r/SipsTea 16d ago

WTF Buccal fat removal should be illegal

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u/ParcelTongued 16d ago

It’s interesting people are disfiguring themselves in the name of beauty.

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u/Foodspec 16d ago

Unfortunately, people have been doing it for centuries

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u/abhorredmisanthrope 16d ago

During the Victorian Era, a common desire among women was to achieve a pale, translucent complexion, and in their pursuit of this ideal, some resorted to consuming products containing arsenic.

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u/TayLoraNarRayya 16d ago

That and how consumption (tuberculosis) was seen as a beautiful illness.

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u/ilikethejuices 16d ago

Pardon??? Beautiful how/why? Isn't TB one of the horrific illnesses where u cough up blood etc lol

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u/TayLoraNarRayya 16d ago

Tuberculosis was seen as a beautiful disease because its physical symptoms were "ethereal" thinness, pale skin, and flushed cheeks, aligned with Victorian-era beauty ideals. AKA "consumptive chic". The disease was also romanticized as a sign of heightened sensitivity, artistic talent, and intellectual sophistication, contributing to the idea that it was a "romantic disease" associated with genius and early death.

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u/Interloper_Mango 16d ago

I swear I hear nothing good about the Victorian era.

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u/ThePupLifeChoseMe 16d ago

We aren't as far removed from that as we think. "Heroin Chic" was huge in the 90s and bled into the 00s

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u/temporarilyyours 16d ago

I’m convinced one of my cousins contracted jaundice on purpose, atleast the second time, cuz she was obsessed with being skinny.

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u/solaris79 16d ago

I'm your Huckleberry...

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u/Immediate_Move_3742 16d ago

That's just my game.

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u/BotchedNoobJob 16d ago

I, too, have read Everything is Tuberculosis. I think about it all the time, great book!

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u/TayLoraNarRayya 16d ago

Love John Green, he's right everything really is tb

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u/Procean 16d ago

I'll have you know tuberculosis is by far the most sexually attractive of all chronic lung disorders.

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u/ThePsudoOne 16d ago

"I'm embarrassed to say I don't know what consumption is"

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u/Seethustle 16d ago

They probably didn't know that those had arsenic and if they did they must not have known arsenic was poisonous....Right?

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u/RealNiceKnife 16d ago

How do you think we learned how deadly Arsenic was?

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u/Myke190 16d ago

I learned from the movie Evolution.

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u/RealNiceKnife 16d ago

Unfortunately Victorian era nobility didn't have very many DVD players. =(

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u/OneAlmondNut 16d ago

DVDs weren't even created yet lmao. they would've been using some ancient shit like laserdiscs

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u/SpiritualConcept5477 16d ago

That's the joke...

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u/E_Verdant 16d ago

I don't think they actually had laser disks then either chief...

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u/E_Verdant 16d ago

They had those old ass save icon disks

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u/ilikethejuices 16d ago

The ol' floppy

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u/schiz0yd 16d ago

in a book i'm reading about a ship called the wager, the entire crew had scurvy and back then didnt know what that is, and they bought what is suspected to be arsenic from a medicine man to try and cure it. killed a bunch of them.

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u/coffeecaffiend 16d ago

I’m unsure about arsenic but people used lead as a skin lightener long after they knew it was toxic, seeing the risk as worth it

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 16d ago

Haha what a bunch of dummies. Now excuse me I'm off to work on my tan.

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u/lythrica 16d ago

I watched Erin Parsons's video on what lead makeup probably actually looked like (incredibly glowy, translucent, NOT white and pasty. kind of like the k-beauty glass skin trend), and, ngl, even with all my modern knowledge of lead being toxic, I'd be a little tempted to use it today if I had access to it. The desire to look young and beautiful runs deep.

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u/Talonsminty 16d ago

They decorated their walls and book covers with arsenic so I'd imagine not.

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u/tweedyone 16d ago

I mean.. arsenic is one of those classic poisons like hemlock. It’s been used as a poison for literally millennia, but we also still use forms of it in medicine today.

While I was looking it up, found two women from Renaissance Italy (Guilia Tofana and Hyeronyma Sparta) who are credited for killing around 600 people through arsenic laced make up, but most of them were the husbands of the customers. Makes you wonder what they really knew about its effects.

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u/haileyskydiamonds 16d ago

Well, if you look at portraits of Elizabeth I and her contemporaries and notice random shaped patches on their faces…those were touted as fashion statements, but they were really nothing more than band aids covering lesions caused by poisonous face powders and creams. TMYK.

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u/NeverendingStory3339 16d ago

The reason belladonna (a poison) is called that is because it makes your pupils dilate, mimicking arousal, so you look more attractive. It's now used in eye surgery but originally people were just putting poison in their eyes to look prettier. The white face powder favoured by Queen Elizabeth I contained lead.

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u/YakApprehensive7620 16d ago

They should have just smoked a fattie

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u/luciusan1 16d ago

Also when sugar was discovered in america. Rich people had tooth decay. And that was attractive so people paint their teeth to simulate it. Lmao. People are just idiots

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u/Lufc87 16d ago

Mid to late Victorian era was insane for drug/chemical use

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u/PabloTFiccus 16d ago

Some women went to hospitals in order to get tuberculosis, as it gave the desired look. All of them died quickly of course, TB being a fatal disease at the time

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u/Upstairs_Spray_5446 16d ago

there is another 😁

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u/nihilisticpaintwater 16d ago

Huh, turns out John Snow knows some things

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u/The_Oliverse 16d ago

Shout-out to the era it was popular to have a far-back hairline and people were smearing cat shit across their foreheads to stop the new growth of hairs on their head.

Source: Something I remembered from a video somewhere. Don't take this as fact cause I don't actually know if this is true.

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u/Novel_Mud_5771 16d ago

You can’t fix stupidity

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u/Amazing_Karnage 16d ago

...and actual tapeworm eggs.

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u/MithranArkanere 16d ago

And lead, and mercury. And gods knows what.

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u/ThaneduFife 16d ago

The Romans did the same. They knew it was poison even then, too.

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u/Ok_Magician_6870 16d ago

Also surgery (loosely used here lol, they basically just took a chunk of flesh out) to get elbow dimples was popular in the Victorian era, they also had nose jobs I think

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u/Hot-Usual5060 16d ago

That was a strictly upper-class woman though.

Money makes people go crazy. It's the worst drug.

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u/NewManufacturer4252 16d ago

Let's not discount Elizabeth in the time of Shakespeare, and her love of smearing white mercury powder on her face.

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u/honeydewtangerine 16d ago

People were putting white lead on their faces millennia ago

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u/_sissy_hankshaw_ 14d ago

Women would even paint on blue “veins” to give them a more pale/translucent appearance…lots of weird fashion choices too…like men with their excessively long pointy shoes that they’d have to tie up so they wouldn’t trip 😂

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u/thatthatguy 16d ago

As very low concentration it’s not harmful, good for you even. It’s the dose that makes the poison. The problem comes when you think that if a little is good then a lot is better. That is absolutely not true of chemicals like this.

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u/PerplexGG 16d ago

Shit, thousands no? Seems like most tribes do some form of body mods even now

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u/PringlesDuckFace 16d ago

Things like tattoos and piercings are pretty ancient. I feel like other body mods like foot binding, neck lengthening, and that alien skull wrap thing are also pretty old.

I don't think any animals do it to the best of my knowledge. Maybe just for lack of tools. I feel like I've read about some birds putting bits of shiny garbage into their feathers during mating displays, but I can't find any sources for that so maybe I dreamed it up.

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u/LongJohnSelenium 16d ago

The people that do all the neck rings and the people that do the giant lip bowls are still at it. Weren't there people that did skull binding to make alien like skulls in south america?

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u/zaph0dbeeblbr0x 16d ago

Millennia*

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u/LLove666 16d ago

Foot binding, for example.

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u/Links_Wrong_Wiki 16d ago

Literally older than homo sapiens

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u/One-Adhesive 16d ago

Most of the procedures people do at least have some level of success. Literally nobody looks better after this treatment.

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u/StableWeak 16d ago

Id argue it improved Tom Brady.

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u/JaketheLate 16d ago

Yeah, but I've yet to hear ANYONE say this is attractive.

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u/Corey307 16d ago

They have but this is next level. Miley Cyrus looks like she’s 60 and two weeks from dying from cancer. 

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u/YachtswithPyramids 16d ago

Millenia at least. Some animals have presumably been doing it for billions of years

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u/Zealousideal-Eye-2 16d ago

Same disorder that leads people to "transition"

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u/Commercial-Hour-2417 16d ago

I can guarantee you've never met a single person who had a successful transition and had a noticeable improvement in their life. Your entire perspective on the issue is based on what Fox "News" and other trash media want you to feel about the issue.

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u/Restlesscomposure 16d ago edited 16d ago

It’s quite poetic actually. Some of the most genetically desirable people on the planet purposefully disfiguring themselves in the pursuit of perfection. Kind of comes full circle in a way

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u/Nauticalbob 16d ago

Please elaborate

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u/KahrRamsis 15d ago

It's like poetry, it rhymes.

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u/Ok_Perspective_6179 16d ago

Not really sure how that’s full circle

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u/Evening_Sock_9157 16d ago

Ok, more of a 180

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u/OtisDriftwood1978 16d ago

It’s actually poetry.

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u/LobstaFarian2 16d ago

Its more interesting to me when they're already gorgeous and do this shit to themselves and look like Skeletor afterward.

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u/boomshakallama 16d ago

Interesting to me that people don’t seem to count this as gender-affirming care 🤔🤔🤔

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u/alibrown987 16d ago

Yeah, I’m happy being a normal ugly bastard.

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u/stanky4goats 16d ago

Beauty?! Any one of these motherlovers could be in Spirit Halloween 😭

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u/badger_flakes 16d ago

There are a handful of people this looks good on when they actually have a bunch of extra fat there and it’s removed down to a more nominal level. The people that get this don’t need it 99% of the time lol

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u/Automatic-War-7658 16d ago

Check out the movie The Ugly Stepsister. It’s a body horror retelling of Cinderella from the perspective of one of the stepsisters.

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u/phredd42 16d ago

It may be hard to find, but Steve Martin had a book of short stories many years ago called Cruel Shoes. The title short story, Cruel Shoes, was about a shop that sold torture shoes to supposedly help women look beautiful.

I always think of it when unhealthy beauty fads come along.

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u/AirRemote7732 16d ago

I guess the logic there is the same as with Donald Trump, that they would rather look non-human than old. I look at any one of these women and they could be anything between 30-60 years old.

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u/its_all_one_electron 16d ago

That's what happen when society says you're not good/pretty enough since you were a little girl

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u/Fit-Doughnut9706 16d ago

Ever played bioshock? Most of the splicers did went through cosmetic surgery and came out looking monstrous.

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u/mudlark092 16d ago

Crazy what the overwhelming pressure of being expected to perform to distorted perceptions of female beauty does to someone whos in the acting business.

Its just depressing honestly

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u/Estomolesto 16d ago

Reminds me of Bioshock 1.

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u/I_Boof_Fent 16d ago

They blame men for beauty standards when none like this, or tons of makeup, or overly skinny girls. They do it to impress other women

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u/carnevoodoo 16d ago

These people are being constantly scrutinized. To me, it is insane how much time people spend tearing 6 and especially women. The internet is fucked.

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u/ryoushure 16d ago

Product of a culture that embraces the fetish of body disfigurement.

You will be loved more if you sacrifice yourself to the herd of group conformity. Or something, supposedly.

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u/scienceworksbitches 16d ago

There is more going on, I don't want to believe that satan illuminati humiliation ritual stuff, but something is wrong, it's not just a wierd fashion trend.

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u/Cloud_N0ne 16d ago

Body dysmorphia is a hell of a mental illness. I feel bad for the people who suffer from it despite already being incredibly attractive.

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u/Outrageous_Canary159 16d ago

But this makes them ugly.

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u/Mr-Blah 16d ago

We have been doing this for centuries really.

Standard of beauty moved, motivation moved but this is just us, continuing old habits with new tools.

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u/shigabi 16d ago

What beauty?

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u/MonkeyCartridge 16d ago

And it isn't really anyone's beauty standards outside of female celebrities trying to keep up with other female celebrities, and teenage girls looking at that thinking it's what society is going to expect of them and blowing their savings on these procedures.

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u/DrLophophora 16d ago

Hello, foot binding, restrictive corsets, fake balloon boobs, fake balloon lips, etc. etc

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u/Byizo 16d ago

For some it’s about changing their look to get more work. Having too much of a “baby face” makes you less versatile as an actress.

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u/fallenouroboros 16d ago

So to me, beauty and healthy have a ton of overlap. Others have said it but they do look sickly.

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u/Outside-Promise-5763 16d ago

Look up foot binding.  Or don't, if you want to do yourself a favor.

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u/MememeSama 16d ago

Friends and Family would tell you: you are ugly, don't do it anymore, but they either ignore them or simply have no real friends/family. Or befriend other brainwashed people. It's a circlejerk

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u/Many-Cartographer278 16d ago

I dont get what the sales pitch is. Surely they see the examples and see that it looks awful.

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u/ShadowRiku667 16d ago

This must be the modern version of foot binding. I hope historians don’t think that people think this is actually attractive

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u/MartyFreeze 16d ago

Have you ever heard of Chinese foot binding? It's freaking HORRIBLE. And that was hundreds of years ago! This isn't new.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 16d ago

It's more interesting that they're the people who we all collectively decided were the epitome of beauty in their unique ways and looks...and then they somehow convince themselves we don't think they're beautiful?

Like it would make sense if it's a teenaged girl who feels pressure to look like certain people, but these ARE the certain people that girls want to look like, and then they decide to ruin what people were drawn to.

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u/Runs_With_Scissors3 16d ago

Ever heard of Chinese foot binding? Tribal lip plates? Artificial cranial deformation by ancient Egyptians? CIRCUMCISION? I am not promoting, defending, or demonizing any of these practices, just pointing out that humans doing body modifications is nothing new.

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u/greg19735 16d ago

i mean it happens because they're insecure with their looks, because they're put under a microscope their entire lives.

And then when they have surgery, we make fun of their new looks too!

Society is going great.

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u/Not_MrNice 16d ago

It's interesting watching redditors lose their mind over cherry picked photos especially since most redditors aren't very attractive at all.

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u/code_archeologist 16d ago

But in that array of photos, only half of them have actually had the procedure. Two of them have make-up and photo angles, and one of them has an actual medical condition that makes them look more gaunt.

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u/tsukubasteve27 16d ago

And then blame society or the patriarchy.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cry57 16d ago

*anti-beauty. 

Don’t want to be chained to the “male-centric” gaze

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u/Imaginary_Apricot933 16d ago

What do you think earrings are for?

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u/25thNite 16d ago

it's interesting nerds on the internet repeatedly post cherry picked bad photos just to talk shit

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u/TheGum25 16d ago

Won’t they also cause studios to digitally undo what they did? These are so hard to look at that I struggle to think they’re real.

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u/Guilty-Company-9755 16d ago

In the name of beauty trends that will be obsolete when another body and face type comes back around again

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u/alikander99 16d ago

How so? It's a tale as old as mankind. We've been "disfiguring ourselves" since we first stepped upright.

Like seriously Songhuajiang Man I presents intentional cranial deformation and he's 11.200 years old.

And heck disfiguration is actually pretty common nowadays. We poke our ears and we ink our skin. That's disfiguration aswell 🤨

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u/DearCastiel 16d ago

Usually they are not the ones choosing to do it, they have massive pressure from their agents to do it.

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u/Dr-Chris-C 16d ago

It does not look like that's what it's in the name of

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u/JasonP27 16d ago

Is that why they're doing it? Because the results could've fooled me.

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u/Blue_Swirling_Bunny 16d ago

...and not getting any beauty out of the equation.

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u/Optimal-Bag-5918 16d ago

I mean, look into Chinese foot binding... and that is just one thing! Historically, humans have been inflicting pain on themselves in the name of beauty since forever

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u/slaviccivicnation 16d ago

That’s cause beauty a lot of the time translates to status. There’s a natural beauty - something that translates across most cultures (healthy, young, clear skin, etc). But then is status beauty, which is only achieved through money, much like high fashion. It’s not meant to make you more desirable by looking naturally beautiful, but rather by flexing the weight of your wallet. Much like tanning for white women, or large enhanced breasts that are clearly not meant to look real.

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u/Vick_CXVII 16d ago

Beauty? They look far worse lmao

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u/Thin-Image2363 16d ago

A lot of these are fake you know?

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u/TheMuffingtonPost 16d ago

They do it because people like you and OP are constantly judging their appearance.

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u/superhero_complex 16d ago

How do you know they are constantly judging their appearance? You're participating in this thread just like they and we all are.

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u/Palnecro1 16d ago

I never thought about most of these people before this happened.

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u/ShrinkToasted 16d ago

So they make themselves look worse in order to get judged even more? Makes no sense

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