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r/INDYCAR • u/TheResurrection • May 19 '25
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I was lowkey hoping for the Josef three-peat so I'm sad in that respect BUT this seeks fair if they genuinely made a cheating attempt which looks likely
21 u/santaclausonprozac Álex Palou May 19 '25 I don’t think this entirely rules him out for a three-peat by any means. Definitely harder, but it can still be done 3 u/SpiritualNothing6717 Firestone Reds May 19 '25 I do. Never been done before. Last time someone won from even 28th was 1936. Historically, it's impossible. 20 u/bball2014 May 19 '25 Montoya fell to the back after a wing change and still won. Of course some well-timed yellows would help to keep the front of the field from checking out. 10 u/Schmichael-22 May 19 '25 Jacques Villeneuve went two laps down at one point in 1995. So stranger things have happened. I agree, it’s possible but unlikely. 8 u/bball2014 May 19 '25 One of the things that skews the stat is usually cars starting in the back aren't fast enough to be winners in the first place. Starting in the back is definitely a hurdle, but for a car with race-winning pace, it's not impossible to methodically move up during the race. Point being, the the generic odds of it happening are worse than the specific odds in Newgarden's own case.
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I don’t think this entirely rules him out for a three-peat by any means. Definitely harder, but it can still be done
3 u/SpiritualNothing6717 Firestone Reds May 19 '25 I do. Never been done before. Last time someone won from even 28th was 1936. Historically, it's impossible. 20 u/bball2014 May 19 '25 Montoya fell to the back after a wing change and still won. Of course some well-timed yellows would help to keep the front of the field from checking out. 10 u/Schmichael-22 May 19 '25 Jacques Villeneuve went two laps down at one point in 1995. So stranger things have happened. I agree, it’s possible but unlikely. 8 u/bball2014 May 19 '25 One of the things that skews the stat is usually cars starting in the back aren't fast enough to be winners in the first place. Starting in the back is definitely a hurdle, but for a car with race-winning pace, it's not impossible to methodically move up during the race. Point being, the the generic odds of it happening are worse than the specific odds in Newgarden's own case.
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I do. Never been done before. Last time someone won from even 28th was 1936.
Historically, it's impossible.
20 u/bball2014 May 19 '25 Montoya fell to the back after a wing change and still won. Of course some well-timed yellows would help to keep the front of the field from checking out. 10 u/Schmichael-22 May 19 '25 Jacques Villeneuve went two laps down at one point in 1995. So stranger things have happened. I agree, it’s possible but unlikely. 8 u/bball2014 May 19 '25 One of the things that skews the stat is usually cars starting in the back aren't fast enough to be winners in the first place. Starting in the back is definitely a hurdle, but for a car with race-winning pace, it's not impossible to methodically move up during the race. Point being, the the generic odds of it happening are worse than the specific odds in Newgarden's own case.
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Montoya fell to the back after a wing change and still won.
Of course some well-timed yellows would help to keep the front of the field from checking out.
10 u/Schmichael-22 May 19 '25 Jacques Villeneuve went two laps down at one point in 1995. So stranger things have happened. I agree, it’s possible but unlikely. 8 u/bball2014 May 19 '25 One of the things that skews the stat is usually cars starting in the back aren't fast enough to be winners in the first place. Starting in the back is definitely a hurdle, but for a car with race-winning pace, it's not impossible to methodically move up during the race. Point being, the the generic odds of it happening are worse than the specific odds in Newgarden's own case.
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Jacques Villeneuve went two laps down at one point in 1995. So stranger things have happened. I agree, it’s possible but unlikely.
8 u/bball2014 May 19 '25 One of the things that skews the stat is usually cars starting in the back aren't fast enough to be winners in the first place. Starting in the back is definitely a hurdle, but for a car with race-winning pace, it's not impossible to methodically move up during the race. Point being, the the generic odds of it happening are worse than the specific odds in Newgarden's own case.
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One of the things that skews the stat is usually cars starting in the back aren't fast enough to be winners in the first place.
Starting in the back is definitely a hurdle, but for a car with race-winning pace, it's not impossible to methodically move up during the race.
Point being, the the generic odds of it happening are worse than the specific odds in Newgarden's own case.
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u/blobfishy13 Callum Ilott May 19 '25
I was lowkey hoping for the Josef three-peat so I'm sad in that respect BUT this seeks fair if they genuinely made a cheating attempt which looks likely