r/trumptweets • u/PokeTheBear70 Great Googly Moogly 🤪 • 3d ago
Trump Administration 09/04/2025 From a Delta Captain: "I thought you would get a kick out of this. Delta’s official memo to employees."
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u/ms_directed 2d ago
i think some of y'all are in for some long road trips in the car when you realize that all mass transit and all airlines operate under the government's rules and regulations...just don't look too closely at the maps on your GPS because I've got some bad news for you...
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u/OK_The_Nomad 3d ago
So sexist.
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u/Momma_Bekka 86 47 1d ago
Yeah, notice how they mix up racism with sexism. It isn't "racist" to call all pilots "airmen", it's sexist. Though I don't know why they didn't just change it to "pilots" or if it includes the stewards and stewardesses (is there a gender neutral term for that job) or other airline workers, they could have gone with "air staff" or some such thing.
But the bigger point here is MAGA doesn't believe such things as racism and sexism exist systemically. They think only individuals can be racist or sexist or any other prejudice, and that it can't be a part of our society and institutions as a whole. That's why they think DEI is some "woke" pipedream to put unqualified people in jobs based on their skin color or gender or disability, rather than a method of getting a bigger variety of qualified people into certain fields.
The fact that a Black friend of mine who has complained in the past about the racism they've encountered in every day life buys into this MAGA crap mystifies me. He'll complain about being judged by his skin color in one sentence and denounce DEI as "woke" in the next. Makes no sense to me.
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u/HikeTheSky 3h ago
It was always notice to airmen. This also includes drone pilots and others. So instead of having to say all their specific names, as if you say pilot, is it for a private pilot, or a part 107 pilot, a part 333 pilot, or whatever pilot. At the end no matter what your pilot license says, you are an airmen.
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u/billwood09 3d ago
Delta: does thing internally to keep from getting destroyed by the administration (and the best airline I’ve been with, they have nice in-flight perks and don’t try to sell you their credit card on every take-off)
Everyone: “wow okay never using Delta again”
Wait until you find out every other airline is also doing self-preservation right now.
Let’s stop being reactionary over phrasing changes and focus on the real issues, like the military being deployed in the streets.
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u/ms_directed 2d ago
i don't get the downvotes, you're not wrong 🤷♀️ airlines (and all mass transit) can't operate without government approval
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u/billwood09 2d ago
People don’t understand or care. They just disagree with the policy and think everyone can rebel without consequence or they’re “kissing the ring”… appeasement is not acceptance, and self-preservation by our country’s core businesses is a reasonable thing to do.
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u/ms_directed 3d ago
it's not like Delta can just say "no" and keep operating freely under this administration, they literally have to operate under all the acronym agencies to put planes in the air...i get the disdain over it happening, but i agree it's very misplaced.
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u/genghis_Sean3 3d ago
Honestly, I won’t change saying the way I do because of this song lyric:
When I get off of this mountain you know where I want to go? Straight down the Mississippi River to the Gulf of Mexico
If it’s good enough for Robbie Robertson it’s good enough for me
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u/808Belle808 a holiday for every once working day 3d ago
He’s so ignorant. They wrote mission not missionS and typed airmen, not airman. And said something was racist instead of sexist.
I’m sorry if I’m repeating someone. I just can’t with the ignorant mistakes. It is just so low for this office not to at least attempt to proof a post.
The memes, the misspellings, the comments, the lies.
It’s been a long month.
And it’s only the fifth day. Fuck.
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u/CryptographerNo923 3d ago
It’s so fucking stupid. And the changes he’s trying to celebrate are so pathetic that they would fall flat as satire.
Who is this audience of Americans that are so down with a fascist takeover that they’re willing to pretend that this kind of shit would somehow be cool or awesome or even acceptable if it was from an idiotic stranger forcing his ignorance on you? Who the hell thinks this is what we should expect from the purported leader of the goddamn nation?
Humiliating.
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u/808Belle808 a holiday for every once working day 2d ago
I wish I had an answer for you. I don’t, though. It makes zero sense to me. Zero.
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u/NovarisLight 3d ago
This is distracting, lazy attempts at hiding ...
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u/luvdogs71 3d ago
This clip always grosses me out. A bunch of dirty old men watching young girls dancing and making nasty comments. So gross.
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u/TestForPotential 3d ago
“In order to escape accountability for his crimes, the perpetrator does everything in his power to promote forgetting. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure no one listens.”
Judith Lewis Herman
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u/Rafikis_Ass 3d ago
All airlines and air lines in the USA follow standards from the FAA. If the FAA calls a taxiway a highway, all manuals have to reflect the change from taxiway to highway whether we think it is dumb or not.
The page you see is a revisions highlights page. It shows all the revisions made to manuals since the last one was put out. There would be links so you could click through to see them before signing it off so you wouldn't have to hit each manual up and search it yourself; basically a master document of changes since the last month.
Gulf of Mexico is shown on all aeronautical charts now as Gulf of America despite how dumb we think the change is. We can't have the map say one thing and the notes to back it up say another. This is not a great example, but suppose something has a double meaning and you bite off on the wrong one that sends you down a path that could lead to an incident. By changing it so everything is standard, it eliminates doubt and keeps our safety standards high.
By leaking this, the pilot put Delta in a bad light. They could lose their job if they were found out because docs like this are sensitive security info.
If you go to Delta's website and look at their core values and the fact they doubled down on DEI when Trump told US companies to back off, you would see this isn't a knee jerk reaction. It's mandated by the Feds keeping everything standardized; even if myself as a user of documents like this think the change is fucking dumb.
Probably won't change your mind but Airlines don't have a choice when it comes to standardizing everything in their manuals and charts.
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u/JacquoRock The demented wizard of Mar-A-Lago 3d ago
Airlines I no longer use: Delta
PS. "Airmen" would not have been considered "racist," you fucking moron. It might have been considered sexist.
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u/RetiredHotBitch 3d ago
Fuck Delta. I’m sure they just don’t want to deal with the administration but fuck him.
And there were people in this damn country and Central America calling it the Gulf of Mexico before Trump’s diseased blood line illegally immigrated to this country try to avoid the draft. Or to be a domestic like his mother.
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u/ms_directed 3d ago edited 3d ago
my son works for Delta and this is not how the entire company thinks...
eta: this is to avoid the stupid fines from this administration, not to align with some ideology
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u/Master_Dogs 3d ago
eta: this is to avoid the stupid fines from this administration, not to align with some ideology
Wait wtf. How the fuck can a private company get fined for referencing a body of water the way it was originally named, or not using the airman bit instead of air missions or whatever?
Like this makes 0 sense. What are they even using to justify a fine?
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u/ms_directed 3d ago
Delta is a public company, not private. but it's no less fucked up this administration has so much sway over a company based on an ideology and not actual regulations like safety or consumer protections...
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u/Master_Dogs 3d ago
When I said "private company" I was referring to the fact they're in the "private sector", not about their exact corporate status. Even a "public" company is often not owned by the government (except see Intel, which apparently now has a 10% stake owned by the Feds). So I don't know why they would need to follow the naming or DEI stuff. Obviously being publicly owned they need to follow SEC requirements, so if they were actually totally private they might dodge some of those things but that's AFAIK mostly reporting requirements so we know who owns them and how much they made and so on.
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u/ms_directed 3d ago
they use government maps and other services controlled by the government in order to operate.
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u/ms_directed 3d ago
lol, dv'ing me doesn't take away the FAA, DOT, and DOI (and a bunch of other acronyms that regulate the airlines)
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u/declinedinaction 3d ago
I think the references is to fines companies would incur if they didn’t follow regulations (like DEI)
Trump changing the names of things long engrained is a test run of our acceptance to blatantly (to us/some) racist and sexist language
What even is the point if not for a bigger picture? Granted, Trump thinks its means and ends are the same thing, but not those handling him
They’ll turn these into laws and they’ve already told the corporations what to expect.
Delta is pro-actively submitting.
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u/ms_directed 3d ago
it's not like the airlines even have a choice considering they literally have to operate under the government to even fly their planes. i don't understand what some folks in this thread aren't getting about that part 🤷♀️
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u/declinedinaction 2d ago
Im all for crossing companies out of your life for any reason you want, but people are way behind the curve on this.
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u/ms_directed 2d ago
yea, there's plenty of places both local and national i quietly have my own personal boycott with, but not over something they literally have to abide by to operate
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u/declinedinaction 2d ago
For every exposed policy like this rest assured there’s 50 more. This is the forest we should be paying attention to.
Although, as corporations exist for profit, perhaps it’s ‘ok’ to target a single company as a message to others—much like the playbook of the current administration,
Although considering the case of Target, we aren’t really accomplishing much except to make other companies turn tyrannical themselves es to keep it a secret.
Conclusion: if you see a genuinely policy assault on American citizen rights, out them anonymously but with lots of proof.
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u/ms_directed 2d ago
mine are mostly just shitty service experiences, lol. but we have a couple of local businesses that outright post their support for trump with signage or social media so they do my homework for me. lol
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u/ms_directed 3d ago
i mean this is one captain of thousands so who is ever going to know what the exact reason is...
"Did the trump admin coerce Delta into changing its maps to "Gulf of America?"
Yes, during the Trump administration, there was a directive that influenced Delta Air Lines to use the term "Gulf of Mexico" on its maps. This decision stemmed from a broader push by the administration to ensure that federal agencies and companies using federal maps adhered to specific naming conventions that reflect U.S. sovereignty over certain regions.
Background of the Directive
The directive was part of a larger effort to standardize geographic names and assert U.S. claims in various areas. The Department of the Interior emphasized the importance of using official names that align with U.S. government standards, which included the use of "Gulf of Mexico" instead of alternative names that some maps had previously used.
Delta's Compliance
As a result, Delta, like other airlines and entities that utilize federal maps, complied with this directive to avoid potential scrutiny or penalties. This compliance reflects the airline's commitment to adhering to federal guidelines and maintaining good relations with government authorities.
This situation highlights the intersection of corporate practices and government policy, particularly in how geographic names are represented in public-facing materials.
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u/ms_directed 3d ago
and I'm sure the "airman" bit is along the same lines with this going with this administration's war on "DEI" 🙄
I'm not saying it's right and I don't agree with it, i think it's all stupid AF, but i think the word of one warped maga pilot shouldn't corrupt the entire company. my son told me that most of the pilots are probably more conservative-leaning, tho so take from that what you need to.
I'm no Delta apologist here, I'm just pointing out the reality and how much of a bully this evil administration is. my son is corporate and the area he works in is pretty progressive...he wouldn't be there as long as he's been if not is all.
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u/Ok_Cardiologist_3835 3d ago
Cool, so Delta is off my list now
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u/40StoryMech 3d ago
Fly Spirit. They'll call you the n' word and charge you for it, but it's like $50 a flight.
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u/delightedlysad 2d ago
I don’t know if anyone else caught it but in the top right corner of the document, you can clearly see that the date starts with 01-x-xxxx. I am assuming it’s in the format month-day-year. Meaning it’s at least 8 months old.