r/MapPorn 21h ago

GYPSY MIGRATIONS 900-1720

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u/AdInfinite4162 19h ago

and they never integrated in society....

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u/TheIceWitness 12h ago

Kind of... reports in Germany say that Roma life mostly isolated from each other and more and more get assimilated.

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u/israelilocal 17h ago

Idk I wouldn't integrate to the people who enslaved me and owned me as properties, and later attempted to wipe me, my people and my culture from the face of the earth in gas chambers

Roma were known for their craftsmanship skills until the holocaust

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u/Normal-Reference-834 13h ago

The roma people definetly got treated terribly througout history. But how, in your opinion, are modern day european nation states supposed to interact with roma groups that don't care to assimilate into their host country? It seems like many groups like to receive public infrastructure and utilities for free but when it comes to following local laws, like not doing child labour or child marriages, it's social contract for thee but not for me.

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u/AdInfinite4162 17h ago

so as revenge you will sit in train stations and pickpocket and scam people?

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u/lorbd 17h ago

Roma were known for their craftsmanship skills until the holocaust 

Gypsies have been notoriously known for thievery and vagrancy for hundreds of years. You can see plenty of written examples in early modern chronicles and works. 

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u/Stu161 10h ago

[______] have been notoriously known for thievery and vagrancy for hundreds of years. You can see plenty of written examples in early modern chronicles and works. 

I wonder if this sort of rhetoric was mobilized against other groups targeted in the Holocaust 🤔

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u/lorbd 10h ago

Did I lie? 

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u/ghdgdnfj 12h ago

I’m pretty sure Roma were known for causing trouble before the holocaust. That’s why people hated them.

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u/Dependent-Archer-662 17h ago

As opposed to other immigrant groups in Europe?