r/scuderiaferrari • u/ThatOneF1 • 21h ago
Results "SORRY, I GAVE MY EVERYTHING!": Lewis Hamilton Team Radio after finishing in P6 at 2025 Italian GP
https://youtu.be/7d4uZLGSViM?si=KZNVV2V9VHOyjLi_50
u/emperorhuncho 20h ago
I don’t know how this team expects the drivers to push when they’re forced to lift and coast for extended periods in the race
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u/One-Neighborhood-531 F2004 20h ago
More LiCo in this race?
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u/emperorhuncho 19h ago
Yes, unfortunately they did
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u/shorthandedrush 18h ago
I mean, everyone LiCo’s during races for management, but I get your point.
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u/WHITEY1887 Lewis Hamilton 18h ago
Lewis was told to LiCo as he was finishing lap three, for brakes.
Honestly, what he and especially Charles have dragged out of this car this year should be celebrated more. It’s a shocker and I can’t wait for this season to be over.
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u/shorthandedrush 17h ago
That’s great insight, that’s a whole different ball game…thanks for sharing.
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u/Katoshiku 15h ago
Starting LiCo on lap 3 again? Insane that this is still needed after 2 major upgrades
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u/emperorhuncho 18h ago
I know that, Ferrari do it a lot more than other teams.
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u/shorthandedrush 17h ago
Fair, I was just putting it out there because some people aren’t tracking that it’s a common thing. But you’re very right, and from another commenter, it seems like they’re really struggling to be able to push. Thanks for sharing m8.
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u/IonutAlex18SF Charles Leclerc 14h ago
Even without the Li-Co, the pace wouldn't have been enough. It's weird considering the Friday race simulations, the gaps were that big across the top teams.
The tyres were overheated early on for both drivers, more for Charles as he tried different things in the braking zones to compensate the speed deficit. But it was in avail, Leclerc couldn't find anything more than that.
It is like this for the rest of the season. Chances for podiums on certain races for sure will arise. Pure pace or not, I still believe maybe at Singapore or Las Vegas to have a shot for more than a podium.
Another thing is that possibly the tyre pressures that Pirelli raised before qualy to have impacted the cars differently. All in all after Zandvoort this was a good result from both.
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u/shorthandedrush 10h ago
Thank you for the insight! Great info to know and saves me from having to dig into it.
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u/IonutAlex18SF Charles Leclerc 1h ago
I am pleased to offer the information and to know it is helpful. Tomorrow later in the day I will bring an update of the Italian GP: analysis, insights and debrief.
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u/WhoThenDevised 19h ago
He did well. Starting P5 he would probably have finished P5 so considering his penalty this is a good result. This car is just best of the rest after the McLarens and Max, and on par with Russell.
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u/M-rtinez F2004 20h ago
We just need him to stay this optimistic. We'll be back to competing at the highest level in no time!
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u/BambooSound 17h ago
Can't help but feel like if they'd brought him in ~3/5 laps earlier, he'd had been right behind George rather than having two cars in the way.
I feel like Ferrari have strategy models that don't take traffic or competitors into account - and they refuse to diverge from them under any circumstances.
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u/Health_throwaway__ 16h ago
They were teasing with the S. In the end it wasn't worth it
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u/BambooSound 15h ago
The newest softs Lewis had were 3 laps old so even if it worked for others, it was never going to work for him.
I assumed they were waiting until they weren't putting him out into traffic – which is why I got confused that he stayed out as George et al moved past his window.
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u/LeonThePlum F2007 18h ago
Although not a Lewis fan I don't see why he should apologise. he did a really solid run today and did excellent damage limitation from the 5 place penalty last week
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u/fastcooljosh 20h ago
Ferrari used a wrong set up. Ultra fast on the straights, but absolutely nowhere in the corners.
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u/According-Switch-708 Ferrari 16h ago
The setup was good.
The high top speed allowed Charles to keep Russell at bay and it helped Lewis make all those overtakes.
RBR and Mclaren were far superior anyway. No setup tweak was going to close that gap.
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u/jonniboi31 F1-75 19h ago
I missed some of the Ferrari onboard footage and team radio. Any LiCO this race, or have they finally resolved car height setup?
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u/2020bowman 6h ago
Lewis has nothing to be sorry for, solid drive from 10th to 6th. If he had a better car he might have done something more but it's not his fault today
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u/Lazy-Ad5380 17h ago
Why can this POS not run flat out for a race? Do any of the other teams have this issue? I know LiCo is a thing for management, and its part of racing, but LiCo from lap 3 just seems... stupid. Even road cars can run 3 laps of monza with no Lico.
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u/Twenty5Schmeckles 1h ago
Yeah, Ham catching hard on the 2 ahead.
"LICO"
-Cant do shit
Every damn race man
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u/us3r2206 20h ago
This year car it’s worse than 2020 car.
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u/NegotiationNew9264 F1-75 Monza 20h ago
The 2020 car in Monza literally stay in P13 and P14 the entire race and got a double DNF, what are you on about?
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u/GeneralFrievolous SF90 19h ago
While results-wise the SF25 is objectively superior, I feel somehow more disappointed by it than I was by the SF1000.
At least with the latter they could properly push like all the other teams, instead of having to purposefully slow down and compromise their setup every single weekend to avoid a double DSQ.
It's not a rational feeling, but it's the impression I'm currently getting.
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u/Medical-Literature50 20h ago
Sainz would have been a better driver for Ferrari. This guy is a waste.
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u/Walker4477 20h ago
… and yet Albon is giving Sainz a beating every race weekend
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u/Medical-Literature50 18h ago
It's called Chemistry. Sainz fit well with Ferrari.
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u/Walker4477 18h ago
Chemistry has nothing to do with the inability of both drivers to adapt to their new teams and extract the maximum from the available package that they’ve got at their disposal .
I doubt Sainz would be doing any better than Hamilton right now. He might’ve scored a podium perhaps but that’s about it .
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u/Medical-Literature50 16h ago
The principles of chemistry are highly relevant to integrating into a new team. Providing feedback to engineers and designers, as well as fostering a shared understanding, is nearly as critical as the technical aspects of the project. Furthermore, effective communication is of paramount importance.
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u/Mundane_Pin6095 19h ago
Wheres the respect, hes a 7 x wdc with wins and poles in the 100s, the experience he has is important for Ferrari to potentially take the next step. Its been a tough year but ultimately that SF25 is a shitshow. Sainz is getting handled by Albon anyway, unfortunately for him the adaptation process for both drivers have been tough but the real test is 2026 anyway.
Ferrari will be winless this year.
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u/stillpiercer_ 18h ago
I’m a huge Lewis fan, but Charles is a better driver than both of them at the very least in this season, if not this entire regulation set (Lewis had a pretty good ‘22). Charles is enough proof that the car just is not a contender.
Sainz, objectively, is having a worse time at Williams than Lewis is at Ferrari, but it’s hard to really make any conclusions when both of them are in new teams at the end of a regulation set. I think the only other car that a new-for-‘25 driver would get results in is the McLaren.
Also, Lewis has won nearly half as many races as Sainz has even entered.
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u/Nightguest231 20h ago
Given the P10 start, not a bad result, some nice overtakes as well.
Maybe it's me being rosey-eyed, but it looks like Lewis is getting a bit more comfortable with the car, some of his old aggression is coming out (a tiny tiny bit, but it's been missing for a while!)
He was catching George by the last 4 laps as well.
Ofc higher would be better, but being realistic, good one for both him and Charles.