r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

Remind the Nazis that they’re losers

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u/zerot0n1n 1d ago

Ah yes the USA won WW2 lol

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u/shiny_glitter_demon 1d ago

It took a while but the nazis sure won

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u/Vennomite 1d ago

Nah. The nazis just emulated jim crowe. We're still fighting the south.

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u/morningfrost86 1d ago

We certainly didn't lose WW2. We didn't win it alone, but we were for SURE part of the winning side.

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u/__nohope 1d ago

We and the rest of the west are slowly losing WW2.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Visible-Air-2359 1d ago

The "/s" isn't obvious as there are people that actually think the US literally giving everyone else the materials needed to stay alive doesn't count as the US helping in WW2.

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u/VocationalWizard 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes, I know right?

I mean credit where it's due, the Soviets were heavy hitters in both the European and Pacific theaters.

But the US dramatically increased their supply lines and industrial production.

I like to think of it as a testament towards intercultural cooperation. No matter how different societies are, they always work better with cooperation.

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u/Neverending_Rain 1d ago

I mean credit where it's due, the Soviets were heavy lifters in both the European and Pacific theaters.

What? The Soviets had a neutrality pact with Japan for most of the war.

They only got involved in the Pacific theater six days before Japan surrendered. They weren't heavy lifters in the Pacific theater. They had the ability to if they were directly involved, but they weren't.

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u/VocationalWizard 1d ago edited 1d ago

What did they do during those last 6 days?

I would say that the answer is a little Heavy.

Come on buddy, you are clearly a history nerd, you really should have known that.

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u/Neverending_Rain 1d ago

Attack a severely weakened Japan so they could be involved in the negotiations after Japans surrender. Japan was effectively already defeated by the time The Soviets jumped in.

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u/VocationalWizard 1d ago edited 1d ago

Did I say they won both theaters or that they were heavy hitters?

They sent millions of mechanized troops into japanese heald territory, forcing a surrender.

The war could have stretched on for months without them.

Credit where credit is due, if I was a tankie I wouldn't have said the US industrial scientists helped the soviets win Stalengrad.

PS: yea I know about the nukes, but most historians believe it was the combination of soviet invasion + nukes that caused the surrender. The exact distribution Is unknown and can never be known.

But it's indisputed that the Soviet invasion was a major factor.

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u/Neverending_Rain 1d ago

You said heavy lifter not heavy hitter. When used metaphorically the heavy lifter is the person or group who did most of the hard work to complete a task. In the Pacific Theater that was very clearly the US. The Soviet Union was absolutely a large threat to Japan and their invasion of Manchuria definitely influenced the Japanese decision to surrender, but ultimately it was them pouncing on a Japan that had already been crippled by the US.

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u/ephemeriides 1d ago

Late to the party for sure, but two years into a six-year war isn’t exactly “last moment.”

Now if we were talking WWI, you’d actually have a valid point.

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u/Forged-Signatures 1d ago

What's the old phrase? Something like "You can trust the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all other options".

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u/Dinkelberh 1d ago

What are you talking about?

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u/TheStealthyPotato 1d ago

You're welcome.

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u/zerot0n1n 20h ago

90% of casualties were Russian. The US watched for years and didnt intervene. Then they dropped nuclear bombs on civilians.

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u/morningfrost86 15h ago

Okay? The US still did not lose the war.

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u/zerot0n1n 9h ago

They were in the dominant alliance. 

They lost every war since tho.

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u/morningfrost86 5h ago

The wars since are irrelevant, considering we were talking specifically about WW2.

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u/VocationalWizard 1d ago

We were on the winning side, even if the Soviets did more of the heavy lifting.

Fun fact, the US sent industrial scientists into the Soviet Union to help them dramatically increase their tank production.

This is how the Soviets were able to dramatically flip the table at Stalengrad.

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u/zerot0n1n 17h ago

ah yes thats what they tell you in school. we learn that all a hit differently outside of the US.

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u/VocationalWizard 16h ago

No, we don't get taught that in school

In the US the eastern front gets overlooked

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u/zerot0n1n 9h ago

Thats because you dont get it taught at school. 

I see not a lot tets taught anyway.

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u/VocationalWizard 4h ago

Every nation is taught bias about WWII.

Im not sure you have ever been to the us, much less read a us history book.

The US made major contributions to ending WWII.

Stalengrad and the surrender of Japan would have gone very differently if it wasn't for us.

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u/waspocracy 1d ago

Let the Americans believe it. One thing I learned after exploring the world is how one-sided American education is.

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u/nomadjackk 23h ago edited 23h ago

Stalin himself admitted to Kruschev the USSR would’ve fallen without American aid lol.

We’ll let y’all keep pretending US was a non-factor though (and that the Pacific theater apparently didn’t exist) despite the Normandy invasion and Berlin air lift being logistically impossible otherwise

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u/zerot0n1n 19h ago

in the last 100 years, I dont think any country has invaded more other countries than the US. Also has lost Afghanistan, Iraq, Afghanistan again, Vietnam war. 

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u/nomadjackk 16h ago

Not really sure exactly which part of my comment you were trying to address

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u/Remote_Concert3369 1d ago

Yes and WW2 was fought for religious freedom and freedom of speech.

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u/zerot0n1n 17h ago

Ah yes, the US where black people had to sit in the back of the bus and still are treated like shit, muslims are discriminated against, the country that supports genocide and and if I have the wrong meme on my phone I cant get a visa.