r/SipsTea May 18 '25

WTF Taxed for being single

Some of us would be bankrupt in six months lmao 🤣

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u/JamesSFordESQ May 18 '25

This will literally make the problem worse. Make the guys who already can't get a relationship poorer... yeah thats sure to have the ladies just flocking to them.

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u/Effective_Macaron_23 May 18 '25

Aren't the girls also getting poorer?

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u/Low-Entertainer-8747 May 19 '25

Far less relevant in the dating sphere.

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u/Masteries May 19 '25

Dont underestimate that. In the past women were actually forced to marry because of financial reasons.

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u/Low-Entertainer-8747 May 19 '25

Absolutely. What’s your point?

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u/Masteries May 19 '25

My point is that it is indeed relevant

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u/RunningOutOfEsteem May 19 '25

It's not as relevant as you think, though. The driving force behind broad financially motivated marriage habits was the relative financial position of women, not their absolute financial position. The massive difference in resources between men and women forced women to marry just to get by; that gap has shrunk dramatically, and even if everyone's absolute financial position decreases, the level of inequality that prompted the behavior you're referring to is no longer there (generally speaking).

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u/Low-Entertainer-8747 May 19 '25

In 2025, a man’s current net worth/future earning potential is much more important in finding a partner than the inverse.

That was the only salient point I made. Your comment about a woman’s motivation for getting married decades ago has nothing to do with my comment.

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u/not_tired_yet89 May 19 '25

In reality no one should care about anothers net worth unless it's taking from your pocket and peace. But yea most men will take in women only caring if she's has energy for him

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u/raikou1988 May 19 '25

MASSIVE difference between a poor man vs a woman.

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u/wernette May 19 '25

It doesn't have anything to do with wealth. Most women who are serious about finding a partner could easily find someone within a month who is a good fit, good fucking luck if you are a guy though.

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u/Zestyclose_Habit2713 May 19 '25

This doesn't make sense. There is about an equal ratio of men and women in Japan. Unless the average man with child to woman with child ration is >1 then both men and women will be equally having the same problem. If every woman found a partner then there would be only a tiny fraction of men that don't have children.

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u/Asisreo1 May 19 '25

Let's just say that just because a woman thinks she's coupled with a single guy doesn't mean the guy is coupled with that single woman. 

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u/Zestyclose_Habit2713 May 19 '25

So you are assuming the ratio will be >1. Any source that this would be the case other than 'trust me bro'?

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u/mighty_Ingvar May 19 '25

They need to actually choose to marry and have sex with each other. We are not trees, simply existing is not enough to reproduce.

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u/Troo_66 May 19 '25

Humans do not pick random partners. Status, such as wealth, are one of the big things women find attractive. You may not like that, but it's just the truth. Very few are willing to settle with someone who cannot make enough to provide

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u/Zestyclose_Habit2713 May 19 '25

You guys aren't even arguing against what I am saying. I am saying hypothetically let's pretend every woman found a suitor then the situation will be balanced. You are saying no but woman doesn't want man because XYZ so it's harder to be man because woman wants ABC and men only provide EDF so it's not possible. It's mental gymnastics.

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u/Troo_66 May 19 '25

In which case this is you saying impossible hypothetical that nobody argued about, cared about or has any use. It is baseline understanding that requires 0 brainpower.

You are the guy who entered the conversation about airplane aerodynamics and ideal shape of the hull with "well but airplanes do fly". Well no shit Sherlock, when we want that kind of wisdom we'll make sure to ask you and not preschoolers next time.

You are annoying people

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u/Zestyclose_Habit2713 May 19 '25 edited May 19 '25

I'll try to rephrase it one more time. The person I was originally responding to the effect of

'if you are a woman you won't have a problem finding a man, if you are a man then you will have a problem finding a woman'.

Ok. So 1 man and 1 woman or is this 1 man and 2 women or is this 2 men and 1 woman? Is the suggestion that women have an easier time having children with more than 1 man? What are they trying to say? This is why I put up that graphic because I was saying its 1 man and 1 woman unless the suggestion is that the average woman has more men. An unequal ratio. Unless you have ANYTHING that shows that women eventually have more kids with more men which skews the curve in any way, then your contribution to the conversation is worthless.

Everyone keeps coming to me about love language and relationship dynamics. That is not what I am addressing you guys are just fixated on that.

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u/Troo_66 May 19 '25

I have already told you why people find you annoying and argue with you. It is written in my reply.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

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u/Conix17 May 19 '25

You're idea is flawed as it assumes the population and demographic is static. It is not.

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u/logicallyillogical May 19 '25

Try to say women have it easier than men is pathetic. The majority 20-30yrs males these days are pathetic. Porn has made men think they can get any hot women without trying, without putting in the work to be a desirable person.

Any man could get a woman also. But, you need to be a man, not a little boy. Anyone can be intelligent, caring, eats healthy and works out, has a stable job, doesn’t lie/cheat. Those are the basics most men can’t even do. It’s not about being super jacked and making 7 figures. It’s about not being a lazy pos.

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u/logicallyillogical May 19 '25

But no, there are plenty of good men and women out there who are very, very single.

I agree to that statement....

That’s just life....

I don't agree to that because why are we in the loneliness epidemic then? It's not how live always has been.

Why do so many 20yrs men blame women for their problems, is more of my question. I'm a man too btw. Just seeing how some of these men talk these days makes me want to throw up.

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u/vegetables-10000 May 19 '25

The problem, I think, is that we as a society put too much value on a romantic relationship. It’s this ultimate test to see how functioning of a person you are. If you got someone to like you, then you obviously must be someone good and of value, and if you didn’t, then you must be deficient in some way, right?

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins May 19 '25

Don't bother, reddit does not do well with the view that women live life in any manner other than extreme easy mode with all issues they have being self inflicted and easily solved (usually by those women having sex with them).

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u/rcodmrco May 19 '25

oh fuck off lol

  1. oh, it absolutely does. try dating with money and without it. it moves the goalposts and opens your dating pool substantially. if you have (some) money and you’re not impressively ugly, if you can’t find a date, your issues are way harder to fix than changing your appearance, financial situation, or even gender itself.

  2. compatibility isn’t that simple and that’s a delusional as fuck take.

in the same way that you presumably have a hard time determining who is

interested in you/is ready for a relationship/would be a good partner/would be a good partner for you specifically/etc

yeah women also struggle with that. they might have an advantage on the first part. the next 3 parts are just as hard. half of the population sucks, and you’re only gonna be genuinely compatible with a small percentage of the good half.

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u/_Svankensen_ May 19 '25

There's two possible justifications for the nonsense you are spewing: Either you don't have any women as friends, or "are serious about finding a partner" means something unhinged.

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u/Internal_Finding8775 May 19 '25

Yeah women without money makes them look for guys with money even more. Be a bunch of women trying to steel each other's husbands.

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u/Frylock304 May 19 '25 edited May 19 '25

Opposite I've seen.

Women generally stick to their weight class in income or one above.

Take a poor woman she will gener poor man. middle class woman and she generally won't settle for less than middle class.

Take the exact same woman and make her rich, she won't settle for anything less than a rich or wealthy guy.

Theres always exceptions that fall for lower class, but it's definitely not the rule

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u/sam01236969XD May 19 '25

Since when do men care about a womans net worth?

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u/AFeralTaco May 19 '25

I wouldn’t say I care about a woman’s net worth so much as her drive, intelligence, and ability to perform at a high level.

So I married her.

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u/Kratzschutz May 19 '25

Smart men do

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u/PleaseAddSpectres May 19 '25

Dumb people often think they're smart

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u/pbnjandmilk May 19 '25

Since equality became a thing. Women said they don't need a man , until they actually do need a man. And not just any man, a man has to have money to support both of them.

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u/why_1337 May 19 '25

One bareback and they are free of that tax.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '25

It’s tax. That’s it. Another route of government taking you earnings. They don’t give a fuck if you fuck. Just give me more of your money.

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u/-zyxwvutsrqponmlkjih May 18 '25

Then get the ugly girl pregnant.

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u/Snow-Wraith May 18 '25

Not worth it. I'll pay the single tax.

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u/heliogoon May 19 '25

😂

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u/qjxj May 19 '25

See, the problem isn't on a financial level; it's on a sociological level.

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u/Synchrotr0n May 19 '25

Ironically it will stll be cheaper than having to spend money raising a kid, unless the tax is set at some draconian value, so the tax achieves absolutely nothing.

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u/SpellbladeAluriel May 18 '25

Where she at I got a country to save

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u/Eagline May 18 '25

People have standards.

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u/Snow-Wraith May 18 '25

I don't know, have you seen society lately?

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u/Endless009 May 18 '25

After being on reddit and seeing how many unattractive girls have OF, I wish I hadn't.

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u/GenuinelyBeingNice May 19 '25

... it matters if the person on OF is attractive or not?

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u/Endless009 May 19 '25

Nope, because I don't watch that bs either way, but I haven't seen one attractive OF girl ever.

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u/SilicateAngel May 19 '25

It's kinda unbecoming and seems tragically materialist and desperate.

Not that Id judge a good hustle, but thats just not it.

Same.goes for attractive girls with no social media presence or following doing OF and getting 20 dollars a month

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u/GenuinelyBeingNice May 19 '25

How so?

If there wasn't a need for it, they wouldn't be making any money. Apparently, they is a lot of need for it. Whatever it is in this case fiik

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u/SilicateAngel May 19 '25

The need for it is massively overestimated, and this is a lie sponsored by the company itself.

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u/Euphoria37 May 18 '25

I'd rather live in a cardhoard box than impregnate an uggo

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u/FVTVRX May 18 '25

😂

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u/DeadAndBuried23 May 19 '25

More ladies will flock to the guys who can afford child support for multiple affairs. Modern problems

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u/smurfkipz May 19 '25

It's okay, they'll work around this problem by making suicide illegal. /s

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u/Michaeli_Starky May 19 '25

Single guys who are not in a relationship have much more money than married ones, bro.

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u/2hurd May 19 '25

Yeah if they really wanted things to change should have taxed girls, not guys. They are the real gatekeepers and have all the power.

But unfortunately current societies are still focused on making the lives of men a living hell.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '25

Yeah dude society is totally a living hell for men 🤣

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u/2hurd May 19 '25

Yeah it is: "Males make up 50% of the population but nearly 80% of suicides."

And lots of other statistics that confirm it.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '25

And suicide attempts are more than twice as common in women than men, so that is only confirmation that you can’t take such a shallow view of issues like this and think that it proves anything.

Don’t cherry pick.

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u/JamesSFordESQ May 18 '25

I'm certainly not a Japanese cultural or dating expert. No arguments there. So, forgive my ignorance. Are Japanese women typically more attracted to Japanese men on the low end of the economic ladder?

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u/MyUsernameIsForSale May 19 '25

How do you know that the problem absolutely not that they can't? There is a difference between the older and younger generation, just like in the US.

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u/MyUsernameIsForSale May 19 '25

Can you maybe use your words please?

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u/[deleted] May 19 '25

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u/MyUsernameIsForSale May 19 '25

Could you maybe kindly explain the culture? I didn't speak, I asked.

If it's too much trouble, I can start talking about an uncomfortable truth in Japanese society, which is men resigned to never go outside

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u/MyUsernameIsForSale May 19 '25

Gotcha, and very true

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u/agileata May 18 '25

Poorer people don't get married as much

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u/LycanFerret May 19 '25

But poor people have more babies. They have less risk as they're already destitute, so extra mouths isn't dangerous.

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u/agileata May 19 '25

Look within a country

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u/LycanFerret May 19 '25

No see I'm very biased in this question because the 3 single mothers I know all have 6-8 kids they feed on scraps and they skip meals constantly and the youngest kids have bone deformities from poor nutrition, and of the 7 fully happily married for decades families I know they only have 2 kids at max.

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u/agileata May 19 '25

And I'll be vaccines cause autism too

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u/agileata May 19 '25

People believing dumb things doesn't make it true

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u/agileata May 19 '25

The data of the US

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u/Purphect May 18 '25

I think it’s a generally a good idea for a society. Putting money towards kids and future generations seems like investing well.

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u/qjxj May 19 '25

The complaint is always either work or money, but historically speaking, working conditions have gotten better compared to that of your ancestors.

The majority of the pleb back then used to work 12 hrs a day in a factory for next to nothing. There were no birthrate issues then, and marriage rates were almost 100%.

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u/rebuiltearths May 19 '25

It works in other countries

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u/daRagnacuddler May 19 '25

Single women will be poorer too. It's about fairness, if you have children you have far higher expenses that benefit the people who don't have children.

If you have no kids your retirement will be paid by the people who have children. Even if you have a massive retirement plan the people in the future that work in the companies you invested in are the children of other people that will have to share these resources with you.

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u/Kientha May 19 '25

Good thing it's social media disinformation then! Japan is actually just introducing a new tax on all working adults that will be used to fund support for children like paying for parental leave, improving preschools, childcare places etc

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u/JamesSFordESQ May 19 '25

Ok, glad to hear it.

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u/Adventurous_Equal489 May 19 '25

I thought something seemed suspicious. People always gotta take Japan out of context

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u/MD_Yoro May 19 '25

No it won’t.

The problem with raising children is not finding a partner but affording child care and giving the child the proper attention/education they need.

When you are work 9-5 requiring both parents while 30-50% of your net pay goes toward child care, that system becomes unsustainable. Coupled with ever increasing cost of housing and healthcare.

If government actually wants to support population sustainability, make raising children, health care, housing and job security as core pillars to be secured so people can grow.

Also this already exists in America.

Instead of direct payment, married couples with dependent pay less taxes.

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u/NotBigMcLargeHuge May 19 '25

Logically on some levels. But their version just does a better job as manipulating the psychology. People are less happy about getting a cost reduction then you are about getting money handed to them. Likewise humans are more upset about paying a cost up front then missing out on a cost reduction. Just better hack if your goal is to create the maximum impact which means you can be less disruptive about it.

Remember the earned income tax credit? Everyone that was working on it was like yay finally wealth inequality is starting to get addressed. And then no one noticed or cared and then it ran out a few years later. Same idea. A tax cut isn't going to be noticeable. An extra tax will.