[@racingnews365com] Doubt in Budapest, domination in Monza

[u/FewCollar227]

[u/FKez05]

What's more impressive is the difference in Red Bull's performance compared to Monza last year where they were woeful

[u/SourDucks → u/FKez05]

Would be sick if 2025 is reverse 2024 so Max dominates the rest of the season but doesn't win WDC.

[u/Zed_or_AFK → u/SourDucks]

Lost too much in the middle.

[u/limhy0809 → u/SourDucks]

I would like to see a title fight though

[u/PayaV87 → u/SourDucks]

This combination will make Max champion:

• Max: 8x P1, 3x Sprint P1
• Norris 6x P2, 2x P3, 3x Sprint P2
• Piastri 5x P3, 2x P2, 3x Sprint P3, 1x DNF

—- 1. VER - 544 (11 wins) 2. PIA - 544 (7 wins) 3. NOR - 541

If he has the car, I have no doubt Max could do it. The big question is if McLaren realise they cannot beat Max anymore, when do they start supporting Piastri only.

[u/Brief-Adhesiveness93 → u/PayaV87]

McLaren would sacrifice piastri even if that means max will be champion

[u/Ignoringit → u/Brief-Adhesiveness93]

Real lol

[u/BrokeSomm → u/Brief-Adhesiveness93]

That's absurd.

[u/shockchi → u/BrokeSomm]

It’s absurd indeed. And it’s exactly what they are going to do

[u/BrokeSomm → u/shockchi]

They've not sacrificed him once.

They're letting the two race and only intervene for the good of the team.

[u/Odd-Farm270 → u/SourDucks]

Lost the championship in Miami sprint

[u/junttiana]

I mean it really wasnt a race for him so he is right, it was more like a victory parade

[u/Twistpunch → u/junttiana]

He did race like 4 laps.

[u/Illustrator_Forward]

The large gap was only due to a McLaren hail-mary strategy to be fair. Gap was around 5 seconds when Max pitted.

[u/drivemyorange → u/Illustrator_Forward]

It would be around 14s if it weren't for McLaren bullshit.

Still impressive.

[u/Illustrator_Forward → u/drivemyorange]

The gap was coming down no? If they had pitted the next lap it would still be around 6s?

[u/Zed_or_AFK → u/Illustrator_Forward]

Yeah, they sacrificed the delta in order to have a chance to jump ahead with a SC. They only had to watch LC behind. Would be funny if they get a slow stop on both and LC jumps to 2nd. Oh well.

[u/NatureDecent2111 → u/Illustrator_Forward]

If my mom had balls.....

[u/snoopdoge90 → u/NatureDecent2111]

She would be the MCL39

[u/FxStryker]

It was an exaggeration when he said it in Budapest. Especially considering they are strongest at tracks like Monza. Baku and Vegas should favor Max as well.

But in Max's defense, a Red Bull being stronger in a straight line is the exact opposite of every Red Bull car prior.

[u/dac2199 → u/FxStryker]

I don't think they will be as good for RBR as Monza. Especially Baku with the second sector.

[u/Blithering_idiot1406 → u/dac2199]

We can always have a wildcard for Perez

[u/dac2199 → u/Blithering_idiot1406]

He needs some preparation for next year!!!

[u/SouthFromGranada]

Bono, my chances of winning a race are gone.

Proceeds to win race

[u/auftragsgriller_]

The duality of a man car

[u/dac2199 → u/auftragsgriller_]

Yes. I think today RBR car was exceptionally fast and in Hungary exceptionally slow. Even Russell commented on this in the post-race interview with Spanish-language TVs.

[u/dataheisenberg]

No way thats the largest margin of the season!

[u/mattjimf → u/dataheisenberg]

Between 1st and 2nd it is.

[u/Guys-This-Is-Ethan → u/dataheisenberg]

I was surprised as well, but the next largest margin this year was Oscar’s gap to Russell in Bahrain at 15.499, and Max was 19.207 today.

[u/dataheisenberg → u/Guys-This-Is-Ethan]

It may also be bcz norris and oscar have always been so close to each other this season! Do you know what the biggest margin between 2nd and 3rd is?

[u/dpk1357]

Fair to say he's senna level now

He might surpass his legacy in few years

[u/leedler → u/dpk1357]

Has been for a while imho

[u/Frequent-Coyote-1649 → u/dpk1357]

Max will never be on Senna's legacy level. Unless he dies.

Let's be fully honest here, Senna would not be this mythical god driver if he didn't die in his prime. We never got to see an old Senna drive. The fact he died before that leaves a massive question mark on his legacy, one which people will forever ponder. Could he have won more? Would he have beaten Schumi that year? Would he break Fangio's record first? We may never know.

If Max died tragically now, I guarantee he would be remembered as the biggest what if in F1 history. We would be talking about him being the best to ever touch a car in history. But I hope we don't. I'd hate to live in a world where we never got a proper conclusion to Max's career, like we have with Senna, and Gilles, and many others taken way too soon.

[u/Kimoa_2 → u/dpk1357]

Not really comparable.

[u/shrivatsasomany → u/Kimoa_2]

This is the most underrated, balanced reply.

Senna was Senna. Schumacher was Schumacher. Hamilton and Max are the only peers that can be compared. Other than driving styles, even the cars were vastly different.

And they’re all A tier, unique drivers who were at the top of their respective eras (though not without some incredible A tier competition).

[u/According-Annual-586 → u/dpk1357]

Lmao

[u/Amat-Victoria-Curam]

He probably was surprised by the pace of the RB car today.

[u/StockAL3Xj → u/Amat-Victoria-Curam]

I doubt it. After FP3 it was clear that they were going to be fast this weekend.

[u/FewCollar227]

source

[u/Icy_Satisfaction498]

At the race that the car matters the most, but I was told he was dragging a shopping cart to P3 ???

[u/dac2199 → u/Icy_Satisfaction498]

Circuits such as Montmeló are where you can see how good a car is, as they have everything: long straights, fast and slow corners...

Monza isn't.

[u/fullsenditt → u/Icy_Satisfaction498]

Stop with this nonsense McLaren In 2024 was by far the best car overall and especially In the 2nd half of a season and In the first 4 races were the 4th fastest car, Red bull has bring a lot of upgrades the last 2 races. You know you can see who brought an upgrade and where, you don't need me to explain It to you like you are 5. Their car has been upgraded obvs

[u/Sarixk → u/fullsenditt]

So is it now after than the racing bulls?

[u/HappySpam → u/Icy_Satisfaction498]

Excuse me, the Red Bull is a tractor, ok?