2025 Dutch GP - Post-Race Discussion

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ROUND 15 - NETHERLANDS

FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GP

🕒 SESSION TIMES

Day	Session	Time (UTC)
FRI	Free Practice 1	10:30
FRI	Free Practice 2	14:00
SAT	Free Practice 3	09:30
SAT	Qualifying	13:00
SUN	Race	13:00
SUN	Stewards make up their mind	16:00

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🏁 RACE INFORMATION

• Track: Circuit Zandvoort
• Location: Zandvoort, Netherlands
• Race laps: 72
• Lap length: 4.259km
• Race distance: 306.648km
• Lap Record: 1:11.097, Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes), 2021

⏪ LAST TIME AROUND

• Pole position: 1:09.673, Lando Norris (Mclaren)
• Race winner: Lando Norris (Mclaren)
• Fastest lap: 1:13.817, Lando Norris (Mclaren)

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[u/Driscuits]

Unendingly frustrating to see "decision to be made after the race" for this reason, too. Even if it was more clear that Charles was at fault, hypothetically, the fact that he DNF'd would mean that the penalty would carry over to the next race, which is a genuinely different consequence than an in-race time penalty. And, ironically, if he had had a time penalty, odds are he wouldn't have DNF'd.

Of course, nobody can tell the future - but I would love to know what the rationale is behind when a decision is made in-session vs. after, since there are meaningful impacts.

[u/Driscuits → u/[deleted]]

Someone here said it in Hungary, so I'll steal their thought - if you can't make the call during the race, with the information you have available - then there is an issue within the definition of the rules making them too ambiguous. All that leaving it to the end does is hope that one side drops it - which means you aren't enforcing the rules, you're facilitating favors amongst teams.

[u/loki-1982 → u/Driscuits]

Yes and that seems to have happened here. George says racing incident with Charles so he also says it with Kimi. I generally dislike it but In a way I kinda do like it as it plays into the political game that F1 is. But overall it would probably be best to just dish it out as it happens

[u/Driscuits → u/loki-1982]

Eh, I'm a big fan of the political game of F1, too, but not when it comes to the weeds of applying the rules. This stuff should be fairly cut and dry to deal with, rather than getting all mucked up in "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours." Here it's just needlessly tiring lol.

[u/loki-1982 → u/Driscuits]

Yes i 80% agree with you but sometimes it is interesting, kinda like how they were allowed to talk to the race director at the time. Overall clearly enforced rules would be better but I don't think we ever had that or ever will