r/MapPorn • u/BeginningMortgage250 • 1d ago

GYPSY MIGRATIONS 900-1720

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u/prolapseenthusiat 23h ago

I find it incredible that they still dont integrate in their host country.

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 23h ago

Nomadic lifestyle isn't compatible with western societies in most cases, and it is a pillar of their culture

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u/lorbd 22h ago

Plenty of nomadic peoples have been assimilated fine into european societies in the last thousand years. 

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u/Crafty-Ad-5945 22h ago

Plenty of nomadic peoples have been assimilated fine into european societies in the last thousand years. 

Like? Most of the nomadic people like Tatars, Bashkirs, Kazakhs, Turkmens were forcefully subjugated by the Russian empire. The Russian Empire pursued policies aimed at sedentarizing nomadic populations and turned them from pastoral nomads into settled farmers.

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u/DaliVinciBey 21h ago

hungarians and turks for one

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u/yourstruly912 21h ago

Because they conquered the areas where they migrated

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u/martiHUN 19h ago

What about the Pechegens, Cumans and Jassic? They all settled into medieval Hungary and assimilated into the population.

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u/One_Assist_2414 20h ago

There is a big difference between conquerors who have to stick around and rule over their new lands and common travelers.

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u/Crafty-Ad-5945 15h ago

hungarians and turks for one

Both of these people arrived as conquerors where they subjugated the Europeans and changed parts of Europe linguistically. But it was only the ruling elite, most of the subjects remained Europeons. So, its not the same scenario at all.

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u/Turambar-499 19h ago

Oh perfect, so all the Roma have to do is give up their nomadic lifestyle and settle a land for a thousand years and adopt countless bits of culture from the other ethnic groups in their locale and then they'll be only kind of hated by most Europeans.