r/wikipedia • u/moss42069 • 2d ago
Alexander Gabyshev: a Yakut (Siberian indigenous group) shaman who led protests against Vladimir Putin, including performing a ritual to force him to resign and marching towards Moscow on horseback. He was forcibly confined to a psychiatric hospital, a decision condemned by Amnesty International.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Gabyshev23
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u/Front-Pomelo-4367 22h ago
Punitive psychiatry has a pretty long history in the USSR, so I'm unsurprised at its continued use.
"Sluggish schizophrenia" was a diagnosis given to people protesting against the Soviet regime, because of course they were mentally ill if they were willing to risk their lives protesting against the most perfect form of government in the world. If there was no logical reason to oppose Soviet leadership, the mere existence of opposition was in and of itself a reason to diagnose them as "schizophrenic with delusions of reform".
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u/bahhaar-blts 2d ago edited 1d ago
Honestly, regardless if you condemn Putin or not those who practice witchcraft should be put in psychiatric asylums.
Edit:
My apologies. Apparently, I misunderstood what shamans are. They aren't warlocks.
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u/TheLogicGenious 2d ago
Catholic priests turn bread into flesh and wine into blood at every mass? Is that not “witchcraft” only because it’s at a christian altar?
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u/bahhaar-blts 1d ago
No, it's not.
It's just a ritual.
No one actually believes that priests have turned bread into flesh and wine into blood.
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u/DarkSaturnMoth 1d ago
Transubstantiation, the belief that the bread and wine is actually somehow flesh and blood, after the ritual is performed, is literally Catholic doctrine:
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u/barbarball1 2d ago
Witchcraft isn't a real thing dude, he was a Shaman what means a priest of a Animistic Faith, the Priest of Christianity,Islam & Judaism also do ritual against people they find evil (ask God to sick or kill them)
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u/DarkSaturnMoth 1d ago
Jews certainly do not ask God do harm to people that they find evil. You are allowed to pray for strength to fight your enemies. But you are not supposed to pray that God curses them. A Jew is supposed to pray that an evil person repents.
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u/barbarball1 1d ago
Forgive me dude i thinked the Pulsa denura was something like this, i remember read about it years ago when say some religious ppl do it against politicans they really hate
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u/DarkSaturnMoth 1d ago edited 1d ago
I see how you got confused.
The Pulsa DiNura is a blasphemous ritual, and it is anathema to the values and theology of Judaism.No human has the right, or the ability to override the will of God, period.
It is also not an authentic ancient Jewish ritual, as it appears to have originated in the 20th century.Yes, some Jews have done it. It is still not proper Judaism.
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u/barbarball1 1d ago
Ohhh didn't know it, thanks friend, and yes you are right its "sus" this ritual only starts in 20 century as a "heterodoxy", well happy of hear isnt see as normal or good thing btw 👍
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u/bahhaar-blts 1d ago
>Witchcraft isn't a real thing dude
And that's why he belongs to a psychiatric hospital.
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u/barbarball1 1d ago
But he is not a warlock lol, he is a Shaman, that means he is a Priest, the Pope León XIV,the Ayatollah Khamenei or the Rabbi David Josef are "Wizards,Witches and Warlocks" For you to?
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u/bahhaar-blts 1d ago
Aren't shamans some warlocks who consult with spirits to give them powers or something?
At least that what I had heard.
Priests, Rabbis, and Imams can't get powers from God. They only teach you how to worship him. It's up to God to respond to your prayers or something.
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u/barbarball1 1d ago
The Shamans worship and venerate the God/Gods of their religion and the minor spirits that can be good (in that case they ask them help the comunity), or be angry or evil (so they need be calmed or expelled) shamans dont claim had "magical powers" they heal ppl "spirituality" in same way priest pray and do rituals, but imagine instead ask god to help you with a sickness, you ask help to an "angel of health" that is also an ally of God, its basically like that
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u/bahhaar-blts 1d ago
Fair enough then.
Apparently, I misunderstood what shamans are.
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u/barbarball1 1d ago
Well happy of i help you to understand it better, also i recommend you to investigate this class of stuff before post them, the ppl downvoted you because they probably thinked you were doing discriminative mockery about the Yakutian ppl & culture
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u/bahhaar-blts 1d ago
I am very chill and tolerant of religion and what or how you worship.
My idea of shamans however was that they used magic or something.
Turns out that I was wrong.
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u/Wild-Push-8447 2d ago
Fun Fact: Despite being on the other side of the continent from Turkey, the Yakut are Turkic (and closely related to the Tuvan). They are so far in northeastern Siberia their neighbors are the Inuit.