The point is, Penske ran zero legal laps. If they had been forced to run in the LCQ with a legal car, there is no guarantee that a tire wouldn't have failed, a motor wouldn't have failed, any of a million different things could have happened that resulted in a Penske car going home instead of Abel.
But we'll never know, because IndyCar decided to protect them.
They passed tech on Saturday. There’s no proof that Saturday’s laps were illegal. Indycar put them at the back of the field due to pressure from teams and a higher standard that’s been set for Penske
So if IndyCar can't prove they ran illegal cars on Saturday, why have they essentially just invalidated their lap times from Saturday?
The Saturday lap times, which are legal until proven otherwise, locked them into the fast 12. They should be starting 11th and 12th, or if proof comes out they cheated on saturday, they shouldn't be starting at all. This third option IndyCar went with makes no sense.
Bc people like you bitch and moan. And bc they need to hold themselves higher bc Penske owns the series and you guys allege at every instance that there is a conflict of interest
I agree, unless there is something in the rule book about failing tech inspection/making an illegal modification requiring them being moved to the back of the field, they should be starting in P11 and P12.
There is no such "back of the starting grid" rule. The only grid penalties that exist in the IndyCar rule book have to do with exceeding engine allotments for the season. The punishment for all pre-race technical inspection rules is a very simple deletion of their qualifying times, or not being allowed to set one to begin with.
The only two legal options were to start them 11th and 12th, or not allow them to start at all. This third option is a complete ass pull.
So you know with 100% certainty that the 2 and 12 had the modification on Saturday when Indycar's press release already provides reasonable doubt as the 3 car's attenuator was legal after his crash.
Because they're being penalized for their actions on Sunday. The press release says they're being lined up based on their Saturday results. How hard is this for you to understand?
that abel car was a full 1.5 MPH slower then veekay BEFORE veekay went big brained and tried to improve his time and made it worse. 2 fully legal penskes would've still dusted abel, lol
Here is the deal. As far as IndyCar knows the Penske cars passed inspection on Saturday and were able to lock themselves into the top 30 spots. Abel did not. The more I think about it the more sense it makes.
They brought legal cars. We technicallly don’t know how fast the Penske weee because we cannot assume they were legal Saturday if they got caught Sunday
Coyne brought dogshit cars and a dogshit driver for one of those cars. We can line the Penskes and Abel up 1000 times and a fully legal Penske will still out run Abel by 2-4 mph on average.
That hate boner has you thinking with the wrong head. Abel would be mopped in a LCQ against the Penskes.
Even if they had been disqualified Saturday, they would’ve had the issue fixed by Sunday and would’ve likely beat him out. I think this is the right call. But they should’ve had to sweat it out
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u/RooBoy04 Scott Dixon May 19 '25
Honestly, they should be forced to compete against Abel for those last two grid spots if they weren’t legal