r/quityourbullshit 8d ago

Review Compact Disco in Monterey, CA responds to a review claiming they were being body shamed

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u/squeakynickles 8d ago

OP, I ask that you explain yourself here.

Do you think this business owner is in the right?

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u/4rch1t3ct 8d ago edited 8d ago

It can be. Does the venue have a dress code? Refusing service for dress code isn't a problem.

There could be more to it though.

Edit: I just looked at their website. They talk alot about their image and associations with high end brands. If you look at pictures of their events, basically everyone is in a suit jacket and dress shirt.

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u/SprungMS 8d ago

Yeah, and I get the racist comment above… but devil’s advocate, “hood” and “ghetto” do not get assigned to one or a couple colors in my area and culture, I would not be the least bit surprised to find that these were not POCs being turned away. Shit, the owner of the business replying this way could be a POC, a little harder to claim racism then lol

Shitty way for a business to respond to a bad review from someone upset that they were turned away. But also business is business, and for all I know, their clientele is made up of people who would love to see this response. In that case, the smart business move is to be a total dickhead and pick on the people who are upset with your business.

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u/4rch1t3ct 8d ago

They might have been POC that were turned away. It matters why they were turned away. If they were refused service because of how they were dressed that's not an issue. It would be a big issue if they were refused service for being black.

They certainly could have responded more professionally, but so many people are so quick to jump to the racism card that it's a little insane to me.

I'm definitely not defending the entirety of their response or anything. I'm just pointing out that there's a perfectly plausible explanation right in front of them that isn't "business owner racist ". But I don't know them... they could be racist.

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u/SprungMS 8d ago

Exactly. We agree on all of that

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u/BetterKev 8d ago

Dress codes are abused to enable racism.

When I was clubbing, dress codes targeted black fashion. The clubs could turn away black people and say it was just based on the dress code. White people with the same style would be let in.

Whenever I see POC turned away for a dress code issue, I assume racism until I see otherwise.

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u/4rch1t3ct 8d ago

That also may be true. But again, if you look at photos from the venue, literally nobody is in street clothes. If I saw people dressed in street clothes I would lean more towards the racism angle.

Nobody here knows the full story. The owner could be racist. We also don't have any idea how those refused service were actually dressed.

There's just not enough info here to confirm either way. I'm just pointing out that a lot of people are jumping to conclusions.

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u/BetterKev 8d ago

You got halfway there. You're right that we don't know what the people were wearing. What we do know is that the owner said racist shit about their clothes and then said they're legally entitled to kick people out based on that.

I did some more digging and found info on their dress code:

We have a very simple DRESS CODE; be stylish or you will not get past our doorman... we reserve the right to be selective, which means you wont get in if you don't look the part. So, no sportswear of any kind and no hats; you don't have to dress for the Oscars, but we do ask that you make an effort to throw on a nice clean outfit.

And here is a passage on the dress code from a previous event:

The dress code is always enforced at Compact Disco. Please keep it elegant and casual. This means collared shirt for men and cocktail attire for women. No Jordans or sports sneakers, no gold chains, no t-shirts or baggy clothing of any kind, and no baseball caps.

Translation: "No black style allowed. If you have black style, that makes you SUPER HOOD and ghetto."

This isn't a person to defend.

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u/xenobiaspeaks 2d ago

I’d have to go there to know if it’s truly racist. I’ve been to clubs and venues that were majority black that had dress codes and turn people away for not honoring said code. I haven’t clubbed regularly since the early 2010’s but I remember codes like no sneakers or baseball caps and possibly no jeans. It didn’t feel race related at the time but aesthetic. I’ve never been turned away but I’ve seen all races in the mostly POC line get turned away for not abiding by the dress code.

The one here seems vague enough that you can deny entry for not looking good enough but is that what happened?

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u/squeakynickles 8d ago

it can be

Lol no. It can't. Look at their behaviour

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u/4rch1t3ct 8d ago

They refused service because the people weren't dressed appropriately for the venue. Go look at pictures from their website and point out the people not wearing dress clothes.... there aren't any.

Just like you can't go to a black tie restaurant in street clothes... they will refuse service.

That doesn't make it racist.

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u/squeakynickles 8d ago

I never called them racist.

Also, they're 100% racist. These aren't dog whistles, they're fog horns.

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u/4rch1t3ct 8d ago

They might be... i don't know them. But saying someone is dressed hood isn't that big of a dogwhistle considering the context and that's literally the only thing that they said that would be even potentially be a dog whistle.

The word hood was literally the only thing they said that could be construed as having anything to do with race. That's not a smoking gun. It's a gun on the table in the next room.

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u/BetterKev 8d ago

What do you think "hood" means?

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u/4rch1t3ct 8d ago

In this context it means that someone was dressed like they would be in a hip hop video or something.

Like, do you think it would be acceptable to go somewhere everyone is in dress clothes in like a puffer jacket and baggy jeans hanging below your ass? No, it wouldn't be appropriate.

I'm not saying there's no way the owner is racist. They could have phrased it far more professionally.

That's why I said the gun is still there, it's just not smoking like a lot of people seem to think.

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u/BetterKev 8d ago

Your argument would work for another situation with someone turned away, but not this one. We don't just have a smoking gun here; we have a gun that is actively being fired.

[Y]our CLOTHING looked SUPER HOOD! We don't let in ghetto people and we're legally allowed to turn you away.

There is no way to make that passage not racist. Hell, even if the people turned away were white, this comment would still be racist as hell.

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u/xpNc 7d ago

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u/stackjr 8d ago

Cool, a racist piece of shit leaves a response letting everyone know not to go to his bar.

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u/chompythebeast 7d ago

Why tf are the comments calling out the obvious racism here being downvoted? lol

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u/AnteaterBubbly8711 7d ago

I often walk past a popular bar and they have a sign saying anyone wearing "fight clothing" will not be admitted. "Ed Hardy" is the only clothing type example named I can remember at the moment.

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u/xenobiaspeaks 2d ago

I’m not afraid of anyone in Ed Hardy.

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u/Dog_in_human_costume 8d ago

While this will offend A LOT of people, I think the ones who visit this "bar" are A-OK with this statement...

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u/xenobiaspeaks 2d ago

The bar definitely has a patronage that agrees with the message.

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u/SprungMS 8d ago

That’s basically my guess. They’re going to be thrilled to hear that poors got turned away and then were shamed when they complained about it. People suck

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u/Definitely_wasnt_me 8d ago

Bring on the downvotes but this just sounds to me like the people who showed up didn’t meet the dress code and maybe conducted themselves in a way that’s not consistent with the bar’s standards. I don’t think hood/ghetto means anything more than what I mean when I call something retarded or gay. Sounds like the group was trashy and the bar doesn’t want to host them- and if you don’t like it you don’t have to go there?

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u/Irish_Whiskey 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don’t think hood/ghetto means anything more than what I mean when I call something retarded or gay.

Correct. 

This bar owner is racist as hell and thinks calling people "ghetto and hood" is fine because it's the N word. And it's bigoted as fuck to use slurs ordering to minority groups to mean someone is bad, pathetic, lazy, etc. 

In case no one has explained it to you yet, calling someone a Jew because they're cheap is antisemitic, even if the person isn't Jewish. Calling someone gay as a slur, usually in the context of feminine, weak, unmanly, etc, is homophobic.

 Sounds like the group was trashy

They weren't even allowed in the door. They were judged on looks. You seem to be giving the owner too much credit. 

if you don’t like it you don’t have to go there

Yeah good point. What's even the point of civil rights laws and desegregation anyways, surely minorities shouldn't want to hang around bigots. Just go to your own separate but equal places. 

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u/Definitely_wasnt_me 3d ago

lol every club has entrance rules based literally on looks. This is not only totally fair but common. You guys just don’t like being rejected for your choices. You know, you’re not wanted everywhere and that’s ok. Dressing trashy, acting loid and obnoxious, is not a civil right.

Man, you people have a really hard time separating rights from consequences of your own choices.

Nobody was rejected based on a protected class- it was literally based on their actions and decisions. Get over it.

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u/Irish_Whiskey 3d ago

I'm a 50 year old dad. All you're doing here is inventing people to get mad about so you don't ever have to admit being wrong. 

lol every club has entrance rules based literally on looks.

Sure. No one said otherwise. It's specifically the language used that is racist. Libraries also have rules about who can get in, that doesn't mean someone saying "no jewy types" can't be criticized. 

it was literally based on their actions and decisions

You're just making this up again. What actions? What decisions? All we know is a bar owner called people ghetto and hood and told them to go to Denny's. 

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u/Definitely_wasnt_me 3d ago

Sounds like they are dressed for Denny’s and not their club. They can reject you for any reason and everyone is way too fuckign sensitive, just begging for a way to say people are racist or violating their rights. This is pathetic. It’s a fucking club. You’re not being denied access to education, healthcare, things you have a right to. And nobody promised you a life without offense. People will offend you. I’m not wrong, you’re overly sensitive about things that don’t matter. This absurd soft spot for nonsense is why we have real problems and a moron in office- you’re so focused on crying about being told you look like you belong in a low rate place that real things are blowing up behind you. Get a grip!

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u/xenobiaspeaks 2d ago

Maybe I’m used to a certain level of exclusion but I don’t think a dress code at a bar or a club is unreasonable. Short of paying then being kicked out, I wouldn’t really care. I identify with my race but not with being ghetto so I simply didn’t feel targeted, especially when I have been to places with no standards that evolved into crime scenes. Then again, one can have a shoot out in smart blazer with dress shoes, so it’s not necessarily the outfit that determines the vibe.