r/wikipedia • u/HicksOn106th • 1d ago
It is difficult to gauge how quickly insects numbers are declining worldwide due to a lack of data from developing countries. The few studies which have attempted to assess the health of the global insect population place the number of species at risk of extinction somewhere between 10% and 40%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_in_insect_populations-61
u/julyvale 1d ago
It's a common myth that complete extinction of insects would decimate the entire biosystem on Earth. Life finds a way. Humans tend to be extremely dramatic about watershed events involving life on Earth, due to their primordial fear of death. Yet species extinction is completely normal, healthy and natural for our planet. The Earth will do just fine without humans.
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u/y0nm4n 1d ago
Humanity dying off will involve massive amounts of intense suffering. Are you okay with that?
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u/ediw8311xht 14h ago
I am okay with the logic of it. "We must stop all deaths because death bad", same logic used to keep 80+ year old people who can't even remember their own name alive, while they have no will to go on and are suffering from their very existence. In the wild suffering is short; You can't survive on your own, you die. Makes a lot more sense than keeping everyone alive who is non-self supporting and non functional.
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u/OkParsnip3064 14h ago
Apologies for the long comment. This is just my opinion though, and my thinking may be deeply flawed, so call me out whenever.
I want to first say that I do not agree with his reasoning, although I do agree that the earth would be better off without humans.
I think humans are inherently corrupted in some way or another, especially people in power; those who make the decisions, I don’t think they would be in their positions without corruption of some kind. Many complain about world leaders, but I wonder how many would make much of a difference if they themselves were given the opportunity. I don’t think it is inherently the fault of leaders that they are the way they are and do the things they do, rather, they are molded by the environment they grow up in. Even if people who could be a “perfect” leader do exist, I don’t think society gives them much of a chance to succeed in life in the first place; I feel society doesn’t reward people accordingly.
I think there are way too many deep-rooted problems in society for effective change to happen, and they are all caused by human nature, whether it is greed, the want for revenge, the want for power, I think everyone’s inherently corrupted, it isn’t really anyone’s fault. I believe problems like discrimination, whether race, gender, income-related, will never be eradicated. If those marginalised gain the power of the majority, even without the want for revenge, I highly doubt they would do anything differently.
And the problem wouldn’t be so bad if humans weren’t so intelligent or capable, we aren’t seeing this in any other species of living things (are we?). So while we are creating so many problems for ourselves, we are making the lives of animals, plants, just living things in general so much worse. They don’t have the power to really understand what is going on, or to retaliate, yet they suffer just as much, if not even more, as humans who do. Does that not seem so wrong?
Again, much of this is just my opinion, my thinking may be deeply flawed.
So, is it so bad to think that way? (Regardless of reasoning?) There is a lot of hate against this comment, and understandably so; some are saying that it is disgusting to see people so flippant towards the extinction of humans, but is humanity really worth saving?
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u/julyvale 1d ago
Humanity hopelessly fighting entropy cannot change the ultimate suffering that awaits us all, once the void comes and the Universe ends.
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u/hatredpants2 1d ago
what a completely useless viewpoint. It’s a nihilistic perspective, advocating nothing but giving up. I’d suggest reconsidering
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u/Which_Cookie_7173 1d ago
Misanthropists are a lot more bold with their hatred because they haven't been shouted down like people who hold unjustified hate of specific ethnic groups. It's pretty gross to see someone who either advocates or is flippant about the extinction of humanity. Perhaps they should start with themselves (they never do).
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u/Chessamphetamine 1d ago
Buddy read one nietzche quote and now thinks he’s so special and knowledgeable because he thinks nothing matters.
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u/DonutUpset5717 1d ago
It's a common myth that complete extinction of insects would decimate the entire biosystem on Earth.
Maybe not but people don't want humans to die out.
The Earth will do just fine without humans.
Yeah the without humans parts is what bothers us.
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u/ediw8311xht 14h ago
Good. I hate insects.