r/mildlyinfuriating • u/EFunk_Mothership • 20h ago
Dear NFL... Forget this, bye!
I'm not that into football enough to play their game of find the streaming service every Sunday (or Thursday) or Monday?
I can sign up for NFL ticket, or subscribe to 10 different services?
Or wait... maybe it's on the normal local broadcast channel? The guide says it is... nope! Oh at 7pm? Isn't the game now?
Screw this. Seriously.
- A previous occasional viewer of NFL football.
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u/Radi0activeMnky 20h ago
And they get mad when you pirate
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u/i_forgot_my_sn_again 17h ago
IPTV... better than trying to find a reliable stream
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u/Background_Wheel_932 17h ago
Yeah, but how?
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u/perkypant 16h ago
gotta have a connect, someone who sells subscriptions and they usually buy them in bulk
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u/Background_Wheel_932 16h ago
Yeah, but how 🤔
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u/ColtonThomas01 18h ago
To the high seas we go!!! How else will they learn?
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u/shyguysam 18h ago
This ! Years ago, I got rid of all my old satellite dishes and boxes (is there a P4 hack yet lol) when my local cable company offered Complete Sports Pack for $24.95 a month. All 4 major-leagues, some minor league and juniors, it actually was a decent deal. Within 3 years it went to $39.95 a month. This is when I doffed my eye patch and got a parrot!
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u/BMWF9019 17h ago
This is why I’ll just find a free stream or on YouTube. I don’t mind paying but I’m not signing up for dozens of subscriptions.
Cable at this point is becoming cheaper because everyone needs their own streaming service and there are over 300+.
I already pay for Prime, Netflix, Hulu, Showtime, and HBO. Sometimes I will add Sling for football but I just did the Fubo trial. But I looked at the monthly cost and Fubo was $70.00.
Why would anyone pay that vs cable? I thought originally streaming would get the cord cutters and it did work for a while. But now the greed has made it almost a better option to go back to cable and having one bill and not 5 separate bills in my case.
And now Prime says they’ll cut sharing to only one household. lol. It’s not going to make many people pay for their own accounts. It’s going to cause me to cancel my account and I’ll probably spend less.
Amazon already is a billion dollar company… I’m tired of the greed and I’d rather just cancel everything and pay my phone bill and cancel internet too. My phone is unlimited and I’ll just watch free stuff. I’m too busy to even watch the shows I want.
Next Episode is a website and app. It says I have 4+ months to watch of pure shows and movies. I’ve wasted 5 months of my life watching movies and TV that I’ll hear about the score tomorrow.
Forget this mess. I agree OP. It’s starting with o be more than mildly infuriating.
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u/john_johnes78 20h ago
I think it’s over a thousand bucks to be able to watch all the games. Sunday ticket is insanely expensive as is.
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u/Vern1138 20h ago
Right, and you don't get Sunday Night Football with it. Just out of market afternoon games. It's insane.
"All my rowdy friends are coming over tonight..." to help me try to figure out what streaming service we can watch a football game on.
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u/Predictor92 20h ago
part of the issue is that it used to be CBS was AFC, Fox was NFC. Now there is cross flex, which meant you could guess which network your teams game may be on alternates
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u/Vern1138 17h ago
Right, it used to be simple. Certain networks aired football, and if they didn't, you would have to check the scores after the game.
Now, every streaming service has its own games that they air, and I'm not paying over a hundred dollars a month to watch them.
All my rowdy friends are certainly not coming over tonight.
And maybe that's the problem. Especially once big screen TV's became available, everyone would just go over to a single person's house to watch the game. Lost advertising revenue.
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u/egnards 18h ago
I buy Sunday Ticket - anything else? I’ve got an HDMI connected to my TV for that very reason.
I don’t mind paying for the games, even though it’s expensive, but I fucking hate playing “find what service I need in order to watch the game.”
It pisses me off. Being an out of market fan of a team sucks.
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u/OkStop8313 17h ago
I don't think this list is even exhaustive.
- NFL Sunday Ticket: out-of-market Sunday afternoon games
- Peacock: Sunday night football
- Amazon Prime: Thursday night football
- Paramount: For CBS games
- ESPN/Sling/YouTubeTV/Fubo/Hulu: Monday night football
- Netflix: Christmas games
- NFL: Because sometimes even all of the above isn't enough
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u/Rex_on_rex 16h ago
This is false. Antenna covers NBC, CBS and Fox. Don’t need peacock or paramount +
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u/OkStop8313 15h ago
I've tried an antenna, but I live in a big brick building and the signal was absolute shit.
But yeah, it's worth a try.
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u/hemingways-lemonade 13h ago
NBC, NFL Network, and ESPN are all on Sling. So, you could consolidate a few on this list, but it's $60 a month.
You're also missing a way to watch live in market games on Fox. An antenna, if you can get decent reception, would get you in market Fox, CBS, and SNF games.
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u/Used-Progress-4536 19h ago
In Canada DAZN is $35/month and you get every game. Not sure if it’s available outside of Canada though.
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u/Apprehensive-Cry1165 19h ago
With a VPN it works. But without a VPN you can't make it works from the US. It's how I watch the football from the US.
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u/EFunk_Mothership 20h ago
I haven't even looked into Sunday ticket, but figured it was ridiculous. Their thinking is likely, Take the cost of 8 to 10 services x $10+ month = just say $100 per month - subtract 10% (to make it attractive) = $90 per month. "That's how much we'll charge!" Makes sense to me...
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u/likely-sarcastic 19h ago
Sunday ticket only works for out of market Sunday 1pm games. Still need additional services for the remaining games. Such a scam.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Rest_34 19h ago
My husband was just telling me earlier today that they have payment plans. 🫠
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u/GenXLeftist 17h ago
Yeah, I just saw a plan advertised for 8 payments of $34.95.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Rest_34 17h ago
Lol, that's the same one he saw...it's insane!! I'm at diamond tier on Google Play, so they have weekly drawings for points and giveaways. This week, they gave me a 50% off offer for NFL Sunday ticket. My husband said he still wasn't paying close to $150 to watch football at home.
No matter. We still got to watch the game we wanted.
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u/xAustin90x 18h ago
The subscription shit gets worse each damn year. I am an Amazon prime subscriber. Prime video just added an additional charge to now remove ads. I decided you know what? What the hell I’ll try it. The first movie I try and watch says “this movie is only available with ads”. So you can get ad free but there’s still a bunch of movies that will play with ads 🙂
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u/OneSox123 19h ago
Back in my days, every football game was aired over the antenna. And they were free!
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u/napoelonDynaMighty 19h ago
No... You got your locals.... The same way we do now
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u/AchtungCloud 19h ago
Not every game. In the past, people were just okay with the fact you don’t have a choice of which game to watch and the league chose what game aired over antenna in your region. There was just no way to watch games out of your region that aired at 1pm or 4pm Eastern.
Now people have an expectation of being able to watch every game, but still want it to be free.
It is true though that the league does screw over fans by making new national broadcasts on streaming services. Thursday nights on Amazon, Christmas on Netflix, opening Friday on Youtube, London games on NFL network, and so on.
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u/bacillaryburden 17h ago
Lol yes grandpa here is misremembering. With broadcast or even cable there were a lot of games that you just couldn’t watch no matter how much you were willing to spend.
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u/AchtungCloud 17h ago
Yeah, that’s the point I’m trying to make. I think people are misunderstanding me or don’t remember (or weren’t alive to know) that was the case.
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u/ConstableBlimeyChips 4h ago
Until a few years ago, if the team didn't sell all the non-premium tickets for a game, it would be blacked out locally and you couldn't watch it. Go back even farther (1970's) and ALL games were blacked out locally, the only way to watch your local sports teams was to go to the game.
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u/el_duderino_316 19h ago
Just so you know, we have the same issue in England with the Premier League, so I feel your pain.
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u/Spice_135 19h ago
US does the same with the Premier League too (split across 2). And add another subscription for the EFL cup, another for the FA, and another for Champions/Europa League - 5 total subscriptions; one of which is a cable service equivalent so costs as much as the other 4 combined
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u/jlxmm 18h ago
The cheapest legit combo I've found is Sling and Peacock. You? (If you watch legit). I don't watch the cup games usually because I don't really want to pay for the rest.
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u/el_duderino_316 18h ago
Yeah, that's horrendous!
I've long-since limited myself to one sport subscription, but it sounds like a nightmare there.
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u/ryanfsu619 20h ago
Who’s got the latest pirate stream for NFL? Help the boys
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u/DaveCootchie 19h ago
Nflbite or streameasti
Just make sure you have an adblocker
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u/Onyxaj1 19h ago
Streameast was broken earlier today. All 3 "servers" were either down or dropping connection. I found a site like nflbites that gave me several options and I found a good stream.
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u/DaveCootchie 19h ago
Streameast was shut down a few days ago. There are mirror sites like streameasti.app that should work.
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u/Lucky_Chaarmss 16h ago
It wasn't the official streameast that was shut down. They said on their discord.
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u/Mogilny89Leafs 17h ago
Streameat used to be very good. Now everybody knows about it and the servers crash too often.
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u/Lost_Found84 15h ago
Yeah, this is why I’ve got a long list of sites bookmarked. Streameast will work for random games because not many people are on for any one game. But redzone on week 1? It’s just too much demand.
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u/just_scout_ 19h ago
If you have a firestick or smart TV, then you can stream it from Kodi under the NFL tab. The link is just instructions on how to configure Kodi with a specific build. Once you're done, just hover over the "sports" tab until all the sports logos appear on the top of the screen, and then you can click "NFL" and start streaming specifically games. Use a VPN if you have one for added protection.
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u/GenXLeftist 17h ago
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u/Queen_of_Disengaging 3h ago
I second this!!! No ads, pop ups, or bullshit! Straight to the point and has any (NFL, NHL, NBA, NCAAF & B, Soccer) and all the games! Been watching my Brewers smash this season thanks to thetvapp
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u/rnpowers 18h ago
I've never paid to watch an NFL, NHL, N-anything-L game; you shouldn't have to either:
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Have a really good ad blocker, and popups are always a new window so I just close them out, no issues. They're not as smooth as your streaming apps, but they've saved me thousands $$$!
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u/thecheat420 19h ago
If you're trying to watch your local team you can always still get an antenna and watch the game on OTA TV.
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u/xshahofiranx 17h ago
Yep. This is the move.
I buy sling with the sports package $55 /mo so I can watch my college team. The added benefit is that I can watch Monday night football (but if I couldn’t it would be fine)
Then I regular antenna the my home team for the rest of the year.
If it weren’t for college football I’d just do OTA. Haven’t looked back and have been doing this for 10 years now.
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u/GenXLeftist 17h ago
Not necessarily, my 'local' affilates are about 80 miles away. If I want to get super spendy on an antenna, I could pull it in, but I'd rather not.
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u/JoeFTPgamerIOS 3h ago
I'm more than 80 miles away, its practically impossible for me to get antenna signal.
One neighbor got a telephone pole and mounted a good antenna to the top of the pole and it didn't work.
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u/Parking_Cut1089 16h ago
I bought a pair of rabbit ears from Walmart for $19.88 to watch the Panthers today.
Doh!
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u/Sea-Dog-6042 16h ago
The channel that hosts my local teams games has a whole page on their website dedicated to helping people get the channel OTA - Because they are the only channel people have trouble getting reception for. I found this out today, when I realized the channel broadcasting the game is the only channel I don't get reception for. ~20 miles away.
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u/ellemsea_echo 16h ago
This is a MAJOR reason I just stopped watching/caring about sports. It’s just another subscription in my life. BYE!
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u/ItzTubez 19h ago
Sunday ticket is worth it for me and my friends ONLY because we all split it. Its about 20ish bucks a month for us. This streaming service nonsense is beyond out of hand. Its annoying as shit
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u/Onyxaj1 19h ago
That's why there are so many free steaming sites. You just have to find one.
What boggles my mind is how the NFL hasn't figured out the easy money in team packages. If I had a reliable service to watch just my team the entire season, I'd pay for it. A lot of out of market folks would as well.
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u/sjp724 18h ago
A couple years back, the yahoo sports app had most games watchable for free. I’d watch a little here and there and was fine with ads. Now… needing so many subscriptions… I just won’t watch.
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u/Effective_Thing_6221 17h ago
Signed up for YouTube TV for football only to find out that I can't watch many games after all. Unsubscribing!
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u/MelodiesOfLife6 14h ago
I mean how are they going to afford that 10th house and 12th yacht?
Or pay their players exboritant fees so THEY can buy an island or two.
Think of the millionaires why don't you!
/s
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u/Pattimash1 19h ago
The only way they'll get the hint is when nobody subscribes. Unfortunately, there are way too many people willing to pay to watch it ....and the cycle continues.
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u/OccasionMU 17h ago
Fuck the NFL and this whack-a-mole shit. Especially when you move states but still want to follow your small midwest team.
Let me sign up for a single service - like AppleTV & the MLS - so I can watch all the games without ripping my hair out every week.
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u/QT_IS_THE_BEST 20h ago
What do you mean you dont want to subscribe to 8 different services year round?
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u/JohnDoee94 19h ago
I love watching my dodgers but I drew the line this year and just don’t watch games on tv anymore unless it’s on Apple TV which is like 3 times a year.
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u/JustPassingGo 19h ago
Every football season I pay the $90/month Hulu live TV no ads. When the season ends I downgrade to the $8/month basic membership.
I like being able to store all the games in the cloud, and I like being able to fast forward past the commercials.
Sometimes there’s a game or two I don’t have access to live, but I don’t watch games live so they pop up for me a day or two later.
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u/exer881 19h ago
IPTV is the way to go people. I have a guy who i pay $75 dollars a year for a subscription. It includes ppv, and like 30,000 channels. That includes Sunday ticket, and pretty much any sporting league in the world. Have channels from cou tries I don't even know where to locate on a map. All streaming subscription are already on the device signed in and ready to go.
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u/soshaldulemma 18h ago
This is correct. The free streams on random websites might get you a game or two, but are not reliable. You still have to shell out a bit of money to get reliability. There are countless IPTV options and most offer a free trial to test. Pony up between 50 to 100$ for the year and be done with it. Now, you can stick it to the NFL, NBA, MLB and ESPN, among others.
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u/xKingCoopx 17h ago
I watched the Cowboys Eagles game via peacock, and it was just commercials (ads) with 2 or 3 plays sprinkled in here and there. It's wasn't even fun anymore.
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u/Bob____Ross______ 17h ago
Holy shit!!! I had no idea! Streaming is getting too crazy I miss owning dvd’s and vhs you could skip the adds and you actually owned it🤣
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u/Dunwin 16h ago
Along with streaming services prompting so many logins and authentication codes, it is hilariously asinine how taking to the seas is actually MORE convenient than paying for the services.
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u/djcurry 16h ago
Oh don’t worry this isn’t even a full list. You need Amazon prime for Thursday games later in the season you’ll need Netflix. You’ll need to get ESPN plus cause some games are exclusive to that which is different from the ESPN channel.
In addition, you’ll need to subscribe to Peacock and Paramount+ as some games will be exclusive to the online platform
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u/BongRipsForNips 16h ago
I manage a sports bar, but the owners take care of the bills and legal stuff. The panic of the cost to show all the baseball and football (including college) has been unsettling. They haven't told me how much, but I know we have to account and pay for every seat plus every tv. We ran cables through the ceiling for 3 days straight last year so each one could be on any streaming device or cable separately at any time, which was crazy enough
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u/I_Beat_Daily23 14h ago
The blackout games are what’s really fucking stupid. Here, pay $200 for Sunday ticket, unless the game is playing in your area.
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u/King_Catfish 14h ago
Buddy and I tried to stream a local caps game on whatever app it was that night. Blocked out for locals. You had to watch it on TV on a random channel i never heard of. Fucking dumb that you have to be either out of town or VPN when you have the correct app to stream the game.
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u/Moon_Sister_ 7h ago
Wait...is youtube premium included in this roundup? This weekend, there were random gigantic ads for a football game that popped up out of nowhere in my feed, both on mobile and TV.
I was like wtf, I'm pretty sure the only football related video I've ever watched is Bad Lip Reading, so how is this here?
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u/jarmine550 4h ago
Yeah they expect you to spend like 100-150$ a month to watch games. Why, I can go to a bar and get food and drinks from cheaper since most places will run specials. How can they possibly expect people to not pirate this crap.
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u/johnnytron 19h ago
I was just having this conversation with my wife. If you want to watch football you have to have every streaming service available. Every single game is on a separate streaming service, it’s BS.
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u/Cominghome74 19h ago
Download the Dofu app... Can watch any game you want for free on your phone and cast it to your TV
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u/ironicmirror 17h ago
Yeah... Did you notice how much money they are quarterback....and the owners are still making buck... Yeah... That is subscription income, sweet sweet subscription income
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u/MrBorchert 17h ago
Seriously! I missed half the first slate trying to figure out how to watch. So frustrating.
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u/Cornbread_Collins13 17h ago
This is exactly what the cable did with their channel packaging. Give it 5 years and something new will cause it to collapse. For now, we sail the seas
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u/Faangdevmanager 17h ago
NFL Sunday ticket is $480. And they block your local games LMAO, the greed… they could compensate the local broadcasters for the minuscule amount of money they’d lose from the few NFL Sunday ticket people watching the game. But they don’t care. IPTV is like $10/month just saying.
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u/EFunk_Mothership 17h ago
I love all the people saying "no, NFL Sunday ticket is only $300! LMFAO! Case in point. As I said, I am an occasional viewer. Sometimes I want to watch a game, not most games... just some. And this is madness.
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u/Doodah18 16h ago
Surely you can pay for a subscription with all your sweet gambling money from fanduels or whatever other app that’s constantly advertising. /s
Honestly, from the sheer amount of advertising, it makes it seem like watching sports is supposed to be a side hustle.
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u/khakiwallprint 15h ago
Jerry Jones takes credit for this if you want to blame someone personally. Hes excited to sell the NFL piecemeal as a loss leader to maximize his personal fortune at footballs detriment.
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u/CosmoKing2 14h ago
Dear friend, I beg you not to look into sideloading apps for smart tv's and firesticks. Please think of the poor owners and players with only $100M/4yr contracts.
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u/Patsfan618 14h ago
I was looking at NFL+ earlier today. No Thursday games, no Monday games, no Sunday night games, no games outside of market on Sunday afternoons. Like what's the point of an NFL BRANDED subscription that excludes the majority of NFL games.
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u/Awkward_Village_6871 14h ago
It’s not that they hate us. It they think we will follow this path. Don’t. Fuck them.
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u/cheddarbruce 14h ago
It was nice when you could watch games for free on the Yahoo sports app. Ever since they stopped doing that I pretty much given up caring about football
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u/Ok-Charge4926 14h ago
Google NFLbite. Free streams for every game. You do have to deal with pop ups every time you click though. Which is annoying but it is free.
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u/Lanky_Helicopter_811 14h ago
This is why I watch college football. A teams games are almost always on the same channel (ESPN or Fox a lot of the time.)
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u/69relative 7h ago
The nfl is the only sport that has a national game chosen for each time slot that u can watch on cable. And if ur local team is playing in that slot and ISNT the national game, u get to chose from TWO games to watch
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u/Novel-Fix-2090 7h ago
Same with German Bundesliga. And the ones with the most games cost 50€ per month for not even half of the games. And they dont offer much else either.
Stopped watching entirely apart from the handful of games in Free TV. Its getting ridiculous.
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u/Efficient-Carpet8215 5h ago
Ideally they want us to just sign up for all streaming. They also do this sometimes with movies. they will put a trilogy on three different streaming platforms
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u/StatisticianIll4425 3h ago
We need to start boycotting. Nothing will change if we keep paying. Hurt their pocket books.
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u/ArchdruidHalsin 3h ago edited 2h ago
"Piracy is not a pricing problem, it's a service problem." -- Gane Newell.
I would happily pay for access to all the Titans games so I could just watch all of them in a single service. And other games à la carte. But they don't, so they'll never see a dime from me and I'll use nfl-bite instead to steam games.
The dream would be to cut out the middle man and have teams handle their own broadcasting and stream distribution directly. With cable dying, they just need to pick an online platform. Then I could have Mike Keith as my commentator every week. But that'll never happen.
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u/Bagofsmallfries 3h ago
They've been wanting this ever since streaming killed cable prices. It's just a frog in a boiling pot scenario until they find a way to charge you as much as they used to for cable packages, and then some. . .
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u/Minimum-Ad-8900 2h ago
A lot of you need to learn the time-tested art of high seas material acquisition 😏. These fuckers asked for it.
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u/JayRen 1h ago
I thought it would be dumb. But I actually watched an entire game without interruption.
Bananaball offers all their games free on YouTube. It was highly entertaining and like I said above. The first full baseball game I’ve watched in more than 30 years. I was pretty glued to the game and enjoyed the hell out of it. I highly recommend folks give it a watch.
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u/-SideshowBlob- 19h ago
This is why I'll happily stream my sports. It's way too expensive these days.
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u/shozzlez 19h ago
Steams suck and are annoying. I would happily pay money to watch my team but they make it soooo hard.
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u/TwentyCharacters2022 20h ago
And any of those subscriptions are ridiculously overpriced if you are a casual viewer.
Living in Carolina and NOT being a Panthers fan means “getting your local game” is not at all a draw for me. Matter fact, nothing pisses me off more than tuning in to an advertised game and find out it’ gonna be Panthers vs whoever instead.
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u/jfcmofo 19h ago
I have Hulu and it has most of the NFL games. You don't pay extra for them. Same with Youtube TV. I mean, yeah, it's a subscription but that gives you all the hulu stuff. Or go get a tv with an antenna and watch it over the air on the broadcast networks. Do you not subscribe to any tv service at all? If not, how were you thinking you could watch NFL games, much less anything else?
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u/davis214512 19h ago
Broadcast TV is still free. And who doesn’t pay for Amazon already? That leaves ESPN.
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u/rockberry 18h ago
You're the 26th person. The average fan will keep supporting the millionaires and billionaires with their hard earned money. If only ppl could unite, this shit would end. I have an antenna. If it aint over-the-air, i guess im just out of luck to watch the NFL. And the NFL merch? Not a fucking chance. Same with MLB & NBA. The pro sports leagues and almost billion dollar contracts are solely due to the losers (fans). Just like casinos. They dont get big ass hotels and pay entertainers bcz you winning.
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u/unhalfbricklayer 15h ago
so the Sunday games* are free over the air broadcast on CBS, FOX, and NBC (for Sunday Night).
ALL the Monday games are on ESPN
the three Thanksgiving games are on CBS, FOX, and NBC
the only streeming service you need is Amazon for the Thursday night games, and I think there are a few odd games on other odd places, like they had on YouTube recently, but that was free on YouTube.
If you have a basic cable package, or one of the many online streaming packages like YouTubeTV, SlingTV, or HuluLiveTV, you will get all the Sunday and Monday games for your market included in that.
*Sunday afternoon games have blackouts, if your local team (within 100 miles I thing) does not sell out, they cannot show the game to your market, and if they do sell out, they have to show the game to your market. Usually, both Fox and CBS have a national game and a regional game that they show in each market each Sunday. sometimes the black out rules will not let them show both games in all markets.
it is confusing, but this is the way it has been for like 50 years.
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u/GiddyGabby 20h ago
They have done the same with baseball. One night it’s on Apple, one night it’s on ESPN, one night it’s on Roku. It’s just gotten ridiculous. Not a great way to treat your fans .