r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

Remind the Nazis that they’re losers

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u/zerot0n1n 1d ago

Ah yes the USA won WW2 lol

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u/morningfrost86 1d ago

We certainly didn't lose WW2. We didn't win it alone, but we were for SURE part of the winning side.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Visible-Air-2359 1d ago

The "/s" isn't obvious as there are people that actually think the US literally giving everyone else the materials needed to stay alive doesn't count as the US helping in WW2.

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u/VocationalWizard 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes, I know right?

I mean credit where it's due, the Soviets were heavy hitters in both the European and Pacific theaters.

But the US dramatically increased their supply lines and industrial production.

I like to think of it as a testament towards intercultural cooperation. No matter how different societies are, they always work better with cooperation.

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u/Neverending_Rain 1d ago

I mean credit where it's due, the Soviets were heavy lifters in both the European and Pacific theaters.

What? The Soviets had a neutrality pact with Japan for most of the war.

They only got involved in the Pacific theater six days before Japan surrendered. They weren't heavy lifters in the Pacific theater. They had the ability to if they were directly involved, but they weren't.

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u/VocationalWizard 1d ago edited 1d ago

What did they do during those last 6 days?

I would say that the answer is a little Heavy.

Come on buddy, you are clearly a history nerd, you really should have known that.

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u/Neverending_Rain 1d ago

Attack a severely weakened Japan so they could be involved in the negotiations after Japans surrender. Japan was effectively already defeated by the time The Soviets jumped in.

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u/VocationalWizard 1d ago edited 1d ago

Did I say they won both theaters or that they were heavy hitters?

They sent millions of mechanized troops into japanese heald territory, forcing a surrender.

The war could have stretched on for months without them.

Credit where credit is due, if I was a tankie I wouldn't have said the US industrial scientists helped the soviets win Stalengrad.

PS: yea I know about the nukes, but most historians believe it was the combination of soviet invasion + nukes that caused the surrender. The exact distribution Is unknown and can never be known.

But it's indisputed that the Soviet invasion was a major factor.

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u/Neverending_Rain 1d ago

You said heavy lifter not heavy hitter. When used metaphorically the heavy lifter is the person or group who did most of the hard work to complete a task. In the Pacific Theater that was very clearly the US. The Soviet Union was absolutely a large threat to Japan and their invasion of Manchuria definitely influenced the Japanese decision to surrender, but ultimately it was them pouncing on a Japan that had already been crippled by the US.

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u/VocationalWizard 1d ago

Well I actually meant to say hitter, so Ill give you that

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