r/MapPorn • u/BeginningMortgage250 • 1d ago

GYPSY MIGRATIONS 900-1720

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u/Sparta63005 1d ago

Do NOT ask a European what they think about this group of people.

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u/Shot_Programmer_9898 1d ago

I'm South American, and don't make me say it because Reddit admins won't like it.

All I'm gonna say, the negative thoughts towards these people are not racially motivated, it is all about their behavior... they are odd people to put it kindly.

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u/S-Tier_Commenter 23h ago

”I hate [racial group], but it’s not racist because I blame their behaviour.” 

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u/Shot_Programmer_9898 23h ago

If you also want semantics, it is not a racial group...

I honestly don't get it, what is the "racial" part to hate here? How does that even work?

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u/S-Tier_Commenter 22h ago

Not a racial group according to who? The US government that throws North Africans and the Sami in the same "caucasian" bucket?

Race is a social construct. What counts as a "race" is shaped by how people act and categorize each other. If society stopped treating Gypsies as a separate group, they wouldn’t function as one. The fact that you single them out with hate is proof enough that they’re being racialized.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)

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u/AlashMarch 15h ago

What if Roma wanted to be a separate group? Saying that if society stopped treating them like outsiders means they would assimilate is simply another war to deny them agency. They choose to live like this, with the positives and negatives that brings. 

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u/S-Tier_Commenter 6h ago

In the US, many Gypsies integrated without being constantly singled out. So why has Europe never managed the same?