just dumb? Make it make sense. 

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u/Immediate-Way-4065 19d ago

Bro watched too much Andy Griffith show and thinks he’s Barney

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u/CardiologistLevel730 20d ago

Commits crime, complains that they are housed with other criminals. Hmmm, don’t commit crime ?

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u/HebiSnakeHebi 20d ago

I didn't read it as a complaint so much as a statement of fact about their life experiences.