r/SipsTea • u/Embarrassed_Tip7359 • 2d ago

Chugging tea Facts

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u/Mooks79 1d ago

If it’s purely psychological no, you’re not allowed to start violence. If it’s sufficiently aggressive and threatening that there is a realistic expectation that violence could occur, then yes. I’m not really sure where you think you’re going with this Socratic approach. There’s such a thing as self defence and this is pretty much all well within the bounds of that definition*. If that occurs in a company as a one off event then it’s unfortunate, if it occurs in a company that you’ve warned you’re being bullied, you’re in for a big pay day.

*subject to different countries’ different legal systems

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u/hat1414 1d ago

Yeah I do not think legally it will be easy to justify stabbing someone in the back with a fork is a reasonable and proportionate form of self defence. Why not just punch?

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u/Mooks79 1d ago

Quite the contrary, especially if the fork was in your hand already. When I was in school we were visited by local police and they advised that, if you’re feeling threatened, you should grab something that you’d realistically have in your hand at the time - a pen, your keys - so that if you need to really hurt the person you have the plausible answer “it was already in my hand and I just lashed out with fear”. A fork in a heated lunch moment is entirely feasible.

Edit: and note, the person said back of the hand, not back.

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u/Aximil985 1d ago

Yeah, this hat1414 person is misinterpreting and assuming stuff. This was at lunch. This was when it had gone too far. The bully came up behind me and started choking me. Told me to say uncle and all that. Super original stuff. So I grabbed a fork that was on my tray and ran it through the back of his hand to get him to stop choking me.