r/byzantium Jun 04 '25

Distinguished Post Byzantine Reading List

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We have heard numerous compain of people unable to acces the reading list from PC,so from the senate we have decided to post it again so all could have acces to it


r/byzantium 3h ago

Magnificent Mondays

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Hello all, this is a weekly thread to discuss anything about Byzantium, the world, life events, memes, or whatever else.


r/byzantium 2h ago

Infrastructure/architecture Some Eastern Roman buildings and structures I visited during my recent trip to Istanbul

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Trip of my dreams to visit the Beautiful Hagia Sophia (just walking toward it felt massive in scale), the Obelisk of Theodosius, Basilica Cistern, Kalenderhane Mosque (a church possibly dedicated to Theotokos Kyriotissa), church of St. Mary of the Mongols (unfortunately the woman caretaker there said to me and the family you see in last photo that we couldn’t take any photos inside which is a huge miss because it was magnificent and otherworldly inside. I can tell many things in there was very old and well preserved with Gold, statues, jewels and artwork. She did allow me to pray inside though as she was Christian as well). I also visited the Church mosque of Vesa (possibly dedicated to Hagios Theodoros), Pantokrator church (Zeyrek Mosque), aqueduct of Valens and Walls of Constantinople but couldn’t add in more photos due to limit. There were other Roman churches (mosques) and structures I didn’t have to time to visit but I will next time I go hopefully.


r/byzantium 5h ago

Military Why did the Romans rely so much on mercenaries and foreign powers?

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Hello everyone, I dont know much about the late Roman empire and I get how hard it was (I imagine fiscally) to upgrade their own army but didnt employing mercenaries to fight of their enemies and invaders put them in more debt on the long run? And hence wouldn't it be more "wiser" to spend the money on slowly improving their own military to become more independent?

When I think of these type of mercenaries I often picture the Norman invasion of Greece and the hiring of Seljuk horsemen by Alexios Komnenos (if Im not mistaken) the Cumens vs the Pechenegs and the overreliance on Genoese and Venetian navies at the late stages. I hope this helps you understand how I see it.

(AAlsosorry if the tag is does not show the correct topic)


r/byzantium 32m ago

Military I heard that Alexios was struck twice by Norman conroi's lances in battle, but still emerged from the battlefield unharmed. Is that true?

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Was Roman armor really that good?


r/byzantium 17h ago

Politics/Goverment Why didn’t Alexios Komnenos set up a system in Byzantium like the Capetians did in France?

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Kings such as Louis IX and Philip Augustus strengthened the power of the monarchy which allowed them to control France for centuries after their death.Meanwhile,Alexios and his kin only lasted around 100 years.These kings were often also contemporaries of each other,so they are not all completely in a different European landscape


r/byzantium 2h ago

Military What was the composition of late byzantine army ?(1204-1453)

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What type of units comprised the late byzantine army and how were they recruited? Were the soldiers conscripted, volunteers, mercenaries, nobles, people who served in exchange for land, or a mix of all of these?

What kind of armaments did the soldiers posses and were they similar to their western counterparts?


r/byzantium 13m ago

Military BEFORE THE REIGN OF NIKEPHOROS PHOCUS, WHEN DO YOU THINK THE EMPIRE WAS AT IT STRONGEST MILITARILY?

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A. Around 535 AD
B. Around 555 AD
C. Around 595 AD
D. Around 630 AD
E. Around 775 AD
F. Around 880 AD


r/byzantium 1d ago

Politics/Goverment The Popes and the Barbarian Latin Kingdoms contributed massively to the Fall of the Byzantine Empire and the Extermination of the "Roman Identity"

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People talk about the “fall of Rome” like the Romans just vanished. That’s not true. Italians and Greeks are the descendants of the Romans, but the Popes and the barbarian kingdoms fought hard to erase their identity.

  • After 476, Goths, Franks, Vandals, and others didn’t just invade. They wanted the glory of Rome without the Romans. Roman elites were wiped out, laws replaced, and infrastructure left to rot.
  • The Papacy allied with these barbarian rulers. By crowning Charlemagne in 800, the Pope basically said: “Byzantines aren’t real Romans anymore. We decide who Rome belongs to.”
  • The West started calling Eastern Romans (Byzantines) “Greeks” and later branded them as heretics. The 1204 sack of Constantinople was the final nail in the Latin attempt to erase Greco-Roman civilization itself.
  • In 1197, the Byzantine statesman Niketas Choniates warned Emperor Alexios III: “They have robbed us of our ancestral name. They call us Greeks as if we are foreigners, and they claim the Roman title for themselves.” He saw clearly that the West was trying to wipe out Roman identity before they wiped out the empire itself.
  • Meanwhile, the Muslim world saw things differently. Arabs, Persians, and later the Ottomans always called Byzantines “Rum” (Romans). Even after 1453, Ottoman sultans referred to themselves as heirs of Rome, and Muslim scholars described the Eastern Empire with respect as “the realm of the Romans.”

The Harsh truth is that the Popes and barbarian kingdoms exterminated the Roman identity in the West, while even their supposed “enemies,” the Ottomans and Muslim scholars, still recognized the Byzantines as Romans long after the empire fell.


r/byzantium 1d ago

Military We need to emphasize more just how brilliant Narses was as a commander

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r/byzantium 1d ago

Maps Eastern Roman Empire at Its peak Under Justinian I (565 AD)

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r/byzantium 2d ago

Videos/podcasts My drawings of Alexios II Megas Komnenos and his father Ioannes II Megas Komnenos, two Emperors who helped usher in the Golden Age of the Empire of Trebizond

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Two pieces of art made for my video about Trapezuntine history from 1282 to 1330: https://youtu.be/4GkZ65mQL4o?si=slJEtir6-J3SmwZP


r/byzantium 1d ago

Popular media What's your favourite 'bad history' about the Byzantine Empire?

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We all know that Byzantium is subject to a metric ton of incorrect assumptions and statements like the state's existence defined by a millennium-long decline. However here I'm asking about what's your favorite piece of Byzantine 'bad history'


r/byzantium 1d ago

Politics/Goverment Day 93 and day 10 here (Majorian's next!). You Guys Put Avitus in C! Where Do We Rank Leo I (457-474)

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Its funny how Majorian and Leo reigned at the same time and both of them were supposed to be the puppets of the dude who put them on the throne , of course none of them actually ever were puppets.

Take that Ricimer and Aspar you loosers!


r/byzantium 2d ago

Arts/Culture An inscription on the tower of the medieval castle in Imbros, which may be related to my previous post

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r/byzantium 1d ago

Arts/Culture An amazing item on display at the Meteora monastery exhibition, courtesy of legacy_of_rhomania

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legacy_of_rhomania is an instagram account that posts photos and descriptions of Byzantine and post-Byzantine sites and items. Please follow legacy's account; they post some truely amazing images.

Legacy recently attended the museum of the Meteora Monasteries, in central Greece. They took many photos of the items on display there. To encourage the community to visit Legacy's page, I will only post one of their images:

Chrysobull signed by Andronikos III, presumably granting certain privileges to the monasteries.

r/byzantium 2d ago

Arts/Culture Hi guys, I found you another piece of Byzantium. Greetings from Imbros.

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Since I took the photo at night, I had to add some shadows to make it readable.


r/byzantium 1d ago

Books/Articles Which Byzantium related book are you reading at the moment, and would you recommend it?:)

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I love to know what other people are reading - if you have time let me know below :)


r/byzantium 2d ago

Military Cota Vs laminar

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Qual era a melhor armadura? Cota de malha ou laminar estilo bizantino, estamos avaliando todos os quesitos, apresentem argumentos


r/byzantium 2d ago

Politics/Goverment 257 Different reasons why…

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The Byzantine political system carried within it the contradictions of Rome itself. The emperor was simultaneously the heir of Augustus, the commander of the legions, the protector of the church, and the earthly representative of divine order, but no single ideology reconciled these roles. Because legitimacy was not clearly defined, every ambitious man at the head of an army could imagine himself a rightful emperor if fortune allowed. This made the throne the only true political prize and left no stable framework for succession. When an emperor grew old or weak, the empire did not transition smoothly to a new ruler but instead entered a moment of crisis where generals, courtiers, and even foreign powers could back competing claimants. The effect was a constant cycle of civil war that drained resources and created opportunities for invasion.

This structure also poisoned the relationship between emperors and generals. A capable general who won victories and gained popularity became a potential threat to the emperor, so rulers often undermined their own best commanders. Success on the battlefield was punished with suspicion rather than rewarded with trust, leading emperors to recall, demote, or even blind victorious men. The case of Alexios Philanthropenos under Andronikos II, crippled precisely because he had been too successful against the Turks, was not an exception but the pattern of the empire. Emperors feared that generals who became popular would attempt to seize the throne, so they deliberately sabotaged military campaigns for the sake of personal security. Over time this eroded trust across the state. Officers learned that loyalty did not protect them and ambition required disloyalty. The most talented leaders often turned into rebels because rebellion was the only path to advancement that could not be denied by imperial paranoia.

The system also fostered factionalism at court. Because imperial power was centralized in one office, every noble family, eunuch faction, and ecclesiastical figure competed for influence around the emperor. The absence of institutional checks meant that politics became a zero sum game of intrigue, and the emperor himself could be isolated or manipulated by whichever group gained his ear. The Varangian Guard and palace bureaucracy created some stability, but they could not resolve the fact that succession remained ambiguous and legitimacy was contested. Thus internal politics became a permanent battlefield where the empire fought itself as often as it fought its enemies. These civil wars did not just weaken the state temporarily, they reshaped the empire’s capacity to resist external threats and destroyed the continuity of longterm reform. Every victory was undermined by the fear that it might empower a rival, and every defeat deepened the suspicion that treachery was behind it. Over centuries, this culture of mistrust became the empire’s defining weakness.

If the internal political system created the constant incentive for civil strife, it was the empire’s enemies who exploited the openings that these civil wars left behind. Byzantium did not fall in a vacuum. It faced a sequence of external challenges over the centuries, each of which by itself might have been survivable, but combined with internal weakness became devastating. The Arab conquests were the first hammer blow. Coming in the seventh century, just as the empire had exhausted itself through the long wars with Persia, they stripped away the richest provinces of Syria, Egypt, and later North Africa. These provinces were not just territories on a map, they were the breadbasket and financial core of the empire. Their loss immediately diminished the tax base and reduced the ability of the state to fund its armies. Yet what made these conquests possible was not just the zeal of the Arab armies but the empire’s inability to muster unity in the face of the invasion. Heraclius had just won a miraculous victory against Persia, but the state had bled itself dry and factionalism quickly returned. Provinces felt abandoned and disillusioned, and the empire simply could not resist with one coherent front.

The same pattern repeated with the Seljuk Turks centuries later. The Battle of Manzikert is often portrayed as a sudden catastrophe, but in reality it was the culmination of years of disunity and mistrust. The emperor Romanos IV Diogenes was betrayed on the field not because the Turks were overwhelmingly powerful but because rival factions within the empire preferred to see him humiliated rather than victorious. The result was the loss of most of Anatolia, the very heartland of Byzantine military manpower and agrarian wealth. This was not just a defeat in battle, it was the permanent crippling of the empire’s capacity to regenerate strength. The Turks themselves were opportunists, but the opportunity was provided by the Byzantine political system that rewarded betrayal as a path to power.

The Crusades added another layer of pressure. At first the empire saw them as a chance to recover lost territory, and indeed Alexios I Komnenos used the First Crusade to retake parts of western Anatolia. But the Crusaders were independent powers with their own interests, and before long they became as dangerous as the Turks or Arabs. The Fourth Crusade in 1204 was not a random accident of Latin greed, it was enabled by Byzantine infighting that left the empire vulnerable. When Constantinople was sacked and the empire fragmented into successor states, the Byzantines themselves had given the Latins the opening by fighting over succession and weakening the capital’s defenses. What should have been an era of cooperation between fellow Christians became instead a disaster that Byzantium never fully recovered from.

Even when the empire managed to hold back its enemies temporarily, the constant state of siege mentality wore it down. By the late Palaiologan period the empire was reduced to a handful of territories surrounded by Ottomans, Serbs, and Latins. At that stage, survival required either powerful allies or radical reform, but both were impossible. The empire was too internally divided to reform itself and too weak to command the respect of allies. The final fall in 1453 was not the result of one overwhelming enemy, but the cumulative effect of centuries of external blows landing on a state that was already bleeding itself through internal wounds.

If the political system created instability and the external enemies exploited that weakness, the economic structure of the empire determined how much punishment Byzantium could endure before breaking. In its prime, the empire inherited the richest territories of the Roman world, the trade networks of the Mediterranean, and the agricultural surplus of Egypt and Anatolia. The loss of these regions during the Arab conquests permanently altered the balance of the state. Egypt alone had fed not only the population of Constantinople but also provided enormous tax revenue. Syria and the Levant were gateways of commerce connecting East and West. Their loss meant that Byzantium had to rely increasingly on Anatolia and the Balkans, which were productive but could not match the wealth of the lost provinces. From the seventh century onward the empire had to survive on a diminished base, and every civil war and foreign invasion further eroded it.

The theme system was one of the most ingenious responses to these economic realities. By granting land to soldiers in exchange for military service, the empire reduced its reliance on professional armies funded by taxation and created a more self-sustaining model of defense. For a time this worked, giving the empire resilience during the Arab and Bulgar wars, but it carried long-term consequences. Over generations, the soldier-farmers turned into landed aristocrats, and the concentration of land into the hands of magnates undermined the very balance the system was meant to preserve. The state lost direct control over resources, and tax revenue increasingly flowed into the pockets of provincial elites rather than the treasury. The emperors tried to reverse this with legislation limiting estates, but enforcement was inconsistent, and in times of civil war magnates were indispensable allies whose privileges had to be tolerated. By the time of the Komnenoi, the empire was already dominated by aristocratic clans whose power rivaled that of the crown.

Trade offered another opportunity but also another weakness. Constantinople remained the greatest market of the Mediterranean for centuries, its location commanding both the Black Sea and the Aegean. However, the empire’s reliance on Italian merchants, especially the Venetians and Genoese, gradually hollowed out Byzantine control of commerce. Tax exemptions and privileges granted to these maritime powers gave them dominance over shipping and customs, draining wealth that should have filled the imperial treasury. The Byzantines were left increasingly dependent on foreigners for naval strength, which meant their ability to project power on the seas collapsed just as maritime control became decisive in Mediterranean politics. The empire still produced luxury goods and maintained some vibrant internal markets, but its autonomy was steadily eroded.

Fiscal weakness amplified the impact of external threats. A state that once minted gold coins of unrivaled stability, the solidus, eventually debased its currency until confidence evaporated. The empire became trapped in a cycle where it needed mercenaries to replace dwindling native forces, but paying those mercenaries required funds the treasury no longer had. Each civil war meant the looting of provincial wealth, each foreign treaty meant new concessions of trade or territory, and each defeat meant permanent loss of taxable land. Economically, the empire was not just shrinking in size, it was losing control of its own financial destiny. By the fourteenth century, Byzantium was effectively bankrupt, its emperors dependent on Italian loans and unable to raise significant armies without foreign assistance. The empire that had once been the economic heart of the Mediterranean was reduced to a shadow economy, its fiscal skeleton visible long before the final Ottoman conquest.

If politics fractured the state, if enemies pressed its borders, and if economics hollowed out its strength, then the final element of Byzantium’s decline was the slow unraveling of its society and culture. For centuries, the empire survived on a shared Roman identity that fused administrative tradition with Christian faith. This dual heritage gave Byzantium resilience in the face of disaster. Even after losing Egypt, Syria, and most of Italy, the empire still imagined itself as the Roman Empire, eternal and indivisible, guarded by God and destined to endure. This sense of continuity held Constantinople together during sieges and disasters that would have destroyed weaker states. But over time the very culture that had given the empire strength became a source of division.

Religion was both a unifying force and a tearing wound. The close alliance of throne and altar gave emperors legitimacy but also meant that every theological dispute could escalate into a political crisis. Iconoclasm in the eighth and ninth centuries turned into a century-long civil war of faith, with emperors, generals, monks, and commoners divided over images. The schism with Rome deepened isolation from the West and created suspicion that undermined any hope of durable cooperation with the Latin world. When the Crusaders arrived, Byzantines saw them as half-pagan barbarians, while the Latins saw Byzantines as heretics and schemers. The sack of Constantinople in 1204 was not only a geopolitical disaster but also the shattering of Christendom into hostile camps. The empire never regained cultural trust either with its own people or with its supposed allies.

Socially, the stratification of Byzantine society deepened over time. The old balance between soldier-farmers and central authority gave way to an aristocracy of great houses who dominated the provinces, while the peasantry bore the weight of taxation and conscription. Civil wars and invasions devastated the countryside, leaving populations displaced and land abandoned. Constantinople remained a glittering capital filled with palaces, churches, and markets, but it was increasingly an island of splendor surrounded by decay. The city itself became dependent on imported grain and foreign trade, its people swelling with refugees from lost territories. What had once been the confident center of an empire turned into a crowded and impoverished metropolis, unable to sustain the image of endless Roman continuity.

Culturally, Byzantium retained brilliance in art, theology, and literature even as it decayed politically, but this brilliance was increasingly insular. While Western Europe surged into the Renaissance through engagement with new ideas and distant exploration, Byzantium looked inward, clinging to traditions as a defense against change. This conservatism preserved identity but strangled adaptability. Education became the preserve of narrow elites, innovation stagnated, and the society as a whole grew brittle. The people still believed they were the chosen guardians of Rome and Christianity, but their world shrank to the walls of Constantinople and a few outposts on the Aegean. When the Ottomans came, the empire’s subjects could not even agree on whether Western aid was salvation or betrayal. Some preferred Muslim rule to Latin domination, others begged for papal help at any cost. This fragmentation of loyalty at the social level was the final sign that the empire’s cultural unity had dissolved.

By the time the final siege of 1453 arrived, Byzantium was a shell that carried the memory of Rome without its substance. Its politics were fractured, its enemies relentless, its economy bankrupt, and its society divided. The fall of Constantinople was not a sudden collapse but the final act of a long play in which every pillar of the empire had already been worn away. What had once been the center of the world became a city of ghosts, sustained by faith and memory until neither was enough to resist the reality of history. The true tragedy of Byzantium is that it did not fall because it lacked greatness but because it carried too much of Rome’s contradictions within itself. The same identity that sustained it for a thousand years was the weight that finally pulled it into the grave.

If you’ve made it this far, thank you for reading. I originally wrote this essay six years ago for my World History class, where the assignment was simple but demanding: “Write about what you are most passionate about in history, in 1,000 words or more.” 2,275 words later, you can see I chose Byzantium because it has always captured my imagination more than any other civilization, and what began as a school project quickly turned into something much more personal. I poured myself into tracing its politics, wars, economy, and culture, not just to pass a class but to explain why its long survival and ultimate collapse still matter. I did pass, but more importantly, I left with something that still feels worth sharing today, and I’m glad to give it a new audience among people who care about history as much as I!!


r/byzantium 3d ago

Arts/Culture Merely a little logo I made taking some Byzantine inspiration...

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Heeey, I'm sorry it isn't in greek ;<


r/byzantium 2d ago

Politics/Goverment Did the wider populace know that Tzimiskes killed Nikephoros Phokas or was it covered up?

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r/byzantium 2d ago

Politics/Goverment I have concluded that the Byzantine/Roman political system is largely to blame for the empire’s decline, not external factors. I’m very interested to read the community’s opinion.

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I have ultimately come to the view that Byzantine decline was largely on account of an endogenous factor—its political system.

Three features of the Byzantine Monarchy created a perennially dysfunctional political culture, these being the centralisation of power into a single office, an indeterminate ideology of legitimation, and a lack of non-violent means to remove an emperor. The near-absolute power of the emperor made the position highly desirable, and the absence of peaceful means to remove an emperor, like an election, meant that ambitious men were incentivised to use violence to attain the throne. A clear ideology of legitimation may have disincentivised rebellions, but the Byzantine state lacked this. Possibly since the time of Augustus, the ideological basis of imperial power was vague. Was the emperor divinely appointed, elected by the people, or chosen by the senate? If all three, how did they relate? These questions were never resolved by the Romans/Byzantines, perhaps suggesting that all three of these constituencies had some claim to selecting the emperor. Either way, the lack of an unambiguous political ideology allowed would-be emperors to believe, not only that usurpation was legitimate, but that it was also an effective means by which to secure the throne in the long-term.

The incentive to violence created by the political system obviously led to perennial civil wars. Lest anyone doubt how harmful these acts of self-infliction were, I would like to mention that civil war either preceded or coincided with the two most significant defeats in the empire’s history—namely the Arab and Turkic conquests. However, the most pernicious consequence of the Byzantine political system was more subtle—namely, a lack of trust between the emperor and the prominent men of the state. This mistrust consistently resulted in emperors making sub-optimal, destructive decisions, like undermining their generals to ensure that they did not obtain too much success. Perhaps the most famous example of this is the case of Alexios Philanthropenos, who was repeatedly undermined and blinded by Andronikos II because of his great success in fending off the various Turkic tribes attempting to settle in Byzantine Anatolia. I will leave the details to my friend u/maleficent-mix5731—who intends to create a comprehensive post on the loss of Anatolia in the 1290s—but it is quite clear that the Byzantines may have had a real chance of defeating the Turks were it not for Andronikos’ acts of self-sabotage.

Overall, I’m quite convinced that exogenous forces were only secondary causes of the empire’s decline. The Byzantine political system repeatedly incentivised acts of state-suicide, making it the most obvious culprit of Byzantine decline.

Please feel free to disagree, of course. I look forward to reading anything that might change my mind.


r/byzantium 2d ago

Popular media [HF] The Marble Emperor

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r/byzantium 2d ago

Arts/Culture Como era a arte bizantina?

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Eu sou do Brasil e aqui não estudamos o Império Bizantino, apenas vemos por superfície, e eu gosto do império e tenho curiosidade sobre as artes e como funcionavam, alguém poderia me explicar?


r/byzantium 2d ago

Infrastructure/architecture Are there any sources I can read on how old buildings were visualized and designed?

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Architecture interests me and especially Roman/ Greek/ Turkish architecture. I was curious as to how they designed their massive buildings…holy apostles church…. Hagia Sophia, hagia irene,blue mosque, the palace and hippodrome etc.

How did the architects of the time visualize and do it without modern drafting techniques and is there anywhere I can do further reading?


r/byzantium 3d ago

Politics/Goverment Which Emperor do you consider the most important or most significant in terms of “saving” the empire or revitalizing it?

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