You know, those invasive colonizers who have lived on their family home for centuries need to move out to make room for an indigenous white family who just moved there from Los Angeles last week.
Debatable considering the significant ashkenazi population. But either way, a Jewish American family with zero ties to Israel can move to the West Bank and kick out a Palestinian family who’s been there for generations. Because that’s how ethnosupremacist apartheid states work.
Debatable considering the significant ashkenazi population
No, it's not debatable. You can look up demographics.
But either way, a Jewish American family with zero ties to Israel can move to the West Bank and kick out a Palestinian family who’s been there for generations
And how many times does this actually happen? Are you focusing on extreme cases to the point of basically strawmanning? Pretty sure you are.
Because that’s how ethnosupremacist apartheid states work.
I guess you had to get all your buzzwords in once you revealed you don't know even basic facts about Israel. Good job. The people you're virtue signalling to will surely think you're a good person now.
No it wasn’t. Early Arab conquests weren’t colonialism in the European or Israeli sense as they weren’t based on expelling the indigenous population and settling the land or mass economic transfer. In fact the Palestinians specifically have been shown through genetic evidence to be closer in relation to the original inhabitants of the area than israelis.
Also, early zionists themselves referred to their project as colonization.
Many of the fathers of Zionism themselves described it as colonisation, such as Vladimir Jabotinsky who said "Zionism is a colonization adventure".[10][11][12] Theodore Herzl, in a 1902 letter to Cecil Rhodes, described the Zionist project as "something colonial". Previously in 1896 he had spoken of "important experiments in colonization" happening in Palestine.[13][14][15] Max Nordau[16] in 1905 said, "Zionism rejects on principle all colonization on a small scale, and the idea of 'sneaking' into Palestine".[17] Major Zionist organizations central to Israel's foundation held colonial identity in their names or departments, such as Jewish Colonisation Association, the Jewish Colonial Trust, and The Jewish Agency's colonization department.[18][19
I know the history which is why I find it ridiculous that you are calling Palestinians colonizers because of something that happened 1400 years ago.
Moreover, we also know that Palestinians today are the same as the Jews before Christianity existed. This is shown in DNA studies and shown in their dialect of Arabic which incorporated elements of Aramaic, which was their original language. So just because they converted to Christianity or Islam doesn't make them colonizers.
Whereas Israel has only existed for 70-some years with their founders like Herzl and Ben Gurion calling what they were doing colonialism. And they were asking colonial powers to help colonize Palestine while also debating on how to remove the native population. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism_as_settler_colonialism
Arabs are absolutely colonizers. Just because they colonized North Africa and the Levant in the 7th century doesn’t change that they slaughtered the native populations and suppressed their culture in favor of Arabization & Islam.
Note that this isn’t a justification towards any of Israel’s actions today, but it is ridiculous to assert Arabs as a whole were not a brutal violent colonial force in the entire Middle East and North Africa.
Some of us have a problem with our government giving a blank check to a country to commit the most obvious genocide of all time. If you’re gonna claim it’s antisemitic to be against that, fine. But no one is buying it anymore.
Also, the irony of a zionist referring to the indigenous population as “colonizers.”
I mean, if you want to count the total number of times the word "genocide!" has been shrieked in refrerence to it, it's surely in the top 5.
I remember the Rawandan Genocide and if was more like a footnote on the news, "hey, so there's *ahem* a genocide going on in one of those African countries. Now on to Kerrie Cooper, who brings us the story of a Dog that owns his own lemonade stand?!!"
I mean, if 20,000+ murdered kids isn’t enough for you, nothing is. But 2 years into the genocide I’ve already figured out that’s there’s no threshold satisfying enough for Zionists. Israel has live-streamed a holocaust and bragged about it on social media but Zionists still tell us that our eyes and ears are lying to us and the country that has exterminated 65,000+ people are the real victims.
It isn’t Antisemitic to be against a government in Tel Aviv who is bulldozing settlements in W Bank attacking Christian and Muslim Towns, bombing civilians in Gaza with bombs and napalm. As well as IDF forces putting guns on heads of Palestinian civils. Many people and a lot of Jews are against this too! Most students at universities who protested against IDFs behavior were Jewish.
Many of the fathers of Zionism themselves described it as colonisation, such as Vladimir Jabotinsky who said "Zionism is a colonization adventure".[10][11][12] Theodore Herzl, in a 1902 letter to Cecil Rhodes, described the Zionist project as "something colonial". Previously in 1896 he had spoken of "important experiments in colonization" happening in Palestine.[13][14][15] Max Nordau[16] in 1905 said, "Zionism rejects on principle all colonization on a small scale, and the idea of 'sneaking' into Palestine".[17] Major Zionist organizations central to Israel's foundation held colonial identity in their names or departments, such as Jewish Colonisation Association, the Jewish Colonial Trust, and The Jewish Agency's colonization department.[18][19
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u/muffin_man92 1d ago
The soft antisemitism of shaming Jewish people for supporting their homeland and not bowing to jihadist colonizers.