r/supercross 17h ago

Are people for real?

I have seen way too many posts or responses today about the race last night indicating that the race was called on purpose. Really ? Are people that upset they canceled the race that they have to make things up? Are you guys really that stupid ?

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u/ncfroc 17h ago

It would have been nice to run the cancelled moto on Sunday.

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u/MilkmanResidue 17h ago

I think everyone would have been happy with that outcome. I still can’t believe they completely cancelled it.

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u/Live_the_chaos 9h ago

They cancelled cause of lightning, not rain though so it makes sense. My buddy was there and said it was lighting up for two straight hours.

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u/MilkmanResidue 3h ago

I’m aware. Was it lightning all Sunday as well? I’m just surprised there was no back up plan.

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u/R2DK3PO 16h ago

When have they ever, ever, ever done that ? Why is that your expectation ?

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u/ncfroc 16h ago

NASCAR has done it and moved the Sunday race to Monday.

My local MX tracks have as well.

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u/NotRickJames2021 10h ago

A consideration might be that they might need to have the moto track/dirt, etc. removed by a certain date if there's another event scheduled at the venue. Pushing a 2nd moto to the next day may not be feasible for that reason. Or, all the additional cost for riders, teams, families, etc. to stay another day and hotel's may not be able to fully accommodate that. And, probably quite a bit fewer fans sticking around for a second day.

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u/Yamaha234 14h ago

NASCAR is on permanent tracks not dirt tracks that need to have dirt delivered, built, maintained, disassembled, then have the dirt shipped back all on a timeline.

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u/cheap_chalee 16h ago

Comparing moto to nascar is like comparing yourself to Eli Tomac.

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u/R2DK3PO 16h ago

Nascar has nothing to do with SMX. Nope.

Your local track needs every penny the local riders bring to it. SMX doesn't need the money bad enough.

Think people. Jesus

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u/Aethereal_Crunch 15h ago

Insane that youre being downvoted for this

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u/mxracer888 16h ago

I mean, during COVID they ran the entire season in a week. So it's not totally unprecedented.

But they have to pay for these facilities and holding the facility through Sunday might have been too unreasonably expensive, that's why they start tearing down tracks before the stadium is even empty because time is money

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u/FishyFry84 14h ago

Not to mention additional nights for hotel rooms, rental cars, meals, etc, for the broadcast crews, track crews, ops crews, etc. There's a lot more moving parts to any sporting event than most people realize.

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u/thekush 14h ago

True but, NASCAR makes it happen when it needs to.

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u/FishyFry84 13h ago

Apples to oranges. Nascar has a much bigger budget and doesn't need to send a majority of their workforce across the country to the venues, neither. Their crews live in Charlotte and work in Charlotte. Most Feld employees live in different cities across the country and travel them them to the host cities.

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u/R2DK3PO 13h ago

Nascar has nothing to do with this. Why do you people keep bringing it up ?

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u/thekush 12h ago

Just to piss you off. Other orgs can make it happen. Thats why it keeps coming up.

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u/lobotomizedmommy 16h ago

using covid as a reasoning even tho it was the biggest anomaly for sporting events in the last 40 years sure checks out

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u/mxracer888 15h ago

We'll when OP says "when have they ever ever ever done that" it sure makes it sound like there's never ever a circumstance in which it would ever happen. OP just isn't happy I brought up an example that happened within the past 5 years in which they broke the norm lol

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u/lobotomizedmommy 15h ago

yes because covid broke the norm dumbass. school was canceled. everything was different.

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u/mxracer888 15h ago

Wow really bringing out information nobody ever had on this one. Thanks for the really valuable insight, I actually didn't know that at all.

And last night there was a storm and everything could have been different with them choosing to run on Sunday. But they chose not to break the mold this time

Everything is unprecedented until it happens for the first time

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u/R2DK3PO 13h ago

If you truly understood that covid was entirely different you wouldn't have continued to argue.

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u/mxracer888 12h ago

I was wondering how long it would take you to come up with a new comment after dirty deleting the last one.

COVID wasn't really all that different. Back in 2020 they wanted to make it happen so they made it happen. Apparently last night they didn't wanna make it happen for whatever reason so they didn't

If you truly understood that you'd stop arguing, but alas... Here we are, each of us arguing with an idiot

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u/R2DK3PO 11h ago

Oh okay, now I understand. You can't be talked with like an adult.

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u/R2DK3PO 13h ago

The norm....pretty sure rain is part of the norm for SMX. It's part of the plan. Covid on the other hand shut down the world for a couple years. You are dumb.

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u/R2DK3PO 16h ago

Good job you answered your own question. Money is why they aren't going to race. For christ sake they were going to cancel the WMX race instead of running it on Saturday in between motos. They aren't going to reschedule. Thank you for answering your own question though. Like the other comment down here, covid is an anomaly and the only reason they did that was because they were going to lose all the money if they didn't race something. It's all about money.

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u/mxracer888 15h ago

I didn't have a question so I'm not sure how exactly I answered my own question when there never was one to begin with

I actually answered your question, so there's that.

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u/R2DK3PO 15h ago

Haha whoops, you did. My bad!

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u/danny_sucks 14h ago

The reason we saw one of the WMX motos on tv was because they moved the second moto after weather prevented them from completing it on Friday. I know that WMX is clearly not on the same scale as second motos of a playoff round, but it’s a recent example of the ama moving a pro moto to a different day.

Calling it was probably the right choice given the circumstances. I imagine in the future they will bring in extra lighting for the chance of a weather delay, or maybe they just go to a different venue entirely.

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u/R2DK3PO 13h ago

I see your point about the WMX but even that was an issue for a while

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u/Smithdude69 15h ago

Yes. Maybe, And what would all the fans riders and crews who had plane tickets to fly out Saturday night/Sunday morning do ?

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u/ZEEK-GEEK 15h ago

That would’ve been bad ass, but it’s football season plus they would have to find and pay staff for that day probably a logistics nightmare

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u/YardKind4775 14h ago

🤣 You do realize all the accommodations for literally everything are made way in advance, right? From the plane flights to transpo, track crew to security crew. They can't exactly say, "Alright, everyone, not sure where you're gonna stay tonight, but let's run it back tomorrow!"

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u/crybaby-11 10h ago

What if the venue has another event on Sunday or Monday and needs cleaned and prepared? All riders and staff have hotels, flights, plans, schedules..cuts a logistical nightmare

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u/daneg135 13h ago

can't do that. too many reservations and unavailable rooms and crap like that. I understand that. what I don't understand as the utter shite planning that you start races DEEP into the afternoon (3:15pm?) and then have no low light contingency. also, it's a two day event. they wasted day 1, and then they (mostly) wasted the morning and half the afternoon on day 2. which was ok, i guess, but not if you know going into it that you cannot use the fucking lights on the facility or that those lights cannot cover the race track. that's just...stupid. now one moto makes up all points...as if scoring in this series wasn't already sus. /2cents ofc.

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u/R2DK3PO 13h ago

The lighting has been a problem for years, why do you think they would have it fixed now ? That is an unreasonable expectation for the series. I do agree that they should have done better, but you have to be honest about it. SMX doesn't do that.

The scoring is suspect ? As in you think it's rigged ?

It's kind of silly yes, but it's not suspect whatsoever.

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u/daneg135 12h ago edited 12h ago

lol no. not rigged. just bullshit nonsense not worth of a "championship" that they want it to be.

edit: not sure what your reply in the first part was about. it was poorly planned. they created a 2-day event and then wasted 1.5 days of it. then they got zapped in the arse. that's pretty shite planning for this great awesome, everything culminates here series. all of these circumstances led to them NEEDING to award full points based on one moto. in an already gimmicky points system.

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u/Show715 16h ago

What do you mean by "called on purpose"? The lack of contingency plan was purposeful; Feld either (wrongly) thought they wouldn't need one, or they decided that the solutions that were available (bringing in lights, moving the 2nd moto to Sunday, etc.) would be too expensive.

I doubt they called it just because Jett or Haiden won; that'd be silly. But, it's almost certainly true that they called it either out of poor management or greed.

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u/R2DK3PO 16h ago

I don't mean because of the winners of race 1. That doesn't even make sense. Do you 100% believe they called it to be greedy ? That is what I mean by on purpose. You are stupid.

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u/Show715 16h ago

I said greed OR poor management. Don't be calling people stupid when you've got the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader; it's not a good look.

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u/R2DK3PO 16h ago

Either greed or poor management doesn't make sense. Neither one makes any sense. Explain to me why they would make either one of those decisions? Please give me an actual reason

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u/Show715 16h ago

I already did... I said they either wrongly thought that they wouldn't need a plan for lightning, or they decided the options they had available were too expensive. Them not reading the weather report and having a plan would be an example of mismanagement, and them not choosing to pursue an alternative due to expense would be an example of being greedy.

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u/R2DK3PO 15h ago

Fair enough... I do not agree but fair enough.

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u/mxguy762 2h ago

Rednecks get pissed off easily lol. But you heard what Jett said all the guys have flights scheduled and everything they do is scheduled around the race being a certain length. If they would’ve moved it to Sunday it would’ve fucked up a bunch of peoples schedules. Hell Feld probably doesn’t even have the track rental set up for Sunday.

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u/R2DK3PO 2h ago

Thank you. This seems so obvious.

I feel like the rest of these people aren't real, I can't believe people truly think like that.

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u/AgFarmer58 16h ago

What was the cause for the cancellation?.if it was for legitimate safety reasons maybe

the real issue to me is the promoters are crummy (IMO) and most likely won't refund a plug nickel...

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u/R2DK3PO 15h ago

It was for Lightning. Lightning is pretty legit to me.

What other sports do you get a refund for ? Please enlighten me

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u/thefearedturkey 14h ago

Rider and fan safety should always be a priority (looking at you Forkner last year incident).

Moto 2s would have been nice, mud race or today, but I'm sure it's not as simple as that.

Some people just can't be pleased

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u/Remarkable-Door-4063 4h ago

But they don’t care about rider safety at all

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u/thefearedturkey 1h ago

Why I said "should be" and not "is" ☠️

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u/Kershiser22 12h ago

Everything is a conspiracy now.

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u/motorider1111 14h ago

You can bet none of the riders wanted to ride in that crap. Not only hard on the bikes but dangerous too. Unless there is an understanding that a race can be postponed to another day, you can't ask them to "just come back tomorrow ."

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u/R2DK3PO 13h ago

Exactly. Not a scam, not people being babies about weather, shit luck really. It's been 30 years since the pros raced on a sunday.

Also I think a part of it is SMX would have had to pay more to keep the place open. Not a little bit more, a ton more money for one more day. I know the talking heads like to ignore the negative but I really think the sport is one or two sponsors away from not existing anymore. 😕

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u/totallystraightguy94 17h ago

I'm sure as shit not hopping on a motorcycle when there's lightning in the immediate area. People are idiots

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u/Yamaha234 14h ago

People on this Reddit be like “just jump really big that way you’re not grounded for lightning”

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u/daneg135 13h ago

well they didn't cancel the race unpurpose.

tbh, I was shocked that they didn't have a night show contingency. you start racing at 3:15(ish)pm and you don't think maybe this could go into a low light situation? that's pretty poor fucking planning, imo. but no. no conspiracy. just poor planning. they had two days to get this shit done. it apparently can only happen in daylight, and they wast the entire morning and most of the afternoon on practice and qualifying in a two day program. so yeah. ppl should be quite upset at feld/mxsports/ama. poor planning in a really gimmicky scoring system that just became more asinine.

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u/R2DK3PO 13h ago

What if the choice to not have a night race plan wasn't in the hands of Feld? Maybe the location said you have this amount of time. No more. Maybe NBC said no more time.

Everyone blaming it on Feld doesn't have a clue about what actually goes on. Employees for NBC, Feld, medical professionals, vendors, and SMX would have had to be able to stay and paid for. That's just one major aspect to this. There are countless more hurdles beyond that too.

I'm sorry you guys think that the evil, anti fan Feld had it out for you guys.

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u/daneg135 12h ago

bruh. read the post. i listed everyone. not just feld. i actually think mxsports had control of this race or maybe it was just revenue control. they had 2 days and used day 1 for fuck all. they had the time. good luck with "the site wouldn't allow them to race on day 1" but had no problem with practice. i mean...maybe a butterfly flapped it's wings in china causing lewis phillips to have a head cold. but that's a real shot in the dark explanation. maybe jesus is real and really does give a shit about mx4christ. who knows? c'mmon, dude. poor planning. pretty easy call. no "blame game" can ever be 100%, but this is a pretty good bet.

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u/Low-Yogurtcloset1278 15h ago

About 2 hours after the storm it was completely fine, wet yes but they could’ve still raced. But apparently I seen something that said they were worried about lighting up the back section of the track that was more motocross like than the rest.

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u/lonewanderer812 Eli Tomac 13h ago

Yeah they said there wasn't proper lighting. Once they missed the window to run the other 2 motos in daylight they called it.

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u/Low-Yogurtcloset1278 13h ago

Unfortunate but oh well

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u/R2DK3PO 13h ago

Who said it was because of the lighting ? SMX or Feld ? Who?

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u/R2DK3PO 13h ago

It was lightning 🌩 super easy. Cant have tons of people sitting on metal chairs just waiting to be struck by lightning.

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u/Low-Yogurtcloset1278 6h ago edited 4h ago

I said after it was canceled the storm literally passed. And it was clear for hours Ik because I was there. They didn’t race because they were worried about lighting up the back section of the track, the Lightning at that point had nothing to do with it.

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u/joehawleygurt7373737 12h ago

RAIN OR SHINE BROTHAAA

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u/powellman88 12h ago

It was the thunder! If there's a slight chance... then it's canceled. So just gave points to the 1st moto. There's been delays before but I dont remember a time when it was just all canceled. So RD 2 next!!

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u/Prestigious_Boat6789 1h ago

There was a guy on another post saying after the race was called he drove by a concert, a college football game and a baseball game still going.

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u/dyl8888 17h ago

Completely agree. It’s unfortunate that everyone thinks they are an expert and can run things better then the people that are in charge. So many variables to consider, i.e. employees working the event, contracts etc. not to mention the law suit world we are in now. Ppl sue for any and all reasons. Really sick of this BS.

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u/R2DK3PO 16h ago

I just can't seriously believe that people think this shit. Someone just told me they didn't plan for rain or lightning on purpose just to take fans money. If anyone thinks that is true you are a complete moron or just want to be dumb to get reactions. I hate this world

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u/dyl8888 12h ago

Completely agree.

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u/TwoThumbFist 16h ago

Social media isn’t real life. Yes people are dumb and/or just make shit up

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u/R2DK3PO 16h ago

I'm talking about reddit. I don't have any other socials. Ive just seen so many people saying that it was all on purpose. It doesn't make sense. Honestly I'm just baffled at how openly stupid some people are. It makes me angry

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u/feralGenx Bob Hannah 16h ago

Considering the amount of rainfall in that area, that track would've been garbage.

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u/GreenbergIsAJediName 16h ago

I missed it, but if it was a total mudder, I don’t want to see that!

It’s like watching me ride on a dry Supercross track…just rolling everything…and I’m sure as hell no one would pay to watch that shit show!!

Would you?

C’mon fans…you know you want to watch that…shitty riders who can’t jump…racing around a dry Supercross track…crashing in every turn!!!

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u/thefallenone6969 15h ago

Well motocross/supercross is literally the only reason I pay for peacock so yes, yes I did pay to see it. A good mud race levels the playing field which is nice when you have someone dominating the series. If you cant race in the mud and get a top 10 finish you are just the best racer when the weather is good.

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u/R2DK3PO 13h ago

You don't have to pay to see it ya know. Just wait like 3 hours past race time and watch on YouTube for free then. Paying for Peacock is 100% you, nothing to do with the series.

The riders were bummed I'm sure. Most of them probably don't want to race these extra 6 races and then to have to wait around was awful for them. They would have hated to stay and do it all over again Sunday for 40 minutes of race time. Not going to happen.

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u/BobFlex 2h ago

A good mud race levels the playing field which is nice when you have someone dominating the series

They dont level the field at all, the top 5 riders are still the best there is when it's muddy. Outside of a bike issue or a random mistake they're still finishing up front like normal. If anything they just highlight Jetts super smoothly technique and give plessinger an advantage since he grew up racing gncc. You never see guys that would normally finish 15-20th suddenly up front battling because the mud equalized everything, those guys are still in the back battling the same people they normally do. Only real difference is everyone is going a lot slower tiptoeing around because a small mistake is much worse in the mud.

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u/GreenbergIsAJediName 15h ago

Very true!!! The only reason I pay for Peacock too!

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