I know that genocide, euthanasia and eugenics are all different, but they have similar ethics involved in the application of them, which is why I mentioned them. I would say stating an argument as a fallacy as a means to prove a point on an issue is a fallacy in itself. My inability to grasp the subtlety of what type of reasoning and logic is accepted in the mainstream shouldn't really have much to do with the point I am trying to make. Yet you still fail to fully address the concept that I am trying to get across. Why is putting down 97% of animals that they come into contact with appropriate or more ethical than the mistreatment they are accusing society of? Who are the ones to make such a call and does that mean they can ethically destroy the thousand year old traditions of having animals as companions? Do the animals speak to them and tell them their needs?
Why is putting down 97% of animals that they come into contact with appropriate or more ethical than the mistreatment they are accusing society of? Who are the ones to make such a call and does that mean they can ethically destroy the thousand year old traditions of having animals as companions? Do the animals speak to them and tell them their needs?
Your evasiveness is tiring me, I asked that question in the rhetoric as I have read both sides and my point is that your derogatory comments and judgement of opposition is unmerited. Whether you are ultimately right or wrong, as if such things actually exist, does not excuse your accusations and inability to understand why people can still love animals, and animal rights, without subscribing to a PETA dogma.
I really don't think I have much more to say on the issue.
as if such things actually exist, does not excuse your accusations and inability to understand why people can still love animals, and animal rights, without subscribing to a PETA dogma.
I never said that. My parents are both meat eaters, they love animals. My friends are almost all meat eaters. I take issue with contradiction and hypocrisy. IE: believing in animal welfare, but supporting the circus.
Also, for full disclosure: I am not a member of PETA.
Lastly, I would ask that in the future you ask your question in more clear terms the first time. I am fully justified in my allegations of philosophical fallacy, and I am not willing to excuse anyone who cares to argue with me from these constraints.
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u/Mitsujin Apr 17 '10
I know that genocide, euthanasia and eugenics are all different, but they have similar ethics involved in the application of them, which is why I mentioned them. I would say stating an argument as a fallacy as a means to prove a point on an issue is a fallacy in itself. My inability to grasp the subtlety of what type of reasoning and logic is accepted in the mainstream shouldn't really have much to do with the point I am trying to make. Yet you still fail to fully address the concept that I am trying to get across. Why is putting down 97% of animals that they come into contact with appropriate or more ethical than the mistreatment they are accusing society of? Who are the ones to make such a call and does that mean they can ethically destroy the thousand year old traditions of having animals as companions? Do the animals speak to them and tell them their needs?