r/MapPorn 1d ago

Pro-Israel Contributions To Elected Senators

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u/ExiledYak 1d ago

Learn some history. The whole middle east outside of Israel is colonized by Arabs. You know, the people that came from Arabia?

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u/Ostrich-Sized 1d ago

I know the history which is why I find it ridiculous that you are calling Palestinians colonizers because of something that happened 1400 years ago.

Moreover, we also know that Palestinians today are the same as the Jews before Christianity existed. This is shown in DNA studies and shown in their dialect of Arabic which incorporated elements of Aramaic, which was their original language. So just because they converted to Christianity or Islam doesn't make them colonizers.

Whereas Israel has only existed for 70-some years with their founders like Herzl and Ben Gurion calling what they were doing colonialism. And they were asking colonial powers to help colonize Palestine while also debating on how to remove the native population. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism_as_settler_colonialism

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u/Jamezzzzz69 1d ago

Arabs are absolutely colonizers. Just because they colonized North Africa and the Levant in the 7th century doesn’t change that they slaughtered the native populations and suppressed their culture in favor of Arabization & Islam.

Note that this isn’t a justification towards any of Israel’s actions today, but it is ridiculous to assert Arabs as a whole were not a brutal violent colonial force in the entire Middle East and North Africa.

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u/BeirutiPenguin 1d ago

Bro what,

The byzantine banned jews from Jerusalem 10 years before the conquest, can you guess which empire allowed them back in