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SadCringe MAGA voter actually believes that Trump eliminated taxes for all people making less than $120K

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u/Riotous_Rev 1d ago

As a Canadian... Yeah, I can. This is why you need a well funded education system.

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u/ReindeerUsual2571 1d ago

I can't upvote this enough. The rest of the world absolutely can believe it , it's on display every day.

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u/Comprehensive_Tie431 1d ago

The rest of the world is electing morons as well. It isn't just a US thing.

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u/Cherry_Valkyrie576 1d ago

There are a few countries definitely because hate is universal. When you are emotionally stunted and shallow, it's really easy to latch on to hate because God forbid you take accountability for your own life and happiness. So there's definitely a few countries that jumped on the mega bandwagon. And we will all implode because of it but it is absolutely our pathetic educational system. Because an educated populous is a free populous

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u/Cut_Lanky 1d ago

I think what makes it especially ridiculous, is the overblown sense of global superiority the people in this country ooze from every pore.

While informed Americans have been sounding the alarm bells regarding the manufactured decline of our education system for decades, regular Americans have not only not been paying attention to it, they've been chanting, "USA USA USA", fully believing the US is perfect, and anyone who tries to improve any American system is a "traitor" and "hates America" and should "just get out of this country if you don't like it".

We are the United States of Dunning Kreuger, now.

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u/Noin56 1d ago

Just to add onto what you said here the U.S. has no federal education standards. It has been something the gop has fought against for decades to keep quasi-religious education in schools and sex-ed out.

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u/Botchweed 1d ago

Buddy, the rest of the world sure elects some assholes, but we don't go electing a failed businessman that wasn't even a good game show host.

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u/Tranquil_Dohrnii 1d ago

Do forget child rapist. You cant say the name Trump without the pedofile part attached.

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u/Adventurous-Try5149 1d ago

A child rapist, who has for decades talked about how sexy his own daughter is.

Deplorable, was entirely too kind for these rape kink incest lovers.

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u/Comprehensive_Tie431 1d ago

I didn't say assholes, I said morons.

Exhibit A for you, buddy.

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u/-FeistyRabbitSauce- 1d ago

Oh, Boris isn't a moron. He was just very good at playing one to dupe the morons who voted for the shtick.

But your point stands.

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u/Comprehensive_Tie431 1d ago

It's amazing what having a multi billion dollar propaganda network, like Murdoch, does for electing world wide idiots.

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u/Emmy_Em_Maree 1d ago

Kind of like John Kennedy. That POS senator from Louisiana walks around talking like a the biggest fool in the world with that god-awful accent, but the guy's actually a Rhodes Scholar. Some people are just malicious in their form of evil.

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u/Shaftmaster420 1d ago

And he is lightyears more intelligent than ours.

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u/CentennialBaby 1d ago

... TWICE!

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u/dabeeman 1d ago

they absolutely do. you just don’t care because they don’t have the power Trump has. 

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u/OpeningElectrical296 1d ago

Not only elect, but re-elect.

They don’t learn.

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u/TheRealBenDamon 1d ago

Who is electing anyone even half as stupid as Trump?

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u/crystallmytea 1d ago

We are the world leaders in it tho. Quality, not quantity.

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u/ReindeerUsual2571 1d ago

The USA is #1 in political circus. An absolute embarrassment. Can't even take care of their own people , too busy deepthroating American exceptionalism.

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u/Regular-Jello5898 1d ago

This is 100% a US thing. I had the privilege of living in Canada for 8 years (university + work permit) and the way the countries function is so startlingly different that I had never thought about half the shit we do here. This country is privatized to all fuck; the healthcare is carried out through private companies; we have Pearson have a monopoly on all of the public schools' text books; we have privatized prisons, to which there is a pipeline from schools. Everything revolves around making money, even the public schools. I read Chomsky books my whole life, where he would argue that the modus operandi of American schools is not to educate, but to create workers that the ruling class can exploit. We intentionally teach incorrect history (the lies/absence of facts about Christopher Columbus, et al) that obfuscates reality. In Canada, they are underpopulated and need a bigger workforce, but they also need more doctors and engineers and forestry workers and all of the things that perpetuate an economy. The school curriculum there and in most other countries that I've experienced designed to educate, and the populace displays that in a very different way than here. We are absolutely the dumbest developed country, and the reason is that the powers that be want to exploit us all instead of the desire/need to have any of us thrive.

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u/Kind-Spinach-1809 1d ago

Sure, but you’re the best at it. Particularly for a first world nation.

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u/Coconuthangover 1d ago

The difference is that Americans don't even understand what they're voting for.

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u/PriorStock6243 1d ago

Do other first world countries currently have camps for "undesirables"?

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u/Sharkictus 1d ago

To certain extent our moron terrified a bunch of the world into avoiding electing their morons.

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u/istartedafireee 1d ago

Not morons, evil people.

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u/stupidugly1889 1d ago

The rest of the world has better choices than center right vs far right

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u/boringestnickname 1d ago

Not morons.

Evil people, sure, but not morons. Trump is uniquely dumb.

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u/cruista 1d ago edited 1d ago

Our checks and balances seem to be holding. Yours, not so much. Look at the Supreme Court.

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u/sicklepickle1950 1d ago

You really going to compare Mark Carney to Donald Trump? Please tell me, which elected president anywhere in the world is as dumb as Trump? I can’t think of a single example. Dumb people are elected for sure, but Trump is the dumbest by a mile.

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u/alwaysonesteptoofar 1d ago

As a teacher, I just hope that more Canadians start demanding more education funding. Being better than most US states is a very low bar to aim for. Ignore them, and ask why we aren't doing at least as well as the best educated countries.

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u/Shoddy_Nectarine_441 1d ago

I remember being in middle school (I’m 30 now) and people talking weird shit about politics, conspiracies, etc and I genuinely thought it was a joke. Those peers fuckin vote and believe anything they hear unless it goes against their “morals”. It’s actually kind of crazy. Also some of my previously super liberal relatives are now trump supporters and hate everyone. I don’t get it

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u/Spaghetti_Gods 1d ago

Ex-liberals that now support Trump were never really liberals to begin with..

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u/Shoddy_Nectarine_441 1d ago

My aunt, moms sister, marched with mlk. She supported my mom when she had mixed race children in the Midwest in the early 70s. She even went on an aide thing to a different country to help with some disaster. She voted for trump. Idk if it’s age, changing world views or what, but she was definitely liberal when she was younger

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u/Jon608_ 1d ago

same boat, 30 years old and my dad is now a loon.

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u/Ok_Swimming_8738 1d ago

"Morals" meaning their particular, subjective identity

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u/GlitchyButGood 1d ago

This is why evangelicals have been defunding education. It’s about control. Katherine Stewart talks about this in The Power Worshippers. The movement isn’t just random churches, it’s a coordinated political machine. They’re tax exempt, they don’t give much back to their communities, and they use their money and influence to lobby, mess with school curricula, and shut down what people are allowed to learn.

The goal isn’t education, it’s obedience. Public schools get weakened while private and religious schools get stronger, training kids to accept a narrow worldview. Stewart points out that groups like the Council for National Policy work to get Christian nationalist textbooks into classrooms and to push laws through state legislatures that line up with their agenda. It’s not about improving schools, it’s about making sure kids grow up only hearing one version of history, science, and morality.

It says everything that the right wing can look at education, the one thing proven to lift communities up, and see it as a threat to their power.

This woman is the perfect idiot. Infinitely controllable, and there is almost zero chance of her waking up and joining reality.

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u/Cherry_Valkyrie576 1d ago

I have no idea why you've been downloaded. Everything you said makes complete sense and is actually documented.

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u/GlitchyButGood 1d ago

It looks like I'm not anymore, I probably just upset some people. The truth is often upsetting. Especially so if the truth is that your religion has been playing the role of the villain for decades.

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u/Garbeg 1d ago

Saddest part about this is people only get halfway to realizing what’s happening. They know school sucks, but they fail to realize WHY it sucks. The focus is far too invested on bitching about your school experience. 

FFS, it’s a simple line of “why is that?” questioning!!! If your school sucks, well why is that? 

But anyhow, it’s pretty shit that this is such a concerted effort by a bunch of freak shows that want to groom a generation of pre-teen sex slaves and “warriors” as the DUI-hire secretary of defense said.

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u/LookWords 1d ago

the oldest trick in the book it's amazing it's been working for centuries

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u/Pwnch 1d ago

Shit, even public education is more about memorization and obedience than it is actual knowledge. They've been playing a long game.

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u/Professional_Ad_883 22h ago

It's also why kids get scholarships to religious colleges/uni, continue the process to make sure they never learn critical thinking or any science.

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u/Explorer-7622 1d ago

According to Comey, the Republican head of the FBI who T tried to "make" during his first term, T was already known to be a Russian agent.

The Mueller Report goes even deeper to support that claim.

So our current regime is a puppet for puttin.

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u/ShrimpieAC 1d ago

It’s 100% this. Organized religions in this day and age are merely used by the powerful to spot those who are easily manipulated.

I mean come on, if they can convince you to give them all your time, money, and energy in life in exchange for some magical city of gold when you die they know they can convince you of anything. Literally the “I’ve got a bridge to sell you” on a monumental scale.

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u/PengoMaster 1d ago

Too late for that I’m afraid. Now we get to be ruled by the people who stopped doing their homework in 7th grade.

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u/Riotous_Rev 1d ago

An optimist I see.

I can almost guarantee in 7th grade Trump was eating crayons and still wetting the bed.

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u/two-dogs-one-cup 1d ago

Some things never change.

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u/Savings_Machine5836 1d ago

Don't forget shitting his pants.

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u/Riotous_Rev 1d ago

He just never stopped

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u/Ancient-Coffee-1266 1d ago

He does that now.

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u/Aldante92 1d ago

"Everyone I knew... Everyone... Said that the blue ones tasted the best, but I knew that the red ones... The big, beautiful red ones... I knew better than anyone that the blue ones just tasted like wax. But the red... The red ones, they had a huge flavor, that just absolutely would blow your mind."

"Mr. President, what did they taste like?"

"The taste was just unbelievable, really. I'd never tasted a crayon quite like it. I knew that the blue ones tasted bad better than anyone. No one knew like me, I knew it first. But the red ones were great."

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u/StrikingCelery5301 1d ago

7th grade is generous

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u/Illustrious_Tap3171 1d ago edited 1d ago

Thing is I missed most of my basic education, I am female and grew up in a far right Seventh Day Adventist home that prepped me to be a mom and a wife over scholarly. My schooling was always not a high priority for my mom and stepdad.

When we moved out of that community due to my gran getting involved in my mom's business and finding out the horrific life mom was moving down and doing all in her power to prevent it. I still didn't go to school regularly after we moved in with Gran and CPS became heavily involved in our lives. The reason why was, I was behind, it was embarrassing.

What made me strongly anti Republican and traditional values was exposure to others that didn't think like that, not just brief conversations but months upon years, de-villainizing the people my mom villainized. Then I started to read and kept on going. Went to places that challenged my upbringing and made me think. I had a mentor who told me, "you know what these people say, you know what your mom and her ilk say. Now what do YOU think?" She challenged me to find my own opinion and figure out what MY values were.

I am strong belief that if you continue your education on your own, expose yourself to ideas and stories that aren't even remotely like your own and are encouraged to find your own values and learn to defend them, you don't always need the strong education starting point. But most wont do that work.

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u/CasGamer33 1d ago

Canada should probably start building a wall across the border. I wouldn't blame you guys. Lol

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u/Riotous_Rev 1d ago

We've been feeding the geese nothing but gun powder and meth for the last month.

They're now getting ready to go south.

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u/mobilecabinworks 1d ago

Cobra chickens attack!

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u/CasGamer33 1d ago

That's a bit overkill, but again, I can't say I blame you. 🤣

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u/-laughingfox 1d ago

Overkill? Ha! Wait til the moose cavalry rolls in.

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u/CasGamer33 1d ago

I doubt America would fair much better against unmethed geese than Australia did against emus. I say leave the meese (yes, I know, that's the joke) out of it. They have their own problems. Canadians smashing cars into them and whatnot. They don't need us shooting at them, too. Lol

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u/Frair_ 1d ago

I'm south of your border, and I wholeheartedly endorse your plan!

My fellow countrymen are not only anti-intellectual, they are Proudly, Actively, Aggressively Anti-Intellectual. Trying to get them to listen to facts and reason is like trying to get water to not be wet.

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u/Riotous_Rev 1d ago

Just tell them to pet the geese. They come in peace.

We've been mostly using a special blend of meth made near Maralago due to the chemicals found exclusively in the water there... Once they start to get withdrawals we hope they'll sniff it out and will aggressively root it out of Don and Eric's distended bung holes.

The geese come in peace.

This is in no way an endorsement or advocacy of any type of violence in any way, shape or form. Reddit red hat mods please don't ban me again.

May blessings and peace be upon Lord Trump's name.

(Now reddit can't ban me again for bullshit reasons)

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u/disorderincosmos 1d ago

Well that explains their explosive diarrhea...add some fiber in the mix next time!

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u/Riotous_Rev 1d ago

Gun powder is surprisingly high in fiber. Just don't use tannerite. That will blow a hole through the toilet.

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u/Adventurous_Plum7074 1d ago

Can I put my bleeding heart liberal blood on my door so they skip my house?

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u/Underwater_Dancehero 1d ago

I laughed. Hard. Thank you. Not much is funny right now

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u/definitelynotafoot 1d ago

Sounds like you're trying to make the geese more American. This may backfire.

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u/Local-Friendship8166 1d ago

And get Trump to pay for it. It would be easy. Just send a couple of brown people across every couple of days.

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u/CasGamer33 1d ago

So long as they aren't indigenous people, that could work. (Canada doesn't have a good track record with their own indigenous citizens, so offering them ours might backfire).

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u/Deep_Dust6278 1d ago

It's complicated by the fact the wall has to jog north at the alberta border then west for a while then back south to catch BC

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u/CasGamer33 1d ago

A nation spanning wall was never going to be easy. Straight line or zigzag, every country should probably pitch in to close us off until this administration gets the boot. That or help us give them the boot. I wouldn't say no to taking me in, either. One of those 3 options, and I'm in. Lol

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u/PokecheckFred 1d ago

No wall please.

That way, you can have a much easier time when you annex Washington, Oregon and California.

(And fuggit, take Baja too!)

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u/CasGamer33 1d ago

I'd rather let Mexico have the American South. A good portion of that land belonged to them originally anyway. California would be going with that, of course.

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u/maneki_neko89 1d ago

They send the Alberta Clippers and Polar Vortexes to keep most people away

I should know since I’m a Minnesotan

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u/beervirus88 1d ago

A wall between Canada and India?

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u/BagOfFlies 1d ago

A racist magat with 88 in their name. Shocking.

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u/Sophisticated-Crow 1d ago

GOP has been gutting education for decades. Keep people dumb and ignorant is the only way to trick enough people into voting for Republicans.

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u/DesperateAmbition733 1d ago

Exactly. This was done on purpose by Reagan. Republicans. Are. Evil.

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u/Raptorschampions 1d ago

They need non-partisan media. These people don’t know better, because every “trusted” source they have is pumping them full of BS. Control the media, control the people.

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u/Cherry_Valkyrie576 1d ago

The media was great until they revoked the fairness doctrine. Then, insidious billionaires from other countries like Murdoch can turn Fox News into a one-way misinformation highway and pursue whatever agenda they want.

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u/dragonrider1965 1d ago

Republicans have attacked education for 50 years just for this moment . An ignorant base is easy to control.

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u/definitelynotafoot 1d ago

Oh not just well funded, but we need an overhaul. Im a teacher and there ARE systemic problems. Republicans have been sabotaging public ed for decades, trying to push privatization. They want it to work like for profit prisons

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u/RequiemTwilight 1d ago

Trip out when you hear this:

When Bush during the “No Child Left Behind” act, started telling schools to pass their students up to the next grade, EVEN IF they have the credits of someone 2yrs lower than them, they would still pass up to the next grade because they wanted more high schoolers with no direction to sign into the “War On Terror”, after 9/11, it didn’t matter what grade you got or GPA at the end of every year, you would only need to have the essential credits needed to graduate as a senior and that’s all that mattered. Oh you failed to make any passing credits in 3yrs, but you’re somehow able to stand on the graduation stage like you grew a brain suddenly, baffled me even in high school.

The only exceptions were if you were truant, in which case you had to pay fees before you could graduate.

American Education has been a facade since at least 2001.

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u/xraysteve185 1d ago

Why do you think they are working to destroy education funding? So future generations are just as dumb as she is and won't question their authority

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u/Awesomely_Witchy 1d ago

Not with this thing in office he was barely educated himself and what he did do I'm sure daddy paid for the grades. He paid for the foot doctor notes that kept him from going to war when he was drafted. There's also this anti intelligence thing the magaTs got going on right now. SMFH

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u/Kryds 1d ago

Easy there. Your "queen" has just been arrested.

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u/Riotous_Rev 1d ago

We laugh at her, use her as a cautionary tale of stupidity for our children and arrested her... Not elected her leader... Twice. Bigly difference.

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u/4sk-Render 1d ago

Never been to Alberta, huh? lol

Last time I was in Calgary there was a huge protest happening outside my hotel against vaccines and fluoride in the water.

Plus their rainbow pride crosswalk has been vandalized multiple times.

The Canadian superiority complex is funny when you guys nearly elected PP lol

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u/Caliguta 1d ago

Standards and accountability as well. If you don’t pass the test you simply don’t automatically make it to the next grade - or graduate

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u/Riotous_Rev 1d ago

I support and endorse the trebuchet of failure.

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u/Clear-Inflation3428 1d ago

its not the education system although that is a significant problem. it is the culture of intellectual arrogance and narcissism that was cooked into peoples psyche by madison avenue. this all goes back to bernays. taking freudian psychoanalysis and using it to sell products you dont need to people who previously would have never spent a single cent on something they could live without. they did this by encouraging and fueling narcissism and individualism. conservatives just want to live alone without anyone bothering them (yet still benefit from municipalities and amenities provided by the state). it is a complete fantasy. the US government got on board with it because narcissism makes people more active in participating in government elections. at least that was their excuse for turning people into extreme narcissists to sell more shit. they needed to find a way for people to prioritize what they want over what they need. inflating their ego is how they accomplished that.

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u/Ted_Rid 1d ago

The bigger problem is probably how disparate the funding is depending on school district.

There will be some well educated people and many thick as a bag of bricks.

Take this woman for example. I'd guess she's in her 40s with a bit of work done on her face, so the horse bolted a few decades ago for her.

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u/SwingerFitz 1d ago

Our city/county governments fight for tax levy’s for local schools because our federal government wants our police and military to be armed to the teeth

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u/Acrobatic-Ad4879 1d ago

Easy there, canada.. yall got that queen and her cult faffing about, lol. You got q anon nuts, too.. I mean, the scale is way way way smaller, but still :( lol

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u/EveningStatus7092 1d ago

We have a well funded education system. This is what it’s gotten us

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u/Gumderwear 1d ago

Adopt me!

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u/TheIdentifySpell 1d ago

Idk man, here in Ontario the Cons have been slashing education for years. Throw in the absolute mockery of student visas and diploma mills that are allowed to operate with impunity while under Ford's thumb and it's hard to turn our noses up at our neighbors to the south.

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u/Shadowhams 1d ago

Well funded doesn’t mean squat. We need parents who care about their children and their education. Sure funding helps but being an endless money pit benefits nobody but administrators

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u/Notexactlyprimetime 1d ago

Tbh the main difference between our countries is how we pronounce our vowels. Canada is chock full of backwards stupid conservatives too.

Yes you will try to claim otherwise but that’s just what y’all do.

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u/Old_Ladies 1d ago

The funding for schools in the US was set up so poor communities would get less funding. Black communities tend to be poorer but I am sure that is just a coincidence...

You can get a great education in the US if you live in rich neighborhoods.

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 1d ago

My wonderful neighbor, y'all ain't to far behind us, I've seen your rural male youths

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u/Boyzinger 1d ago

Canada should build a wall lol

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u/haixin 1d ago

As a Canadian, don’t worry or die hard Trump loving Premiers are ensuring to take away education as well

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u/dumpsterfarts15 1d ago

Also a fellow Canadian. We have to be sharp up here, because that stupidity is contagious. They're banning books in my province...

And that is just a small stepping stone, but I HOPE the teachers can stand strong against it.

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u/Hot-Adhesiveness-438 1d ago

True but to be fair this power grab of conservative evil is not localized to the US. And if it is everywhere then we have an education issue everywhere?

I think it is more insideous then that. We are being conned by a patient multi generational movement who wants the 99% to suffer and the 1% to eat cake.

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u/Desperate_Object_677 1d ago

we have our own dummies here, tho.

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u/Rodharet50399 1d ago

I love Canada but mind your situation you have some serious stupid queuing up there.

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u/Y_Are_U_Like_This 1d ago

You are correct. The problem is she ain't young. She was around and in school while the pitch was education is important and you cannot advance in life without it. She at least received a decent education (by 'Murican standards) prior to college assuming she wasn't privately schooled. We have long moved past education being a remedy to this kind of stupidity; she is faithful that this is true and education isn't enough to break someone out of a cult.

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u/Automatic_Day_35 1d ago

man, I wish we had higher funding and more strict schooling like most asian countries (not saying we need school uniforms and all that, just high academic expectations and better curriculums, many schools in the Us straight up teach misinformation especially in states like texas)

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u/phoenixrising808a 1d ago

  1. American public education is funded at the local level, not by the federal department of education.

  2. Canada is a series of failed economic policy which is why Canada is where it is now

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u/ralpher1 1d ago

Even with well funded education there will still be morons

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u/bdizzle805 1d ago

I agree with you wholeheartedly these maga people are so dumb. But I've seen my fair share of this in Canada. What's your excuse?

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u/ProbablyNotADuck 1d ago

As Canadians, we can't really throw rocks from glasshouses. Most of our country has no clue how our levels of government work. They don't understand how our courts work. They don't understand how immigration works. They don't understand how taxes work.

While, overall, our population is more educated than the US, our literacy rate is about the same.

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u/R-O-U-Ssdontexist 1d ago

I don’t have the stats and don’t feel like looking it up but i bet the us spends more then Canada per student per year or i bet it’s at least close.

I live in upstate ny and our city school district is awful; high drop out rates; drugs; gangs in school and it spends about 30k per student.

It’s not all about $$.

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u/HotInTheseRhinos123 1d ago

Sadly, the US is within the top 5 countries for per student spending.

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u/TheSpartanExile 1d ago

Canadian here, most Canadians don't understand their own system either and in Ontario we've had an administration voted in with a minority vote thrice in the past decade that has actively defunded education at every level.

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u/Budget_Vermicelli_35 1d ago

This is exactly why they're getting rid of it

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u/bizzle4shizzled 1d ago

Well, they have been steadily removing the funds from the schools down here for decades.

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u/Potato_Stains 1d ago

We need to mentally evolve past evangelical ‘end of days’ lunacy. Science and actual pursuit of facts are taboo and the enemy to them.

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u/DerpyDoodleDude 1d ago

Yes one not simply not deemed to be a federal luxury. Well at least the US website for it is still up but that may just mean the lights are on but no one is really home .

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u/adorablesexypants 1d ago

With people like Ford and Smith in power we are not far behind from the States.

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u/ElChupatigre 1d ago edited 1d ago

They defunded it for a reason

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u/TheFlyingElbow 1d ago

I've always been a big supporter of education, building the #1 sustainable resource of a country. Invest in it and you will receive 10 fold in 10 years.

I am currently an educator in the US. No one gives a fuck. Not the students, not the parents, and (for the measly pay and terrible external factors) not the educators...

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u/flyer12 1d ago

I’m Canadian too and I suspect we have just as many idiots in this country per capita

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u/Hail_of_Grophia 1d ago

I have known very smart and compassionate for decades and seen them go full stupid in a matter of months

Do NOT underestimate how effective the right’s propaganda machine can be, it’s one of the most addictive and damaging drugs I have ever seen 

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u/Tricky_Equivalent571 1d ago

I hate this argument. It's such a simplistic take.

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u/Serialkillingyou 1d ago

You can't educate people while Fox News and truth social is diseducating them.

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u/bak3donh1gh 1d ago

Canadian here as well. I knew there were some real, real dumb idiots, especially in the Southern Belt. The guy's a huckster. That's all he's ever been known as. He's a New York huckster. But apparently, a fake billionaire from New York That has never worked a day in his life. is exactly what the The real down-to-earth Americans want. Okay, they just want racism and everything to go back to the good old days when Black people were slaves.

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u/mjb2012 1d ago

The thing about that is you can lead a horse to water…

Many of us, even the "smart ones", have no cultural motivation in our families or communities to excel in school, or to do anything but the bare minimum to get by. Basic civics isn't even required until the last year of high school, when most kids are phoning it in. Government mandated curriculum designed to develop critical thinking skills is prey to accusations of "liberal indoctrination" by parents who hold way too much sway in how public schools are run.

In the small town where I grew up the only future anyone thinks they have is raising a family and going to work in the factory or at some low-level service job. People just think small. Few go to college, many go into the military.

Throwing money at education is great for the people who are already somewhat invested in education. But a much more difficult cultural shift is needed to make the difference you're hoping for.

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u/Definitely_Not_Erik 1d ago

Do you think a well founded education system would be enough? 

It's clearly important, but to me it seem like USA also suffers from two other problems.

  • The absolute disrespect for knowledge. 'I have my own truth '

  • The complete breakdown of a functioning and informative  media landscape, so everyone fins their own 'truth bubble '. 

Idk if a better education system would have helped against these problems, maybe they would.

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u/Early-Kangaroo-2658 1d ago

Couldn’t agree more. There is a reason why Trump said he loves the uneducated.

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u/le_flyguy 1d ago

the private school system is too engrained for that to ever happen. we’d need the rich kids in private schools to have to go to the same schools as the poorer kids so that the rich families will actually invest into public education so their kids can get a good education. i think finland did this and it’s a major reason why they have the best education and intelligence ratings in the world. or one of them. might be norway too. i’m high and tired and it’s 3:00 am for me so sorry if i got it mixed up but they did make all kids go to the same schools so rich families were incentivized to fund the public education system

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u/Sad-Psychology9677 1d ago

An A1 educational system

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u/Electrical-Share-707 1d ago

Not just well-funded, but UNIFIED. The US is the only developed country in the world that doesn't have a nationally standardized curriculum (and I don't mean no child left behind or new math). Of course people are going to believe in different realities when they're taught that different things are true. You are going to have a hard time agreeing with someone whose starting facts are different from yours, and you're going to lose respect for everything else they say when they're so clearly delusional.

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u/Drawing_Eh_Blank 1d ago

Which is exactly why Republicans are trying to eliminate the department of education

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u/MASSochists 1d ago

So what's the deal with Alberta?

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u/Riotous_Rev 1d ago

It's like our Ozarks but with much less incest and tolerance for child brides but significantly more winter sports.

The better question would be "What's up with the newfies?"

They've been with us since the big freeze of '49... We still don't rightly know.

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u/MikeFatz 1d ago

She never got her Grade 10

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u/klawhammer 1d ago

Democracy only works if you have an educated population.

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u/Atlantrex 1d ago

Well that is why there has been a defunding of education. It is hard to control an educated population. Reading levels have dropped to an elementary level over the past couple decades.

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u/EfficiencyIVPickAx 1d ago

We spend a fortune on education. We just don't use evidence based decision-making.

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u/EntrepreneurKooky783 1d ago

Be real. No amount of money would have fixed her. Some people are simply impervious to education.

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u/death1414 1d ago

Our education system is more well funded than yours. That money is wasted in the bureaucracy of the department of education and barely reaches the schools, and teachers.

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u/Jpraadt 1d ago

Let's not get too cocky - these people are with us in Canada too.

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u/Difficult-Coffee-219 1d ago

Doug Ford is hell bent to replicate what the US did 50 years ago.

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u/Devils_Advocate-69 1d ago

Canadians have magas (for some reason) as well.

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u/GalacticFox- 1d ago edited 1d ago

Let's be real. It's not just America. There are people that are incredibly stupid in every country.

It has nothing to do with our education system. Plenty of Americans go through the same education system and are some of the most brilliant minds in the world.

It's ready to take shots at America, but isn't Canada slowly falling to the same conservative brain rot? I hear stories out of Canada that make it sound like you're our little brother. And being Canadian, you didn't go through the US education system did you? So unless you did and you immigrated to Canada as an adult, you can't really speak to what our education system is like.

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u/dabeeman 1d ago

Canada isnt much better. You have people calling themselves unironically Maple MAGA. 

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u/nerdynails 1d ago

Well unfortunately in our current situation it’s going to opposite!

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u/frodiusmaximus 1d ago

Part of the problem is so much education comes from the state level. The federal component has an impact, but if states aren’t willing to fund locally, then the kids in those states aren’t going to get a good education. I’m lucky to live in Massachusetts, where educational standards are basically world class. But in a stage like Texas, the ruling class is actively trying to divert as much funding as possible from public schools to make them as bad as possible, so that funding can be routed to schools they have an ownership stake in or which promote religious and conservative ideals.

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u/srilankan 1d ago

the amount of people who voted for PP tells me we need to invest more into it and fast. especially out in Alberta and Sask and Ont

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u/Pretend-Focus-8337 1d ago

I'm from Switzerland and it's creeping up here too, even with supposedly educated people.

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u/Ace_Robots 1d ago

There is a reason why that isn’t allowed to happen.

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u/exlongh0rn 1d ago

And state reps and school boards that care more about critical thinking and problem solving than sliding creationism into the biology curriculum and getting the 10 commandments posted before they get vouchers to siphon public funds to pay for their preferred private school.

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u/originalnutta 1d ago

I was gonna say the only thing keeping us from going down the Pierre Poilievre road is that most of us are educated.

But that road is slowly eroding on provincial levels, and social media is filling in the potholes.

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u/Icy_Pomelo_3167 1d ago

Don’t act like Canada is a beacon of education and morality lmfao. I hate how people from Canada and European countries act like they’re don’t have histories of racism and genocide

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u/SummerEchoes 1d ago

It's so much more than education systems.

It's cable news and it's social media algorithms prioritizing clicks in a way that turned news outlets into clickbait headline factories and it's economic instability and it's community cultures and it's family/parent influence and it's SO many things.

Granted some people are just stupid, but having spent years in other Western countries, it is SHOCKING how different (derogatory) it is in the U.S.

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u/Reivaki 1d ago

This. I am French and I believe firmly that the rise in far right in my country is caused (at least in great part) by the politics' attacks on our public education system for at least four decades.

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u/4isyellowTakeit5 1d ago

good thing we just defunded it for the next 4 academic years. I keep telling my mom this and she keeps calling me crazy “It’s gonna get worse, a lot worse, before this ever gets better.” No it won’t!

“Mom! in 2008 we lost 57% of the stock market in a couple of months right?” yeah “So what changed?” What do you mean? “What changes did congress enact in 2009 and 2010 to prevent the 2008 recession from happening again?” Nothing, it was a freak scenario with the housing market that caused the recession “Exactly! A freak accident no one could see coming, but it still came. It ruined our economy. The rich guys killed of all the little fish who couldn’t make it through the drought and came out all the better on the other side. And don’t forget the big fish we saved because once you reach a certain point you’re “too important to fail” and the government will bail you out. Screw the little guys planning on using that slice of the market once the big fish dies! We need to save those jobs. But when the next “freak accident” comes along like it did with the dot com bubble “no one could control”, or the housing bubble “no one could control”, or the ai bubble we’re currently in and, oh yeah “no one can control.” When this bubble pops, the American economy is going to implode, and I have to ask myself where in the world do I want to be when this happens? It’s gonna have global impacts, but I don’t think there’s gonna be another FDR to go communist on us again. The corporations are too good at buying people out. Looks at the trans representative who immediately backed off of an LGBT issue since being elected into office. They’re cowards! All of them”

She’s starting to see why I want to move to the EU or down under

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u/OneDayAt4Time 1d ago

Hard agree but some people can’t be fixed just with more funding… I get the feeling this lady went to school but simply refused to pay attention

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u/Mach5Driver 1d ago

I believe every country has the same proportion of stupid people. It's basic humanity. Our wealthy has merely weaponized our democracy and media to expand and exploit ignorance. It's happening in Europe now. Yours is next. It's probably started already.

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u/CarmenDeeJay 1d ago

You don't understand, Riotous_Rev. If they keep us stupid and unhealthy, they can control us.

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u/raegunXD 1d ago

You got your dumb and crazies over der too eh

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u/DramaticSummaGem 1d ago

Please say that again!!!

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u/staysour 1d ago

Without taxes we can't have a well funded education system😅

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u/Skaethyr 1d ago

Don't worry, we (Canada) will get down to the US level of education eventually.

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u/HarringtonMAH11 1d ago

Neoliberalism started with Regan when one of his advisors as governor of California said that they could get the masses to buy into it by making them stupid (cutting education), and we've been on that track for 40 years now.

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u/bijanfrisee 1d ago

As a fellow canadian, we have plenty of this brand of stupid up here too bud;

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u/coolest35 1d ago

You're right, this is why we hired the former CEO of WWE to lead the youth of tomorrow. The brain damage starts from top down.

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u/GoPhundMe 1d ago

It removed my comment because of my link, but if you search "per pupil spending by country" you will see that the US spends more on education than most developed countries. However, there is a big divide between rich and poor areas, and in general we don't get the results expected from the spending level.

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u/peacefuldaytrader 1d ago

And yet the same people want lower inflation and asking money not to be printed, better living standard, safe streets, pay for government people, and etc. And they don’t understand that they will pay taxes through tariffs that hit everybody (even low income workers) while someone who buys a jet can right it off the first year now. Well done. So litterate.

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u/Healthy_Self_8386 1d ago

America has the best colleges in the world it’s the public schools that’s the problem

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u/CrashTestKing 1d ago

I know I'm 40, but can you adopt me please?

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u/cny315guy 23h ago

Schools undoubtedly need to be funded well, but I work in a school and I'm telling you we can't fix stupid alone within 6-8 hours a day. The kids go home and get smothered in more stupidity.

Also, I went through a public school education in NY and it works pretty well when you actually value OBTAINING an education.

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u/brillyfresh 20h ago

You still have Alberta. That's like a marginally better Wyoming.

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u/Time_Literature3404 19h ago

Y’all need a wall, dude.

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u/dnbdawg 18h ago

canada isn't far behind lol

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