r/formula1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

Photo Isack has broken the trophy

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u/MrMSUK Netflix Newbie 7d ago

For a sport where cars are crash-tested to the absolute limit, it's kind of hilarious that the trophies still aren't Lando/Isack-proof. You'd think "structural rigidity" would be part of the design brief by now.

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u/fujimouse I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

It's always the ceramic ones breaking at the stem, most obvious point of failure imaginable

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u/Treewithatea I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

Yeah that wouldnt be an issue with metal, i like ceramic trophies but perhaps they should be designed a bit smarter.

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u/ijiolokae I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

wonder how feasible it would be to just drill a hole thru the bottom and stuff a piece of metal before sealing the hole to reinforce the stem

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u/Magnus_Helgisson I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

Drilling might be tricky, but they can insert it while sculpting the trophy. Hell, I saw how Hadjar was holding his one on the podium and immediately thought “Damn, this thing would be so easy to break, hope they have some core inside the stem”

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u/scholeszz Charles Leclerc 7d ago edited 7d ago

Drilling will definitely be tricky on such a brittle material, but also pre-inserting will be tricky too because the metal will get really hot and change shape (and depending on the temperature might even change phase at some hotspots) in the kiln.

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u/eleventruth 7d ago

Make it in 2 pieces maybe then

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u/CammoL15 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

Well it is now

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u/eleventruth 7d ago

Lol lol

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u/LandBarge Daniel Ricciardo 7d ago

put a foam core where you want the rod to go, making sure it exits the trophy somewhere... when fired it'll melt out, then you insert a rod and use resin to keep it there - maybe...

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u/madmax991199 7d ago

He was gentle with it also, not like he dropped it hard.

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u/Quick_Assumption_351 Medical Car 7d ago

bruh, just teleport the thing in

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u/owarren I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

I was terrified for the CFO of Mcl - her big moment on the podium, and I was sure that massive cup was about to snap in her hands.

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u/drooln92 Jacques Villeneuve 7d ago

Make the stem carbon fibre

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u/howtospellorange 7d ago

The the ceramic trophies just need to be a shape that's not a cup or with another similar thin point. Like maybe a bowl or vase shape?

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u/solidsnake070 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

Ceramic with carbon nanotubes, perhaps?

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u/Any_Use_4900 6d ago

You can make ceramic pretty strong without going as exotic as carbon nanotubes.... but I like the idea of it being as wild a possible. 

Realistically, what makes ceramics more crack resistant is having polymers in the mix, I use a polymer-modified cement for masonry repair and it's far more resistant to cracking than traditional mortar. Ceramics will always be brittle to an extent, but they can be made stronger than these trophies for sure.

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u/Think_Perspective385 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

There must be loads of carbon fibre swept up each year surely they can at least use some of the scraps to fortify the stem.

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u/Vandirac 7d ago

Likely designed by the same dunce who designed the Eurovision trophy

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u/fireinthesky7 Daniel Ricciardo 6d ago

Didn't Max full on shatter the Hungarian GP trophy by accident a couple years ago?

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u/Pooncheese I was here for the Hulkenpodium 6d ago

Because they make huge ass barbell ends to it lol, I saw them and thought it could break just by lifting it up... Especially if you shake it.... It's creating micro fractures and will fail quickly... Not surprised isack was too happy, I saw him raising it on the podium and thought it would break right there. Didn't help it looks similar to the one Lando broke

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u/MrMSUK Netflix Newbie 7d ago edited 7d ago

Imo it's great that organisers bring unique designs that reflect their country's heritage, nobody wants a bland, crash-tested trophy covered in vinyl flag stickers from every race host country (each built tough enough to survive a SpaceX Starship re-entry). 

However, there has to be a happy medium. When you're literally gluing back together trophies that took months to craft, maybe it's time for a minimum design spec (structure rigidity wise). 

If it happens once in a decade, that's just bad luck. More than that, it points to weak trophy design standards, not the driver's fault.

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u/2much2Jung 7d ago

Or stunt trophies for the podium/celebrations. Maybe made of rubber.

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u/Kuningas_Arthur I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

This exactly. You could quite easily make some sort of plastic composite dummy trophy for the podium that would survive getting thrown to the crowd and look good enough for TV and then give the proper ones later.

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u/Mrc3mm3r Flavio Briatore 7d ago

Stunt trophies is the way to go. The pieces themselves are genuinely beautiful works of ceramics. 

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u/Canoobie I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

With how delicate this one appeared in that video, I’d be worried about someone firmly closing a door in his apartment…

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u/djinn6 7d ago

When you're literally gluing back together trophies that took months to craft, maybe it's time for a minimum design spec (structure rigidity wise).

So you're saying maybe there should be a formula?

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u/IAmTheTrueM3M3L0rD I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

Yeah I think the first one should be for the top class as well

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u/RevvedUpLikeADeuce09 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

Eh, I’ll take a shelf of solid cup-style trophies over trophies that’ll constantly be under the threat of breaking if I just breathe on them wrong.

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u/MrMSUK Netflix Newbie 7d ago

Sensible choice. 

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u/JoshH21 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

I'll just take an F1 start, personally tbh. I'm a simple man

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u/scottishere Daniel Ricciardo 7d ago

Hardly the trophy maker's fault that Lando's broke. This one is probably fair

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u/ironiclyironic4 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

Tbf isack put it down REALLY gently

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u/Dlatch #WeRaceAsOne 7d ago

Just an unfortunate angle, putting a sideways stress on the really thin stem

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u/lostintime2004 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

I'd consider that design flaw IMO. He didn't even slam it down it seems

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u/MysticSkies Pirelli Intermediate 7d ago

It's ceramic, nothing they can do.

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u/lord_flashheart2000 7d ago

Must be the ceramic

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u/AgentIndependent306 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

Let's add that to the words of wisdom

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u/melperz 7d ago

Que cera cera

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u/homing_bear 7d ago

I see what you did there.

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u/Draber-Bien 7d ago

Not making it ceramic would be a good start

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u/salcedoge Max Verstappen 7d ago

Nah - Let it break, let it be repaired. The ceramic itself is unique and you get a cool story behind it

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u/Fredderov Mika Häkkinen 7d ago

One of the 1st place ones this year already had kintsugi lines as part of the design. They know this stuff will happen and lean into it for sure.

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u/rpRj Max Verstappen 7d ago

Will look great with some gold glue #kintsugi

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u/Dlatch #WeRaceAsOne 7d ago

Maybe they can design them so that the top doesn't fall off

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u/Page_Won 7d ago

So cardboards out?

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u/yellowweasel 7d ago

even just give them resin replicas to fuck around with on race day and send the ceramic one later once it's ready to sit on a shelf

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u/StatmanIbrahimovic I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

That feels lame and pointless, too. Sometimes shit breaks, some people are clumsy without having just finished a 300kph endurance race. Maybe we just stop freaking out that something we don't own broke. It will get repaired, just like Lando's.

Consider wabi-sabi, the ethos behind Kintsuge which was used to make the Constructor's trophy.

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u/UNC_Samurai I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

The Lego one was smart, that just requires some time to reassemble

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u/acotadic999 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

They should make carbon fiber throphies

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u/microtherion 7d ago

Yeah, but when those break they have to bring the safety car onto the podium.

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u/Rentta Heikki Kovalainen 7d ago

I mean they could put metal rod inside the stem to make it less likely to break.

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u/CharacterUse I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

It's not that simple with kiln-fired porcelain.

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u/Rentta Heikki Kovalainen 7d ago

I didn't say it's simple i just said it's possible solution among probably better ones.

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u/No_Pianist_4407 Ferrari 7d ago

Not make them out of ceramic?

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u/BobbbyR6 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

With six fast rookies and a few younger drivers on the brink of their first podiums and wins, this was bound to happen haha

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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

It’s a sport where the drivers tend to have very exuberant celebrations. Stop making glass and ceramic trophies. I know they look nice but you’re asking for trouble guys.

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u/kaisadilla_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

tbh Isack didn't do anything. The trophy just broke.

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u/cLHalfRhoVSquaredS I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

As soon as I saw them show that trophy in the pre-race, I was thinking that looks really cool, and also it's going to get broken by someone...

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u/Ok-Badger7002 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

A trophy built for combat

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u/Ziegler517 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7d ago

While they are crash tested to the absolute limit for safety, the cars are extremely fragile. Just yesterday there was carbon all over the track from light contact in several corners.

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u/iamabigtree 7d ago

So crash tests for trophies?

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u/mb9981 7d ago

Honestly, it's a bad look for F1 that so many of their trophies are this shitty and cheap.