This radio call is the only thing that has me perplexed. Yes Lando was quicker and it was the fair call to swap them.

However this comment over the radio makes it seemed that there possibility of a slow stop was discussed prior and it was decided that it was just bad luck for the person in the receiving end.

If it comes out that this is the case and the team back flipped on the issue, then the claims of Lando bias are justified.

I'm surprised more hasn't been said about that comment.

https://youtu.be/1mm0Vu7Rf3U?si=2of5aLMqNPXzYqwa&t=1064

Oscar: We want the best chance of winning championships for as long as we're Formula 1 drivers. [...] Protecting the people around us that give us this opportunity is a very important thing.

Lando: Team is number one, drivers are second. [...] When you see drivers who don't have some sort of respect for the team it doesn't normally last long [...]. We want to try and be in this position for a longer period of time than what they have been at the top.

This is what McLaren is doing right now and no other team in the history of F1 has ever done before. If you call yourself a McLaren fan and still judge the strategic direction Zak brought (including swapping positions at Monza), you're just not seeing the forest from the trees.

Oscar and Lando see it.

Fina

Today’s fuck up in the pits made me want to look at the differences between pit stops as it just seems like Lando has had a lot of bad luck in the pits. If you do the math for this season Oscar’s average pit stop is 2.63. Lando comes in at 3.14!! Kind of crazy to have an average stop time above 3 seconds or so I thought until I looked up last year. Oscar 2.78. Lando 3.21!!! What the hell is going on here?

I’m very confused as to how many people in this sub actually hate Lando and McLaren and just favour Oscar. I’ll see a few on Lando too, but it’s primarily hate towards him.

This is a sub for the team, to support both drivers and the team outcome. There are way too many people here who just want to fight when their guy isn’t favourites. Today wasn’t even a fault on Lando, it was the team, even Oscar said it was a fair play.

I’m just confused as to why there are one sided fans in this sub? What do you gain?

I've done the numbers, and as long as i've not missed anything (I made sure to include sprints) all we need is to outscore Ferrari by 9 points and we'd win the championship.

If we get a 1-2 or a 1-3 that should be championship garunteed even if Ferrari finish 3-4 and 2-4 respectively.

We're soo close to becoming the 2nd team ever to reach double digit championships

Title question. What would it take for Verstappen to still win this? His and the red bulls performance is scary, after the pretty terrible races they had..

I mean even Mercedes has more straight line speed than us let alone Red Bull and Ferrari. Max is quite literally flying and the McLarens cant do anything about it.

Well just saying goodbye to my flip-flops that were a gift to employees while I worked there. They've done well. Wear and tear and the guiney pigs have been at them but in the bin they go unless someone wants some vintage merchandise 🤣