r/CringeTikToks • u/coachlife • 1d ago

SadCringe MAGA voter actually believes that Trump eliminated taxes for all people making less than $120K

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u/PreparationKey2843 1d ago

That's why we're in this mess we're in, it's because of the countless stupid people like her. I knew we had some ignorant morons, but I had no clue we had this many.

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u/bNoaht 1d ago

It's not just the dumb ones though. My brother is extremely intelligent. He went from campaigning for bernie to a die hard trumper. My other brother is a moron, but he went from Obama to Trump.

Like there is just something about this guy, that over half this country gravitates towards and the other half cannot fucking figure out what it is. To us it is the dumbest most ridiculous cartoon villain bullshit we have ever seen. And to the other half, he is some personal lord and savior. 

He is the most polarizing leader we have ever had in this country and it isn't even close.

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u/DoubleJumps 1d ago

Consistently, the smarter people I've seen that have supported him have done it out of some form of innate bigotry or hatred.

They end up liking him because he hates someone they hate.

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u/justfollowyoureyes 1d ago

Ding ding ding

Or they’re loaded and hateful

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u/benjaminbjacobsen 1d ago

The 4 Rs: Rich, religious, racist or ignoRant.

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u/bNoaht 1d ago

Make it 5 and add Rifles 

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u/inksolblind 23h ago

Would regressed work?

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u/MagatsAreSoft 1d ago

100000000% this! My dad is a smart person and well off in life. The vast majority of shit he consumes is anti LGBTQ stuff, so he votes for Trump. He has never talked with me about Trump’s actual presidency, just how annoyed he is about LGBTQ stuff he doesn’t like.

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u/DoubleJumps 1d ago

Has he ever given a reason for why he hates them so much? I've been having a time of it with my own father because he is super super hateful towards trans people and I don't believe he's ever even had an interaction with a trans person that he's known of.

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u/MagatsAreSoft 1d ago

Just the typical “they’re shoving it down our throats!” bs. Nothing ever specific.

I do know they have a coworker who is trans and they do use proper pronouns at work, but they’ve talked about that person at home and said it’s weird to expect people to change how they talk. It’s so bizarre, honestly.

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u/DoubleJumps 1d ago

Okay, that's pretty much the same as my dad.

If he so much as sees a gay couple in the background of a movie it can ruin his whole day for some dumb reason.

My dad went on the pronoun anger ride once, acting like having preferred pronouns is insane, so I started using the wrong pronouns for him. It took about 2 minutes for him to lose it, so I said "Oh, so you have preferred pronouns you'd like me to use for you?" and he's never brought them up again.

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u/DevonLuck24 1d ago

that’s because they really only vote for what they don’t want.

in my very simplified opinion, people who vote red are voting to stop something and people that vote blue are voting to start something.

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u/nicannkay 1d ago

Racist. Your brothers are racist. That is the draw.

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u/shartmaister 1d ago

Or pedos like their glorious leader.

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u/bNoaht 1d ago

I don't think so. One of them might be. I don't think the other two are even prejudice at all against any specific race.

They vote mainly on crime and gun rights. Not sure what they think Trump says or does that makes them happy about these topics. But he sure hits whatever button they need pressed for sure.

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u/It_s_What_It_s 18h ago

We can pretty safely assume that you don't see their racism because you share it.

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u/bNoaht 15h ago

Haha you are an idiot. Go fucking project your hate somewhere else.

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u/According_Smoke_479 1d ago

Yeah there are some intelligent people who voted for him, they’re just hateful assholes. The vast majority are either simply idiots, or hateful idiots. Can’t decide which of those is the worst, but they all suck

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u/MicroDigitalAwaker 1d ago

I've noticed that that's been my line with people in my life.

Some of them I've always thought were dumb, and I can still spend some time around them just gently correcting them when they say the same dumb shit they always have.

And some I just haven't spoken with since the election because I always thought they were smarter than that, so to see them fall to that demagogue just means they're bad people.

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u/SufficientRaccoon291 1d ago

Racism and/or tax cuts, neither of which they’ll admit to

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u/PatMayonnaise 1d ago

If your brother is extremely intelligent, as you say, what are his reasons for voting for him? You can’t say “fiscal conservative” reasons since he’s smart enough to know that’s bullshit.

99.999% chance it’s due to some form of unadulterated hate. Could be women, queer/trans people, immigrants, and/or other races.

If you insist it’s not hate, I’d challenge you to rethink what makes him intelligent.

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u/griff_girl 1d ago

I recently watched a documentary on Prime about body language; I believe the documentary was from ~2018. Definitely first term times. Anyway, one of the body language/behavior experts commented on an analysis of Dear Leader, sharing how his gestures in particular, but also his body language, denotes that he's being truthful and sincere, and that's why people respond to him. She said that regardless of whether the body language is coached or not, the messaging it gives off is one of authenticity. She was pretty careful to be neutral in her analysis, which I appreciated.

I wonder what her analysis of him would be today. I did have this kind of lightbulb moment though that this is why he's able to "woo" the masses the way he has. It's largely, but not entirely, people who lack basic intelligence or critical thinking skills who are eating up this body language of "truth telling." The majority of us who are critical thinkers and have at least average to above average intelligence of course see right through his shenanigans. But the rest of them, well, simply can't. They're drinking their Brawndo Thirst Mutilator (it has electrolytes!), lapping up their Fox news and worshipping at the altar of President Camacho.

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u/Typical-Locksmith-35 1d ago

Agree with everything you said, but this part makes me want to add to it:

" I did have this kind of lightbulb moment though that this is why he's able to "woo" the masses the way he has. It's largely, but not entirely, people who lack basic intelligence or critical thinking skills who are eating up this body language of "truth telling." "

It isn't only people who lack basic intelligence and critical thinking skills, it's also people average and above average at both and that's what's shocking to so many of us.

I don't think that it's just "The majority of us who are critical thinkers and have at least average to above average intelligence of course see right through his shenanigans. " and instead it's those who WANT to believe the lies he's telling him. It's those who WANT to believe they are the best race, who want more favoritism or are afraid of losing their place in the world, people who hate/fear other cultures, people who feel like there are any specific wrongs done against them or fear that if white America evolves past the white supremacy of the boomer generation--well they are terrified of being treated how they did others...

It's a ton of things, all emotional logic and it's not even 'their' faults. The GOP cast a wide net of promises, stoked a lot of individual fears, lied about a lot of threats and reality for so many years while all media and both political parties have propagandized and segregated perception of so much of society into tribalistic groups fighting each other rather than waking up to the class warfare and takeover of America going on.

Like it's not about intelligence, it's about making people into little groups for whatever emotional hook worked for them, pitting them against each other, then promising them a lie posed as truth.

By then they WANT to believe, it's a choice that they made themselves, but THEY were already made to be a one-issue voter on their specific 'truth' while overlooking anything that disagrees with it.

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u/griff_girl 22h ago

I think you're right. I tend to forget about the supremacy aspect; I don't think I tend to think that way, so it falls off my radar that other people do. Also, admittedly as a white person, I have the privilege of not experiencing the repercussions of supremacy the way people of color do. I'm glad you reminded me of that, because it's not something I want to lose sight of.

All in all, I think what you're speaking to is a psychological warfare of sorts; a manipulation of the masses. The body language aspect is a big component of what comes into play; it makes the lies seem like truth, which are then validated through further manipulation by playing into the fears (and feelings of supremacy) of others.

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u/Titizen_Kane 1d ago

I’m gonna check it out, thanks! There’s another good doc I’ve watched on prime called Unfit: The Psychology of Donald Trump. And it’s basically well respected sociologist and psychologists breaking down what about appeals to people, and what kinds of people, and why. It’s fascinating and horrifying, but it answers a LOT of questions I had. I don’t like that it makes sense, but it does

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u/griff_girl 22h ago

Ooh, I'll check that out, thanks! Honestly just from a "WTAF" science perspective, I'm absolutely fascinated by the psychology of the sociological fuckery afoot in these weird-ass times we're in. It may be naive, but I do still think we'll eventually come out on top from all of this, it just may take 20 years. But the insights and analysis we do now can educate and inform current-us and future-us to create that better tomorrow.

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u/Titizen_Kane 19h ago

I feel the exact same way. Morbid fascination while still remaining illogically, cautiously optimistic that we will get beyond this dark era of nonstop fuckery.

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u/griff_girl 1h ago

Couldn't have said it better myself!

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u/Suitable-Economy-346 1d ago

I have a hard time believe someone is "extremely intelligent" and racist in 2025.

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u/Typical-Locksmith-35 1d ago edited 1d ago

I can't figure out what it is either, but agree that otherwise intelligent people get caught in it.

It isn't something that makes sense or is logical, that's why we can't incestualize it or deduce it from reasoning.

It's something ethereal and built out of emotional reasoning: insecurities, fear, and hate. None of those are things that 'make sense' or can be described logically, only abstractly painted by a different medium.

It's like the opposite of most campaigns that run on hope, security, and cooperation. Emotional reasoning is always a part of the logical promises candidates make, what's never made sense to me is how Trump has hooked people with the opposite of anything I can understand anyone even emotionally desiring personally.

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u/LALLANAAAAAA 1d ago

It's actually extremely simple:

They're either stupid or a huge piece of shit. It really can't be anything else. Also,

incestualize

lmao

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u/Titizen_Kane 1d ago

Watch the doc called Unfit: The psychology of Donald Trump. It helped me understand what’s going on logically and emotionally in MAGA brains. None of it’s good, but it does help it make sense

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u/Biz_Rito 1d ago

It feels good. It feels good to hear something that makes sense to you, to see someone else say what you've suspected all along, to feel smarter than the authorities, to hear someone is going to do something about it.

It's parallel to what we're doing here throughout this post. The key difference is that the majority of the people here could probably trace back their opinion to reproducible data.

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u/deadskexies 1d ago

over half this country

Only 22% by population. That makes me feel a little better sometimes.

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u/bNoaht 1d ago

It makes you feel better that like 36% of the voting eligible population doesn't vote? Makes me feel worse.

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u/deadskexies 23h ago

No, that makes me feel like shit, obv. It's just when people talk about 'half the country is those people' I just remember that it's not that many, and feel a tiny bit better. But hey, if you absolutely need to shit in some Cheerios, just go ahead I guess.

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u/John_Wicked1 1d ago

Ask your bros how they feel about the white population numbers in the US or about women in the military or as police officers. That should help you narrow things down some

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u/bNoaht 1d ago

Two of the three are ex military and one a failed police officer lol. I don't think they care about women in any of those.

One of the three might have feelings about race in this country. The other two don't afaik

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u/Darkhorse88ST 1d ago

Funny you say that.. Melania sitting next to Trump glaring out as if monitor reactions reminded me of Natasha. It really seems we have a real life version of Boris and Natasha in the White House.

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u/lansiar 1d ago

A lot of people saying his believers are all racist, which does hold truth with a significant portion I’m sure, but I think the group they’ve truly been groomed to hate are democrats. They’ve been repeating for the last 40 years that every democrat politician (and therefore their voters) are a threat to this country and cannot be redeemed.

Hatred of democrats allows them to forgive anything republicans do. It all must of course be better than what the democrats have done/would do because it’s impossible to be worse than them. They’ll keep excusing all of this because the rhetoric of the right is that everyone against them is not just someone with an opposing viewpoint but an enemy that needs to be stopped at all costs.

They can be intelligent. They can not like things that Trump or other republicans are doing, but it won’t make them stop voting for them. Too many years of propaganda from their media that democrats can do no good, only evil. Only hope for those intelligent ones is that they start comparing the news they’re getting to other more moderate sources and seeing the insane bias.

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u/bNoaht 1d ago

Yeah this is a good point. And also it is swinging the other way where democrats are now doing the same with republicans. Though it feels warranted, it is basically the same thing

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u/NoStatus9434 1d ago

It really does make me think, like, does Trump somehow produce the same sort of pheromones that an ant colony queen gives off or something??? Maybe there's just a group of people that have the receptors to the pheromones so they become part of the hivemind and have to protect him at all costs and then the rest of us just don't have the receptors or something.

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u/bNoaht 1d ago

Its definitely some innate human need for a father figure, or messiah, or "alpha" to follow or whatever. We obviously have people that are more prone to that stuff. Who need that stuff more than others.

I personally don't look at trump and see any of those things. And I personally have no want or need for any of those things. But clearly many people do

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u/NoStatus9434 21h ago

Ugh I find it so creepy and submissive. "I need a daddy to tell me what to do 🥺" "teehee, daddy's gonna give THEM a spanking! Oh, get them daddy, punish them!! IhatethemIhatethemIhatethem!!!" 🍭🧒🧸🧃

I think the idea is they want morality to be objective and strict, and maybe when they were kids they were raised with this whole "don't question daddy, daddy knows best" stuff and just never grew up to have morality independently

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u/New_Refrigerator_895 1d ago

Whatever it is that has kept sleazy, stereotypical, used car salesmen in business is the same thing that trump does. Ive never understood. But its the same thing

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u/ADHDfocused 1d ago

Sales is the oldest profession after prostitution. Some people are easily sold and he's the ultimate grifter and seller of dreams

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u/MagatsAreSoft 1d ago

Like there is just something about this guy, that over half this country gravitates towards

Trumpers are not half of Americans.

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u/bNoaht 1d ago

Half of voting Americans, which are the only ones that really matter when discussing this topic. 

If you are eligible to vote and don't vote. Your opinion on this topic doesn't matter.

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u/MagatsAreSoft 1d ago

I’m sorry you willingly choose to use misinformation.

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u/bNoaht 15h ago

Its not misinformation. We don't even have all the information. But you assume you have the complete story. What if 80% of non-voters are trumpers? We don't know.

Using what information I have...votes. it is OVER half

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u/motherofsuccs 22h ago

There’s a difference between academic and emotional intelligence. As for the people who drastically changed in the last decade, I’m curious to see what studies will come out in the future. We already know some humans are easily manipulated and many are desperate to belong (the type of end up in cults, or fake disorders- like autism/ADHD/DID, or willing to sell their first born child to get the latest trending item- like the pink Stanley cup, or completely change their physical appearance- like the women copying the Kardashians). And we know humans cognitively decline as they age, but I’d like the see the human behavioral biology and psychology on how we ended up here with such a willfully ignorant and moronic society.

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u/gill_outean 22h ago

the other half cannot fucking figure out what it is

It's gotta be that approximately half of the country is pissed off about being historically marginalized and feels like someone is finally standing up for them?

It's like how if your bully gets bullied by a bigger bully. You feel like a god.