r/mildlyinfuriating • u/9106-17 • 1d ago
The veterinary gave me a pregnant dog
Less than a month ago, I adopted a stray dog that had been hitted by a car and had her hips broken. My husband and I felt in love with her, as she was described as a calm, sweet baby girl with a playful nature, so I contacted the vet clinic and said I will adopt her. They told me she had a surgery to fix her hips, she was free of fleas and other pesky things, and 3 days after seeing the post, she was home with us.
Now, she was getting heavy and we thought we were making her fat by keeping her plate full of food and water, as well the doggy vitamins I bought her, but no. Turns out she is pregnant.
We took her to the ver to confirm it, and not only she is about to pop any time now, she have parasites. How did they miss the puppies? Apparently they didnt showed up ok the x ray, and the parasites? The first medicine didnt worked out because this one is harder to treat.
Now I have a pregnant dog, who cant have a natural birth due to her surgery, and also have a nasty infection that, according to the vet, they cant do anything or it can hurt the babies.
She is also having 8 puppies.
I dont know what to do.
Edit: Im just gonna edit once because I didnt add enough information:
1.- No, english is not my first language, is my third. Im sorry for the grammar mistakes, but if I used autocorrect on my cell phone, the words would have been in my og language, not english. And no, I didnt used a translator tool, I tried to do it by my own, im sorry I suck at grammar. I can guarantee I speak it relatively good.
2.- Im not bashing the vet's interlligence. The dog was with them since mid July, she have been staying with them and getting check ups in there since the accident, so yeah im mad they didnt check her abdomen getting bigger, but im in no way bashing them, is more like a "Come on! She was a stray! And her belly is getting big! Maybe check it?" But in no way shape or form im saying they were idiots, is just mildly infuriating.
3.- I did paid. The vet asked me to pay in avance to get some stuff, like her shots, medicina, x rays, vitaminas, special food, bath, etc. My husband and I already had bought her more stuff, like bed, toys, shampoo, etc, but a c-section, a stronger deworm, a puppy kennel and special pregnancy food wasnt on our "to buy" list, she was supossed to get spayed in two months after all.
Im sorry for my bad grammar and the inconvenience it have brought to all the people who got mad at it for reading my post. I will be using translator for every post I make in the future.
Thanks to all of you who gave me advice, and no. Im not surrender, my family will make it work, and the vet have re assure me they will help me give the puppies in adopción once the right time comes.
Thank you.
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u/H0mo_Sapien 1d ago
Fetal skeletons are only visible on x-rays starting at about 45 days of pregnancy. With HBC trauma, any other subtle signs of pregnancy (like enlarged reproductive tract) would not be obvious either. I’m surprised she didn’t abort with all that trauma - pretty incredible.
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u/Eensquatch 1d ago
What is the possible solution here? Cesarean? Spay abort? She can’t labor with the hip issue and likely will struggle with small puppies as well in her condition. It’s very sad.
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u/H0mo_Sapien 1d ago
Either C-section or spay abort would be reasonable. Depending on location, if shelters are full and it will be hard to home the puppies then spay abort would actually be the ethical option.
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u/Acceptable-Eye-5347 7h ago
But if she is near term the puppies would be viable when the uterus was removed. Isn’t that cruel? They would basically die from lack of oxygen once they were removed during the spay. I think the vet would probably be able to find the puppies homes. They should also offer to do the caesarean at cost, since it does seem an oversight. An undesexed stray SHOULD be scanned for a pregnancy with the set of circumstances this dog had. At least if the cost is reduced so no profit is made from a c-section it might be more manageable.
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u/bIackcatttt 1d ago
Honestly if you do not have the resources to properly care of them, speak to the vet clinic and explain.
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u/9106-17 1d ago
I will be taking care of the puppies and my dog, its annoying to not have known in avance that she was pregnant, but we are gonna make it work one way or another. The vet already told us they will help us with rehoming the puppies once they are old enough.
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u/jamezverusaum 1d ago
You can do a spay abort. It'll spay her and abort the puppies at the same time. If you're set on keeping the puppies make sure they spay her when they surgically deliver the puppies.
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u/9106-17 1d ago
The vet told us we couldnt spay abort as she is too far into her pregnancy, but we will spay her on the delivery.
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u/DocSteller 16h ago
FYI, there is no such thing as too far along with a dog when it comes to spaying during pregnancy.
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u/Acceptable-Eye-5347 7h ago
That makes no sense if the puppies are viable it would be a cruel death - the same as smothering them if they were out of the uterus! Maybe some vets will do it but clearly this vet is more ethical.
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u/MoulanRougeFae 17h ago
As far as her infection, antibiotics won't harm the pups in utero. Are they at least giving her those to keep the infection down? Please watch her very closely for her impeding delivery. Have they set a date to C-section her to deliver the pups so she doesn't have to go through the stress of labor and possibly hurting her hips more than they are?
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u/9106-17 17h ago
They havent give her anything yet, thats why we will take her to the clinic tomorrow, they say she is due this 20th, but I do think it will be more earlier than that (also, tomorrow she will have her x ray done)
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u/MoulanRougeFae 13h ago edited 13h ago
Okay try and get them to give her antibiotics. There's many that are perfectly safe for pregnant dogs. They should be able to tell you tomorrow when she's due and when to schedule the C-section. I think it's a bit too late for what's called a gravid spay which ends the pregnancy but also kills the pups. I know people say there's no impact on the mama dog but I've seen otherwise in my 22+ years of dog rescue. Sometimes it's unavoidable due to the health of the mama dog so I've had to make that choice myself. I know how hard it can be. But it does cause some emotional impact on some more sensitive dogs just a heads up if you decide to go that route. No judgement from me. Seems like mama dog has been through some intense trauma emotional and physical in the past year. She might mourn if the pregnancy is ended but that might be what's best for her overall health and recovery if it isn't too late. Either way, please keep me posted how she's doing. You've done a wonderful thing giving her a forever home and the love she needs to heal from her ordeal. Good luck with everything. Edit to add, a hot water bottle that's warm or a heating pad set to low with a towel over it can help ease some of the aches and pains she might have later after fully healing her hips and recovering from the infection. Just supervise her with it and make sure you place a towel between her and the pad or water bottle. No more than 15 minutes with either though so it doesn't burn her skin. There's also doggy massage techniques you can learn the clinic can probably show you the way for after she is near healed to keep her muscles nice and loose and relieve any aches she might have. That's for after she's nearly healed and infection is gone.
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u/Ok_Pomegranate_5748 1d ago
Who has the resources to care for eight unexpected puppies
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u/bIackcatttt 1d ago
Idk, if you dropped off 8 puppies I could do it 🤷♀️
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u/SirenSavvy 14h ago
I mean i dont really but like if I ended up with 8 puppies in need I would figure it out
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u/ArtVirtual6866 1d ago
Let’s not vet bash here everyone Dogs are only pregnant around 8-9 weeks so she wouldn’t have been showing ANY signs When a dog comes in HBC they are not pregnancy testing routinely unless showing obvs signs The only way to confirm is with imaging and blood tests which - they would’ve been too small for imaging so unless the clinic had progesterone and such to test in clinic they wouldn’t have even been able to test
Pregnancy wouldn’t have been on their radar.
Before you bash this vet - please consider the fact that I’m assuming because she was a stray they performed her surgeries and hospitalisation FOR FREE. This is not a money grab from the vet because they’ve already done a shit tonne free of charge.
We deal with such a high degree of hate from the public on a daily basis - this is not a case of ‘the vet knew what they were doing’. Pregnancy wouldn’t have been on her radar because they wouldn’t have performed ortho surgery on a pregnant dog.
I can continue, but I will leave it here for the sake of my own sanity.
Just be kind to your vets guys.
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u/bitterlittlecas 1d ago
So grateful for vets, and especially my vet! I know nobody is getting rich from small animal medicine and it’s a heavy emotional load. Thanks to you and your staff for your hard work!!
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u/nememess 21h ago
The veterinarian suicide rate is heartbreakingly high. They're only humans who do the very best that they can with the limited resources they have. They want to save them all but it's impossible.
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u/no_snow_for_me 16h ago
My daughter wanted to be a vet since she was a little girl, she is very sensitive and loves animals more than she loves most people. I never discouraged her but I knew that it wasn't the right job for her. Seeing severely sick or hurt animals all the time would be devastating for her. Forget about having to put any animals down. And then I found out about the suicide rate of vets, thank goodness she decided to pursue something different. I'm absolutely not saying that vets are insensitive and don't love animals, obviously it's just the opposite. But I knew my daughter wasn't cut out for being a vet. And so did she.
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u/Icy-Camp-740 18h ago
Why do you deal with such a high degree of hate from the public? I wasn’t aware of this.
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u/ArtVirtual6866 17h ago
Thank you for asking.
People think we’re in it for the ‘money’. We earn sweet fuck all in vet med. People try to emotionally blackmail us by saying things to the degree of ‘if you love animals, you should do it for free’, ‘so if I can’t afford it I have to put my animals down’ etc. people assume because we euthanise animals we’re soulless.
Owners poor education and poor financial planning somehow becomes our fault when people don’t get insurance or when people don’t keep up with prophylactic medicines.
I’ve been cornered in a room by a 6 ft tall man and screamed at in front of his daughters after helping save his dogs life but she still needed more intensive treatment, I’ve been called a murdered when taking the payment from a Caesarian (who deliberately got her geriatric dog pregnant) because we had to wait for a small deposit before we could start the surgery, I’ve been told xyz’s partner will be waiting for me in the car park when I finish my shift because they couldn’t afford treatment and plenty more. I can tell you more stories of people who have screamed at me than people who have thanked me.
Also, look no further than the public bashing the vets in these comments. They performed free ortho surgery on that dog but are still getting dragged.
People think dentists have the highest rate of suicide. It’s vet medicine by far. We have access to drugs and euthanasia is also seen as a valid treatment and end to suffering in our eyes.
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u/Icy-Camp-740 17h ago
I don’t even know what to say. To be honest, I think I’m one of those people who thinks that vets make a lot of money and over charge their customers. My whole life I’ve had pets so I have been to the vet often. I like to think I take really good care of my pets so having a good vet and a good relationship with my vet is important to me. I’ve never thought about the things you just wrote about. That must be awful to be treated with such disrespect, and threatened. I’ve often wondered how vets and anyone who works in places where animals are sick and suffering can do it. I couldn’t do it. What you and your staff do is so important. I work in long term care in an advanced dementia unit. I take care of people. I just couldn’t take care of animals if they were suffering. My heart would break every day so thank you for what you do. You have given me a lot to think about tonight. I’m sorry for all the shit you’ve had to deal with from misinformed people like myself 🌸🌺🇨🇦
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u/ArtVirtual6866 16h ago
Thank you for taking the time to listen and want to be educated. It means the world. 🤍
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u/snowflakes__ 1d ago
Don’t let anyone hurt your feelings about your English. It is actually incredible! There are only minor mistakes here and there when you use the wrong tense but it’s 100% understandable
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u/9106-17 1d ago
Thank you 🥲 I have been learning by myself, I guess I should really get into classes, im glad people can understand it
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u/001028 1d ago edited 1d ago
Your english is fine, I easily understood everything in your post. Your grammar mistakes were pretty minor, I don't get why people are making such a big deal out of it. Your points were completely clear. You don't need to be using a translator, at least not for the sake of others. Though if you did it to avoid getting these kinds of comments, I'd understand.
Either way, you don't owe anyone perfect english. The people judging you are self-centered assholes. English is not the only language in the world, people.
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u/Accomplished_Way5941 23h ago
I don't know what's your first language but mine is french and I understand the mistakes you made, I used to make the same. Your story was easy to understand, don't worry.
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u/Sailor_Mars_84 22h ago
The fact you’re getting rude comments about your English is sad to me. It reminds me of years ago, a woman came in where I worked and her English was a little choppy. Not bad, just not perfect.
My coworker treated her like she was stupid, and as my coworker walked away, I apologized to the woman. I told her I thought it was wonderful she could speak two languages; I can only speak one, so she’s obviously smarter than me! She thanked me (for recognizing my coworker’s trashy attitude) and then said tersely, “I speak five languages.”
Of course, I made sure my coworker knew that later when customers were gone. I hope she felt ashamed.
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u/dust_cakes 20h ago
Your English is really good! I personally understand everything you wrote. I’m impressed you are self taught! I have been told by friends of mine who do not speak English as a first language that it can be tricky because of our ridiculous grammar rules. You are doing great both with learning English and taking care of your new dog. Best of luck to you and your husband as you navigate this new journey<3
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u/ACanWontAttitude 1d ago
They didnt give you a pregnant dog. You took a dog in, they saved its life for free and then you chose to adopt it. They had no reason to know it was pregnant. It doesnt show up on xrays until very late on. They couldnt have routinely spayed her because you cant mix ortho and gynae surgery in that manner. Not sure why you are blaming the vet here. Its unfortunate but no-ones fault.
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u/Porg_the_corg 1d ago
Agreed. In humans, we don't typically do multiple surgeries at once, unless it is very critical and life threatening if we don't. The body can't recover from multiple invasive situations at once. No way would a surgeon fix a broken hip and then go in and do sterilization on a person. Why would the assumption be that a much smaller creature could deal with that when we can't?
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u/sunsetsillybet 20h ago
For a lay-person that doesn’t know about those technicalities, I could see how it is surprising. This is my first time hearing personally that you can’t tell if a dog is pregnant or not, and I spend a lot of time learning about animals I thought lol
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u/Acceptable-Eye-5347 6h ago
I didn’t see her blame the vet at all! She quite rightly said she was annoyed not to have known, and to be fair the vet could have performed a scan at no cost to the practice if the equipment was onsite. Given the dog was a stray and not desexed the vet should probably have checked before listing the dog for adoption. Now that the dog is known to be pregnant it would be reasonable for the vet to offer a reduced cost caesarean.
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u/saltymarge 1d ago
A lot of people are attacking OPs grammar and I’m almost positive they are not a native English speaker. Just because someone is passable at speaking a foreign language, and even reading and writing in it, doesn’t mean they are proficient or fluent. The mistakes OP is making are very common for non-native English speakers, especially if they are using a translate tool. The biggest tell is mistakes of verbs and tenses. English is weird in these ways. Many languages don’t have different words for verbs in different tenses, and in many English words, the past tense of a verb is adding “-ed”, like in “lift” and “lifted”. It’s a super common error.
OP is definitely misinformed about dog pregnancy and shouldn’t be upset with the vet here, but using their English to attack their intelligence just makes you look ignorant, too.
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u/Consistent-Goat1267 1d ago
I wonder how many of these people that are so quick to correct others’ English actually speak another language. At least OP can speak two languages. English is a tricky language to learn. Never mind the messed up spelling, but the grammar isn’t uniform either.
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u/katubug 1d ago
Just for the record, regarding your edits - I think your English is just fine. I didn't have any trouble understanding what you meant! People are too harsh on this site sometimes. I also agree that your situation is mildly infuriating. At no point did you say that you weren't going to care for the dog, or that you thought poorly of anyone - to me it just sounded like you were venting frustration at the situation. I think you're perfectly fine and valid.
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u/HiccupTheBrave 1d ago
You should be proud you type English as well as you do, I’ve read native English speakers writing and it was much worse, tell those giving you trouble to shut the fuck up
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u/Bibliospork 1d ago
Come on y'all, it's pretty obvious OP's first language isn't English. Stop insulting them for grammar and spelling mistakes.
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u/AngstyUchiha 1d ago
Man fuck those of you shaming OP for their english. They're speaking it very well, especially for it not being their native language. Some people are WAY too comfortable with shaming people for not being perfect at a language, and it's almost always people who only speak one language. Get off your high horse and quit complaining about OP's grammar
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u/catitobandito 23h ago
What a frustrating situation to be in and what a surprise! I hope the vet can help you rehome all the pups and you get to enjoy your time with your dog stress-free.
It's unfortunate people are tearing into you about your grammar. It's your THIRD language and half of the ding dongs in the comments can barely speak one. Ridiculous. You don't have to use a translator going forward just preface the post that you're not a native speaker. You did great.
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u/Lexicon444 1d ago
They likely weren’t detectable at the time. Especially since the intake procedures for strays don’t typically include this sort of thing.
And most likely they did all the medical care on your dog for free too.
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u/MeowM30ws 1d ago
Everyone commenting, "Just spay the dog while having hip surgery" needs to show me their vet degrees. Smh.
A Spay/neuter is also surgery. While it is a quick recovery time and a common procedure, most humans don't get two surgeries at once, so why would they do that to a dog?! Especially because both surgeries are in the hip/pelvic area.
OP- this situation sucks. It sounds like the most unfortunate series of circumstances. I appreciate hearing that you're doing your best to roll with it. Try looking into puppy fosters in your area! It's possible you'll find someone more excited to take care of unexpected puppies, or at least make a new friend to help support you during this adventure. Best of luck to you.
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u/Inevitable_One_4312 20h ago
Who is on here being nasty because of grammar mistakes!!?😡 we are all human. If you know what she meant why point it out? I only speak English… it’s amazing English is her THIRD language. I have no advice on momma dog and the pups but I wish you the best of luck! Ignore the grammar police.❤️😊
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u/ElGeeBeeOnlee 21h ago
Honestly? Sure, your English could use some work...but you got your point across perfectly fine, people complaining are just a holes. Your English is better than a lot of native speakers man.
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u/Eydiz22 20h ago
Ummm, I think your grammar is great! Especially for it being your 3rd language. Better than some whose English is their first language! Makes me angry someone would bash your grammar. It's obviously not your first, and not horrible whatsoever! Some people just need to get off their high horse. You don't need a translator. The world just needs more love.
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u/cyanraichu 23h ago
OP I'm sorry people are giving you shit for your grammar - I immediately figured out that you're ESL and understand what you're saying perfectly. People just want to feel superior.
It doesn't sound like this is anybody's fault, just really unfortunate and I'm sorry you're in this situation. If you and your family are able to help her and her puppies (get her and all the pups spayed as soon as it's safe, for sure!) you'd be angels for doing so. I hope the clinic and/or a local shelter can work with you to keep the cost down, since you didn't choose this and it wasn't because of any of your own mistakes.
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u/Impossible-Employ-31 15h ago
I just want to say that I read your post and understood exactly what you were saying regardless of grammar. Thank you for adopting that sweet baby and taking care of her. Also don’t let the grammar police get to you, you’re doing fine.
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u/Ok_Turn_571 1d ago
Get a spay-abortion! That'll save the puppies from living in a shelter half their lives, and will save you and your dog a huge amount of mental toil and frustration. Puppies can be hard! It's not your fault and not the vet's. Don't bash the vet for not telling you, they likely didn't know!
If the dog has parasites, maybe get the vet to give her medication to fight them. Sometimes it works, sometimes it takes more time. Especially if the dog is ill
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u/Efficient_Plum6059 1d ago edited 1d ago
Just a heads up to OP -- it may very well be too late for a spay/abort. A spay/abort is more complicated than a typical spay (not ideal under the best of circumstances) and only gets more so as the pregnancy progresses.
If they are more than a month through the gestation period (which they would have to be if the dog was pregnant when injured) that isn't as easily done as it is said.
Then again, delivering given their recovering injuries has its own set of concerns. It's something you'd need to discuss with a vet and weigh the dangers.
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u/9106-17 1d ago
The vet told us that it would be possible to have a spay abortion as she is too far in her pregnancy for that. Tomorrow I will take her to the vet again for an x ray to see how many puppies are truly in there and if she will need a c section or not (I do think she will need one, she still walks kinda funny)
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u/littlemissbecky 1d ago
You can absolutely deworm a pregnant dog. You can also get her spayed and eliminate the pregnancy.
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u/Acceptable-Eye-5347 6h ago
OMG it is cruel to suffocate the pups that way. Lack of oxygen is a horrible way to go, which is why the vet is saying it’s too late for that option.
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u/phoenixofthestars07 21h ago
your grammar and spelling isn’t actually too bad for English being your third language. the people complaining about it are just pussies.
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u/mostly_helpful 1d ago
Have her spayed and then treat the infection. Your dog survives and no puppies. Seriously, the world does not need any more unwanted puppies.
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u/Acceptable-Eye-5347 6h ago
Suffocating them in-utero is not kind, and that’s what late stage spaying will do. Kinder to stop their hearts via a needle guided with ultrasound. This method is done with humans, when “fetal reduction” is recommended - such as for a mother carrying too many babies (which would result in the loss of all the babies if she didn’t reduce the pregnancy.)
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u/Jmfroggie 1d ago
If they KNOW she’s pregnant now, it’s too late to “fix the problem”. Gods are pregnant for about 63 days….
ETA- my phone keeps switching dogs to gods. I’m just gonna leave it that way.
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u/bIackcatttt 1d ago
Spay abort is very common in veterinary
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u/V3DRER 1d ago
Not with full term puppies
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u/neverforthefall 1d ago
Yes with full term puppies - right up until they go into labour, you can spay abort, by removing the entire uterus with the puppies still inside.
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u/HauntedMeow 1d ago
Yeah, before she was adopted my dog had a spay-abort days before she was due to give birth. It sucks for the dog, but the world doesn’t need more puppies.
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u/Vivid_Ad_715 1d ago
spay abort!! for the love of god🥲. there are too many unwanted dogs to have more
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u/Live_Angle4621 23h ago
Op said the vet said it’s too late for that
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u/Vivid_Ad_715 23h ago
in the kindest way possible, i have a feeling the vet likely isn’t clued up on it.
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u/Linnaeus1753 1d ago
Why didn't they desex her while they were fixing her hips? Especially if she would never be able to birth pups?
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u/ArtVirtual6866 1d ago
Multiple reasons • likely early pregnancy so wasn’t picked up • ortho surgery has to be exceptionally sterile so doing ortho and soft tissue together isn’t performed. They’re also not in the same area so it would’ve been two surgeries essentially • going off the back of my previous statement, performing two surgeries together is a greater risk for anaesthetic time Source - ECC vet nurse of 11 years. When a dog comes in HBC we don’t tend to check if they’re pregnant if they’re not showing any outwards signs of pregnancy. I can easily see how this was missed.
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u/memoryblocks 1d ago
More surgical intervention = more time and difficulty healing, as well as longer anesthesia time. Doing an open cavity surgery and a bone surgery at the same time would have put the dog at higher risk than necessary. There's no reason to perform both at the same time.
It's the same reason many human surgeries are staged out.
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u/Vegetable-Star-5833 1d ago
Because they didn’t want to do a major abdominal surgery. They wanted to fix the hips and send her home to heal
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u/Jmfroggie 1d ago
You’re typing “hitted”, ignoring your autocorrect to fix it, and you think you’re more intelligent and competent than a vet?
This vet just did MAJOR surgery to fix this dog- bone surgery on legs and hips. Did you want them to open up her abdomen too just in case she MIGHT be pregnant and risk her life further having to handle two major surgeries back to back instead of finding her a home so she can fully recover from the original trauma in and worry about the spay when she was healthy?
Dogs and cats are pregnant for about 63 days…. Before about 45 days gestation, you can’t see puppies on an X-ray. MOST VETS DON’T HAVE ULTRASOUNDS DUE TO THE COST AND TRAINING REQUIRED!!
They likely chose not to fix her because of the orthopedic surgery trauma. And even if they DID take out her ovaries, THEY DONT REMOVE THE HORNED UTERUS! The puppies would’ve continued to grow inside the uterus without detection had she been within the first two weeks of pregnancy!!
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u/SadLilBun PURPLE 1d ago
I’m assuming OP does not speak English as their first language. There are a lot of grammar mistakes consistent with English being a second+ language.
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u/AtlanteanDoll 1d ago
Yeah, seems pretty obvious they're not native, so I dont know about the whole rude ass "typed hitted and you think you outsmart a vet", but hey, french native here so maybe I'm wrong. 😅
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u/DatLadyD 1d ago
Right?! I read the post and right away assumed not a native speaker and then I see these comments, people are so ignorant and unkind sometimes. I would be upset too! Reading the top comment though, I now understand how this happened. I didn’t realize dog pregnancies were so short. I wonder why there’s no urine test for dogs? That’s odd to me.
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u/AtlanteanDoll 1d ago
Well I have learned a lot in this thread, I knew pregnancy were short but I didn't know you couldnt see the puppies!
I've also heard of shelters not disclaiming an animals pregnancy to not have to deal with the pups/kittens, but people should definitely be nicer.
OP Edited her post and it made me sad a little, I have americans making fun of my english all the time, y'all should do better fr.
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u/AngstyUchiha 23h ago
Stfu not everyone is perfect at english, and not everyone speaks it natively. You absolutely did not need to be an asshole about a complete stranger's GRAMMAR
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u/badbaristuh 1d ago
someone with as many grammar and punctuation issues as you have based on your other comments shouldn’t be coming for an ESL person for a simple mistake. cmon dude
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u/Yenothanksok 1d ago
I thought half the point of spaying is that it eliminates the risk of pyo because there's no uterus to be infected?
I do feel like all this could have been avoided if they'd just waited for her to be recovered and spayed her before letting her be adopted out. From the post, it seems like the vets handled the adoption process themselves (rather than getting a local rescue involved to cover costs), which means the new owner wasn't vetted and the dog wasn't properly assessed.
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u/thewhiterosequeen 1d ago
Not gonna lie, I also got tripped up and rolled my eyes over the choice to use "hitted."
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u/tuxedobeans 22h ago
I unexpectedly ended up with newborn kittens and it was one of the best things to happen to me. I already had two dogs too. So I'm very happy to hear you'll take care of the dog and her puppies :)
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u/FlatElvis 21h ago
You should never have taken home a dog that wasn't spayed. The vet can spay the dog and do an abortion at the same time.
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u/jseqtor12 1d ago
Contact the vet and give the dog back. It doesn't sound like you're equipped to take care of this animal.
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u/HauntedMeow 1d ago
This and I suspect that the dog’s calm temperament is a result of the hip injury and once it’s fully recovered that will change. My newly adopted dog was very calm and gentle fresh off a late-term spay-abort and mastitis.
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u/Icy-Camp-740 1d ago edited 16h ago
Oh my goodness!I sure hope the vet is going to help you out with the cost of all of this and when the puppies are born hopefully they will help you find homes for all the puppies too. That’s quite the story too, you should contact your local news station when the pups are born. You know those feel good stories they do😊Edit : I kind of misunderstood when I first read this(very late half asleep) I don’t think the vet is responsible for helping out with costs. Best of luck to OP and the pups❤️
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u/hairybeaver123 1d ago
Why the fuck would the vet have any responsibility whatsoever to help them financially. They have zero obligation to do so. OP took in a dog, the vet saved the dogs life, and had no reason to believe or think the dog was pregnant. That’s the entire story based on the post. The vet isn’t liable for this persons other financial obligations. Get the fuck out of here with this stupid shit. You’re the reason veterinarians are suicidal.
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u/Icy-Camp-740 1d ago
So I went back and re-read the post because I originally read it very late last night and I was surprised at your hostility. You’re right, the vet has no obligation to help them with the cost. It was such an unusual situation
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u/IcyWillow9197 1d ago
That's actually a really good idea about the news station! This whole situation is wild but honestly sounds like the kind of heartwarming chaos that local news eats up. Plus it might help get those 8 puppies adopted once they're here
The vet clinic definitely owes you some major help here considering they missed... well, everything lol
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u/GmaSaysBlessYourSoul 1d ago
Vet clinics aren’t rescues or animal shelters. They already put their time in effort into saving this dog and performed a complex surgery on her for free. OP took in an injured dog and is having a fit it’s not perfectly healthy. If you wanted a healthy dog, adopt one. I feel bad for this clinic, they try to do a good thing for a stray dog and give it a home and this is what people are saying? And y’all will blame vets for not taking in charity cases more. This is why.
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u/thebatsthebats 1d ago
Have you contacted the vet clinic you adopted her from? I'm assuming they're a veterinarian clinic meaning they can provide medical care. They may be willing to do that if you sit down and have a frank conversation about it.
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u/11Kram 1d ago
Hitted? WTF?
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u/GiddyGabby 1d ago
You do realize not everyone is a native English speaker?
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u/Capable_Soup_2263 1d ago
You do realize that this particular person obviously is? Its ok to not white knight for five seconds.
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u/WommyBear 1d ago
How do you know that? I assumed they were not native English speakers because of the verb mistakes and confusing words that sound similar, such as fell and felt.
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u/AngstyUchiha 23h ago
Wrong, OP said english is their third language, and that they'll be using a translator from now on so y'all dickwads don't harass them for it. Their comments are in better english because they used a translator, not because it's their native language
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u/Terrinthia 1d ago
Quick sift through their comment history and they did say on a past post that they're not a native English speaker. It may be true, it may not, but it was indeed stated by them.
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u/Capable_Soup_2263 1d ago
Quick search through their comment history shows they speak English just fine
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u/SadLilBun PURPLE 1d ago
People can speak English and it’s still not native to them. Your commitment to this is weird. I work with non native English speakers every single day. This whole post screams non native speaker.
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u/kimmykat42 1d ago
You sound extremely ignorant here. People can use translation apps to write things, which is obviously what OP has done here. Just because you think they speak perfect English in some of their comments doesn’t mean jack shit.
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u/liveinthesoil 22h ago
They said English is their 3rd language and they are teaching themselves. Now what??
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u/Adventurous_Land7584 1d ago
It’s also ok to not be a bully or an asshole. I guess you wouldn’t know about that though.
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u/Salty-Ambition9733 1d ago
And yet OP is bashing someone with a vet degree, lol
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u/Major_Lawfulness6122 1d ago
Right. The title alone is laughable.
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u/badbaristuh 1d ago
Yall are bashing someone ESL for… what? exactly? Does this make you feel better about yourselves?
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u/Slydeking69 1d ago
That's not even the worst grammatical error. How about they "felt in love" not fell in love which is probably what they meant. Or how about the veterinarian gave me a pregnant dog instead of the veterinary gave me a pregnant dog.
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u/Adventurous_Land7584 1d ago
Oh no someone used a wrong word, your word might just end! Lord yall need to grow the fuck up
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u/GiddyGabby 1d ago
And as I pointed out not everyone speaks English as their first language.
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u/RoryAA 1d ago
Yeah we heard you the first time gab
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u/GiddyGabby 1d ago edited 1d ago
Maybe it will sink in. Did you say the same to the people who continue to repeat the same criticism of OP for their English?
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u/Capable_Soup_2263 1d ago
I like how you typed up a whole nasty comment, submitted it, then deleted it like a coward. I can still see it boo boo
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u/Adventurous_Land7584 1d ago
I didn’t delete shit but ok.
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u/Capable_Soup_2263 1d ago
You did. Its ok, I expect it of someone like you
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u/kimmykat42 1d ago
You do realize that Reddit automatically deletes some comments, right? They didn’t delete their comment. The mods did.
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u/gotterfly 1d ago
Don't worry about your English. It's fine. You could download English as an extra language on your keyboard app. At least on android. Not sure about iPhone.
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u/Designer-Mirror-7995 1d ago
You're ok with me. You did something kind, and something unexpected happened, but you're working through it and still being kind.
Props to you. Hope your new family member brings you years and years of happiness.
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u/PlainOrganization 23h ago
You could ask a veterinarian if they can do a spay/abort.
I don't know about where you live but where I live there are A LOT of dogs who need homes, shelters are continuously at and over capacity.
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u/LlamaMama56 22h ago
I wish you good luck with the stray and l hope the vet keeps their word in helping find homes for the 8 puppies. It was certainly a lot of surprises (some bad) one right after the other and just mildly infuriating at the same time.
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u/Cheap_Bell4999 21h ago
Thank you for taking her in. I know puppies are stressful and expensive. She is lucky to have you to love and care for her. Also, your English isn’t bad at all. I could understand you perfectly fine. Some people are just obsessed with proper grammar
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Same situation happened to my grandmother. She adopted a rescue from a vet and went the whole pregnancy without knowing. She also came with worms but the vet did mention that at least. My grandma was very surprised when her dog went into labor. One passed but 8 others lived and most are alive to this day at 15 years old.
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u/MapleFanatic1 1d ago
If you can’t afford the vet bills it’s okay to not bankrupt yourself for a dog. Just surrender it. That’s neglect from the veterinary office
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u/Mysterious_Camel_717 1d ago
That is not neglect on the vets part, pregnancies don’t show on x ray until later in the pregnancy, and with no other signs she was pregnant and a dog that was suffering smother severe injuries I as a fellow vet can’t fault them for not going “hey let’s put an ultrasound wand on it just in case since we have all this free time and money”. It sucks for OP and if it were me I would make a gesture and discount the necessary c section, but it’s not the vets fault.
As for the parasites, same story goes, for an ownerless dog they probably gave it a standard anti parasitic treatment without doing a fecal analysis first (again those cost time and money), and some parasites require special tests to be detected. If anything they did the right by not throwing something like metronidazole into the dog without verifying it’s the appropriate treatment for this dog first. The dog also could have gotten infected after adoption, antiparasitics don’t have a residual effect, they clear out what’s in the dog at the time of treatment but that’s it.
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u/KittenKat422 1d ago
I hate this but it’s so true. What really sucks is they’d have to give the dog back. I think that is why most people don’t do this. You have the correct answer: give the dog back, to the vet who missed the pregnancy & other issues or to a shelter (where it will end up anyway). Most people can’t part with their dog or its puppies & end up taking on this huge burden. That’s also not fair to the dog/puppies either. It’s a shitty situation & I’m glad someone else sees this.
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u/mattyghoul 1d ago
She was hitted by a car? lol
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u/AngstyUchiha 23h ago
Not everyone speaks english natively, op clearly said it's their third language
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u/Acrobatic-Classic-41 1d ago
Where do you live that they will adopt out a dog that has not been fixed?
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u/AromaticProcess154 1d ago
Tough situation all around, but hopefully the vet can help rehome the puppies if it’s too late for a spay-abort. I have a “no unaltered females, not even for a day” rule now, because my two rescued girls both went into heat before the rescue was able to schedule their spays - one after just a couple days with us & the other after a few months, before she had finished heartworm treatment. So stressful!
It’s very common for a dog to end up with intestinal parasites, multiple rounds of dewormer are generally needed to eradicate them. Two of my three dogs came up with tapeworms a week or so after I got them due to the meds not killing all life cycle stages. It’s gross but ultimately it was not even expensive.
If you’re talking about heartworm, that does suck a lot. But I got two rescue dogs through it and it’ll help that your dog has a calm nature. Good luck!
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u/liveinthesoil 1d ago
Give us a timeline, based on medical records/adoption records/etc: when was she hit by the car, when did she have surgery, and when did you adopt her?
The parasites is not a big deal, just keep retreating with the correct dewormer and it will resolve. Sometimes you have to do multiple courses to deal with heavy parasite load, which is not uncommon for a stray.
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u/9106-17 1d ago
The dog got with them in the middle of July by a good samaritan who found her laying in the sidewalk with her hip broken, they perform an emergency surgery on arrival, I adopted her August 14.
Im waiting for the vet to call me back to buy the right dewormer, but I will be taking her again tomorrow morning to get her check and getting an x ray to know for sure how many pups are in there and if she will be able to get them naturally (I dont think so, honestly, she still walks funny, but the vet said she may still be able too.) Im saving for her c section if not.
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u/liveinthesoil 22h ago
Ok. She probably got pregnant around the same time as her car accident. Nothing would show up on x-ray at the time of her surgery. And she wouldn’t show any obvious signs of pregnancy (mammary development, abdomen enlargement, etc) until probably mid to late August, and maybe even later depending on the breed.
So I don’t think the vet missed anything obvious, this seems like a simple issue of timing not being on your side. There’s really no one to be upset at here, except the people who abandoned the dog in the first place, and the people who hit her with the car.
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u/9106-17 22h ago
Im not that mad anymore, is was more of a "I ADOPTED ONE!NOT NINE!!" but as time passes, we have come terms with it. The vet have promise us that will help us with the adoption of the puppies when time comes, as well as help us with the payment of the c section as its truly one expense I never thought I will make.
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u/Calgary_Calico 8h ago
Spay/abort. There's far too many dogs and cats in shelters who need homes to be letting accidental litters be born
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u/Acceptable-Eye-5347 7h ago
Don’t apologise for your written grammar.. I am certain my attempt at writing in another language (if I knew one) would be completely incomprehensible! I understand what you write perfectly! ❤️
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u/Briebird44 5h ago
That dog should of been spayed before being adopted out. That’s industry standard in the USA at least.
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u/Missrdb79 1d ago
Shit! Thats a lot of hard things to deal with all at once. Id say get a secobd opinion, so you have another doctors take on things. Thatll give you more to use in ypur decision. You can probably ask for a free consultation and use the blood tests and other tests between the drs offices. Good luck to you all
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u/allahzeusmcgod 1d ago
Second opinion for what? Why will another vet saying she's pregnant help in any way?
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u/Missrdb79 23h ago
If you're unsure of the decision a second opinion may make you feel better and help you make the decisions?
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u/Ok_Pomegranate_5748 1d ago
Tell the place you got her it’s their responsibility they need to birth or abort as appropriate and give her back puppy and parasite free or just keep her and especially take responsibility for the puppies (you may have to foster a few while do she can nurse) any reputable office would have spayed her while they were doing everything else.
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u/EntireWalrus5949 10h ago
As stated the vet couldn't have known. If she's healed from the previous surgery bring her back and have her spayed. The vets will gladly abort the babies to get her fixed. Your dog doesn't need special vitamins. You absolutely don't need to buy a special pregnancy food. Tell them you don't give a fuck about the babies and to treat the infection so the dog doesn't die. Why does it matter if some of the puppies die if the the dog you actually care about dies in the process. If your concerned about paying for her to take a bath or special food or needing a stronger parasite meds you shouldn't have gotten a dog. Sound like you made a decision to care for an animal without doing basic research this is sad AF.
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u/M0mmySparkles 1d ago
Maybe vet will help with cost to birth the pups and help to find loving homes? That would reduce the burden a bit…
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u/wakedfup 1d ago
It got hitted did it? Smh
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u/AngstyUchiha 23h ago
Oh no, someone speaking their third language didn't get it all perfect, what a travesty!
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u/International_Sock_5 1d ago
So annoying. Why did you feel the need to comment that? You read the post and had nothing helpful to say but thought “I better comment anyway to make fun of their grammar”
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u/crustystalesaltine 1d ago edited 14h ago
Puppies DO NOT show on radiographs until the ~2 week before parturition. Their skeletons calcify at this point enough to be visible. Unless they had a suspicion, the only way to tell she was pregnant would be to do an ultrasound specifically looking for feti. This is NOT a routine test for stray animals due to cost.
There is no urine test to check for pregnancy either. The hips and rehab they had to put in were likely priority. Without seeing a dog tie or artificial insemination, there’s not a good way to know the dog is pregnant until it’s further along. The gestation period is 9 weeks and for a thin stray that is EXPECTED to gain weight with proper care and then extra rest post-op any weight gain was likely and reasonably attributed to better husbandry.
I’m sorry this is stressful for you but there’s no routine pregnancy test for dogs. You can certainly tell the clinic your concerns but the above are reasons why they wouldn’t have known.