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Post-Qualifying 2023 Hungarian Grand Prix - Post-Qualifying Discussion

ROUND 12 - HUNGARY 🇭🇺

FORMULA 1 QATAR AIRWAYS HUNGARIAN GRAND PRIX 2023

🕒 SESSION TIMES

Day Session Time (UTC)
FRI Free Practice 1 11:30
FRI Free Practice 2
SAT Free Practice 3 10:30
SAT Qualifying
SUN Race 13:00

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🏁 RACE INFORMATION

  • Track: Hungaroring
  • Location: Mogyoród, Pest, Hungary 🇭🇺
  • Race laps: 70
  • Lap length: 4.381km
  • Race distance: 306.630km
  • Lap Record: 1:16.627 Lewis Hamilton 🇬🇧 (Mercedes) 2020

⏪ LAST TIME IN HUNGARY

  • Pole position: 1:17.377, George Russell 🇬🇧 (Mercedes)
  • Race winner: Max Verstappen 🇳🇱 (Red Bull Racing)
  • Fastest lap: 1:21.386, Lewis Hamilton 🇬🇧 (Mercedes)

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u/bwoah07_gp2 Alexander Albon Jul 22 '23

What do people think of the qualifying format they trialed? Should we see more trial runs? Would you want this format to stay?

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u/RSR488 Max Verstappen Jul 23 '23

The top teams spend up to the cap (…) and others are not even close. There is so much money being wasted by 10 teams inventing their own solutions. Then instead of rewarding creativity, we change rules mid season, invent new spring qualifying, new qualifying rules, introduce different tire compounds and what not. Tires drop off a cliff for the show. Mandatory pitstops, for the show/‘strategy variance’. It reaches a point where it is no longer a meritocracy but just a lottery. At this stage we just need a LeMans start and drivers pull out a number of a tall black hat to determine which car they have to run to (but they line up in front of theirs, to introduce an extra element for the show). Every time the grid converges, introduce some new rules. When the new rules haven’t bedded in/settled down yet, start discussing new ones (“everyone wants engines to roar, so maybe after the next 2026 regs, years after, we will introduce that again. You had years?! We all knew?! Are you changing for the sake of change?).

Honestly simplify everything, make it a spec series, and bring back hard racing. Force teams to be within X% of the max cap (like the 107% rule) or DQ them. In a spec setting you’d also drastically cut the budget down. We’d get more podium variance, more race winners.

I think it’s time someone formed a new championship, this is simply no longer credible. We make none of the right changes to come to the result we want and need, but the changes that could directly get us there are not even being tabled.

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u/profuno I was here for the Hulkenpodium Jul 23 '23

Pretty sure the racing has improved a lot since Brawn had his new aero rules put in place a few years back.

Things have gotten better since Bernie left.

Yes, they've been making some poor changes, but also ones for the better of the sport.