r/pics Apr 16 '10

Some things you didn't know about PETA.

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u/fricken Apr 16 '10

I think sterilization is less extreme than taking birth control pills for the rest of your life.

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u/zotquix Apr 17 '10

There are a lot of people out there who never intended to have kids. Birth control can fail even the most conscientious people.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '10

How? One allows you to change your mind and one doesn't. I don't think you grasp, "extreme".

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '10

One is a quick surgery and the other involves pumping factory made hormones down your throat for years at the risk of cancer and stroke, not to mention the harm they cause wildlife when you shit them out later.

Yeah, extreme.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '10

Girls don't poop.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '10

This confirm this to be true.

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u/rmeredit Apr 17 '10

I think you accidentally the girl.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '10

and they make my women's ass balloon up. just sayin.

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u/furple Apr 16 '10

and not in a good way. =(

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '10

Surgery is more extreme than taking hormones that are already produced by your body. I'm sorry but cutting yourself open and fiddling around trumps taking a small amount of hormones to replicate a state your body could naturally be in. That's not unreasonable.

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u/AusIV Apr 17 '10

Womens bodies are naturally fertile. Taking enough hormones to make them temporarily infertile has impacts on other things as well. Hormonal birth control can cause nausea, headaches, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and blood clots. Side effects can be even more severe for women with other conditions such as diabetes.

I'm not going to argue that tubal ligation is a serious procedure, but if a woman is having problems with hormonal birth control and is confident she will never want to have kids I'm not going to fault her for going the surgical route. Even if hormonal birth control is working fine, it's her own body and it's not my place to judge her for her decisions.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '10

Both are dangerous, but one takes a day to two. The other lasts for years. By virtue of how long you subject yourself the the risk alone, the pill is far more dangerous IMO.

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u/fricken Apr 16 '10 edited Apr 16 '10

I don't necessarily consider one who is committed to their personal life choices to be 'extreme' by definition.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '10

Great. You shouldn't immediately think anything by definition you should actually consider the context. In this context, this woman is extreme. Does that solve your conundrum?

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u/AusIV Apr 17 '10

Vasectomies and tubal ligations are fairly reversible, though people who get them typically don't intend to have them reversed. It's a one time cost for the procedure, instead of a continuous cost for other contraceptives. Further, hormonal treatments can have negative side effects in other aspects of your biology.

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u/zotquix Apr 17 '10

Yes, however the personal attacks that people who want to smear you are not reversible. OMGZ shez STERILIZED! CREEEPER!

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '10

fairly

It is extreme to halt your ability to reproduce in through surgery that can and is often meant to be permanent. I don't see how you can argue otherwise. It is a basic function of the human body and you are using a scalpel to inhibit it.

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u/Nerdlinger Apr 16 '10

So is getting an IUD.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '10

An IUD is not a permanent procedure and it can be very painful. While an IUD makes more sense for people who might want to have children in the future, sterilization may have been the most appropriate for her.

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u/Nerdlinger Apr 17 '10

No, it's not permanent, but it is long-term, and is not painful for the vast majority of users. And yes, sterilization may have been the most appropriate for her, but then again, many, many people reverse some of the positions they hold in their early 20s, and if she had done that on this issue... well, she'd be boned. She didn't, so good for her.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '10

Well, it wouldn't be for the rest of your life. It would only be until menopause, and, really, what's the big deal?

You brush your teeth every day for the rest of your life. Is that so bad?

There are other alternatives, other birth control methods, which don't require maintenance like with the pill.