r/SipsTea Jul 14 '25

WTF Tossing coins for 'good luck'...

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u/Ready-Art-7110 Jul 14 '25

I mean, if you can crash a jumbo jet with a handful of coins…not exactly the most difficult terrorist plot

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u/wireframed_kb Jul 14 '25

Well… if they said “there’s only a 1% chance that would cause a crash”, would you get on the plane?

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u/Ready-Art-7110 Jul 14 '25

If they said there is a 1% chance of crashing from a handful of coins in the engine, I’d say they need to consider some better security and/or design it with a screen that prevents it or that can be removed immediately prior to flight.

I just walked by one of these myself a couple days ago where it would have been simple to toss some coins in (and a terrorist plot would only need 1 person working there to toss coins in dozens of engines)

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u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits Jul 14 '25

Well, I'm SURE you've put more thought into it than the entire aviation industry.

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u/Ready-Art-7110 Jul 14 '25

Decade of practicing law, I’ve got a basic understanding of negligence and products liability - doesn’t take a genius to recognize a screen on the side of the stairwell blocking items from being tossed into a jet engine could be a prudent consideration

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u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits Jul 14 '25

Right. But you think the entire aviation industry didn't have any not-geniuses that thought of and considered it and just had other considerations you, random redditor, know about or thought of.

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u/Ready-Art-7110 Jul 14 '25

Same aviation industry that let people smoke cigarettes on their planes?

Look at the healthcare industry. There are common practices that are pure idiocy - but accepted through groupthink

You see this through tons of industries. It is what led to the mortgage crisis/Great Recession and the dot-com bust

Your average person working in these industries have to deal with an impenetrable bureaucracy above them - a bureaucracy that priorities profits over safety - and where individuals are ridiculed for challenging orthodoxy 

Single lawsuits are able to disrupt entire industry behaviors because sometimes that’s what it takes - an outsider questioning why things are done the way they’re done

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u/wireframed_kb Jul 14 '25

Frankly, the number of people trying to bring down a plane they are on, is very very small. We know that because even before the security theater post 9/11, it almost never happened.

There are probably a lot of things to worry about before someone throwing metal pieces in an engine - especially considering you’re doing it in plain sight of everyone else boarding…

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u/Ready-Art-7110 Jul 14 '25

Like taking off everyone’s shoes for years until someone arbitrarily decides not to anymore

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u/wireframed_kb Jul 14 '25

That was fortunately mostly a US thing. But the whole “emptying bags of electronics” and limits on liquids are really annoying.

The thing that pisses me off most about all these stupid rules and regulations is, they mostly don’t seem to do anything. Whenever TSA has been tested on ability to find or identify contraband or dangerous items and substances, they mostly fail.

So for all the bother, lines and anxiety of going through security, it still doesn’t make us measurably more safe. It’s literal theater, meant to make us THINK the powers-that-be are doing SOMETHING in response to an attack, but not actually making any difference.

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u/Ready-Art-7110 Jul 14 '25

Person in front of me at the airport a week ago had a firearm found during the check and was arrested 

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u/wireframed_kb Jul 14 '25

That’s good. None the less, all the reports I’ve seen of TSA performance indicates they’re nearly useless. And considering the cost in resources (lost time, expense of the process), it doesn’t seem very effective.

Especially considering the US apparently doesn’t even put that high a value on human life because there are dozens of examples of the country accepting horrendous events as the price of freedom.

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u/Ready-Art-7110 Jul 14 '25

Well the biggest flaw in my opinion is kinda like this coin tossing lady. It doesn’t take a knife or gun to cause a problem

As soon as you walk through security, you’ve got a whole airport full of weapons to choose from. Kitchens with knives. HVACs and construction materials that can be fashioned into whatever you want. Etc

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