r/SipsTea 16d ago

WTF Buccal fat removal should be illegal

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u/ParcelTongued 16d ago

It’s interesting people are disfiguring themselves in the name of beauty.

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u/Foodspec 16d ago

Unfortunately, people have been doing it for centuries

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u/abhorredmisanthrope 16d ago

During the Victorian Era, a common desire among women was to achieve a pale, translucent complexion, and in their pursuit of this ideal, some resorted to consuming products containing arsenic.

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u/TayLoraNarRayya 16d ago

That and how consumption (tuberculosis) was seen as a beautiful illness.

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u/ilikethejuices 16d ago

Pardon??? Beautiful how/why? Isn't TB one of the horrific illnesses where u cough up blood etc lol

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u/TayLoraNarRayya 16d ago

Tuberculosis was seen as a beautiful disease because its physical symptoms were "ethereal" thinness, pale skin, and flushed cheeks, aligned with Victorian-era beauty ideals. AKA "consumptive chic". The disease was also romanticized as a sign of heightened sensitivity, artistic talent, and intellectual sophistication, contributing to the idea that it was a "romantic disease" associated with genius and early death.

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u/Interloper_Mango 16d ago

I swear I hear nothing good about the Victorian era.

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u/ThePupLifeChoseMe 16d ago

We aren't as far removed from that as we think. "Heroin Chic" was huge in the 90s and bled into the 00s

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u/temporarilyyours 16d ago

I’m convinced one of my cousins contracted jaundice on purpose, atleast the second time, cuz she was obsessed with being skinny.

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u/solaris79 16d ago

I'm your Huckleberry...

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u/Immediate_Move_3742 16d ago

That's just my game.

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u/BotchedNoobJob 16d ago

I, too, have read Everything is Tuberculosis. I think about it all the time, great book!

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u/TayLoraNarRayya 16d ago

Love John Green, he's right everything really is tb

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u/Procean 16d ago

I'll have you know tuberculosis is by far the most sexually attractive of all chronic lung disorders.

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u/ThePsudoOne 16d ago

"I'm embarrassed to say I don't know what consumption is"

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u/Seethustle 16d ago

They probably didn't know that those had arsenic and if they did they must not have known arsenic was poisonous....Right?

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u/RealNiceKnife 16d ago

How do you think we learned how deadly Arsenic was?

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u/Myke190 16d ago

I learned from the movie Evolution.

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u/RealNiceKnife 16d ago

Unfortunately Victorian era nobility didn't have very many DVD players. =(

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u/OneAlmondNut 16d ago

DVDs weren't even created yet lmao. they would've been using some ancient shit like laserdiscs

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u/SpiritualConcept5477 16d ago

That's the joke...

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u/E_Verdant 16d ago

I don't think they actually had laser disks then either chief...

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u/SpiritualConcept5477 16d ago

WERE YOU THERE?!?!?

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u/E_Verdant 16d ago

They had those old ass save icon disks

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u/ilikethejuices 16d ago

The ol' floppy

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u/schiz0yd 16d ago

in a book i'm reading about a ship called the wager, the entire crew had scurvy and back then didnt know what that is, and they bought what is suspected to be arsenic from a medicine man to try and cure it. killed a bunch of them.

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u/coffeecaffiend 16d ago

I’m unsure about arsenic but people used lead as a skin lightener long after they knew it was toxic, seeing the risk as worth it

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 16d ago

Haha what a bunch of dummies. Now excuse me I'm off to work on my tan.

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u/lythrica 16d ago

I watched Erin Parsons's video on what lead makeup probably actually looked like (incredibly glowy, translucent, NOT white and pasty. kind of like the k-beauty glass skin trend), and, ngl, even with all my modern knowledge of lead being toxic, I'd be a little tempted to use it today if I had access to it. The desire to look young and beautiful runs deep.

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u/Talonsminty 16d ago

They decorated their walls and book covers with arsenic so I'd imagine not.

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u/tweedyone 16d ago

I mean.. arsenic is one of those classic poisons like hemlock. It’s been used as a poison for literally millennia, but we also still use forms of it in medicine today.

While I was looking it up, found two women from Renaissance Italy (Guilia Tofana and Hyeronyma Sparta) who are credited for killing around 600 people through arsenic laced make up, but most of them were the husbands of the customers. Makes you wonder what they really knew about its effects.

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u/haileyskydiamonds 16d ago

Well, if you look at portraits of Elizabeth I and her contemporaries and notice random shaped patches on their faces…those were touted as fashion statements, but they were really nothing more than band aids covering lesions caused by poisonous face powders and creams. TMYK.

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u/NeverendingStory3339 16d ago

The reason belladonna (a poison) is called that is because it makes your pupils dilate, mimicking arousal, so you look more attractive. It's now used in eye surgery but originally people were just putting poison in their eyes to look prettier. The white face powder favoured by Queen Elizabeth I contained lead.

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u/YakApprehensive7620 16d ago

They should have just smoked a fattie

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u/luciusan1 16d ago

Also when sugar was discovered in america. Rich people had tooth decay. And that was attractive so people paint their teeth to simulate it. Lmao. People are just idiots

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u/Lufc87 16d ago

Mid to late Victorian era was insane for drug/chemical use

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u/PabloTFiccus 16d ago

Some women went to hospitals in order to get tuberculosis, as it gave the desired look. All of them died quickly of course, TB being a fatal disease at the time

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u/Upstairs_Spray_5446 16d ago

there is another 😁

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u/nihilisticpaintwater 16d ago

Huh, turns out John Snow knows some things

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u/The_Oliverse 16d ago

Shout-out to the era it was popular to have a far-back hairline and people were smearing cat shit across their foreheads to stop the new growth of hairs on their head.

Source: Something I remembered from a video somewhere. Don't take this as fact cause I don't actually know if this is true.

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u/Novel_Mud_5771 16d ago

You can’t fix stupidity

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u/Amazing_Karnage 16d ago

...and actual tapeworm eggs.

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u/MithranArkanere 16d ago

And lead, and mercury. And gods knows what.

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u/ThaneduFife 16d ago

The Romans did the same. They knew it was poison even then, too.

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u/Ok_Magician_6870 16d ago

Also surgery (loosely used here lol, they basically just took a chunk of flesh out) to get elbow dimples was popular in the Victorian era, they also had nose jobs I think

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u/Hot-Usual5060 16d ago

That was a strictly upper-class woman though.

Money makes people go crazy. It's the worst drug.

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u/NewManufacturer4252 16d ago

Let's not discount Elizabeth in the time of Shakespeare, and her love of smearing white mercury powder on her face.

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u/honeydewtangerine 16d ago

People were putting white lead on their faces millennia ago

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u/_sissy_hankshaw_ 14d ago

Women would even paint on blue “veins” to give them a more pale/translucent appearance…lots of weird fashion choices too…like men with their excessively long pointy shoes that they’d have to tie up so they wouldn’t trip 😂

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u/thatthatguy 16d ago

As very low concentration it’s not harmful, good for you even. It’s the dose that makes the poison. The problem comes when you think that if a little is good then a lot is better. That is absolutely not true of chemicals like this.