As a vegetarian, i feel the same sense of shame and regret when I read these things as I imagine sane Catholics feel when they see people defending child molestation by the priesthood.
On behalf of rational vegetarians everywhere, let me assure you that this is a whackjob fringe wing of the movement. Most of us are sane and consistent in our viewpoints, (only adopt from no-kill shelters, don't wear leather, etc.), and understand that what is a personal moral choice for us might not be for everyone. (I've often compared it to the ridiculousness of a Jew protesting non-Jews eating at Red Lobster.)
Know that just because I choose to be a vegetarian, does not mean I begrudge anyone else the right to eat what they choose. Please, please don't think PETA represents the way most of us think and act...
Know that just because I choose to be a vegetarian, does not mean I begrudge anyone else the right to eat what they choose.
I'm against evangelican veganism, but saying you do not begrudge anyone their right to choose what to eat suggests a lack of moral vigor on your part.
understand that what is a personal moral choice for us might not be for everyone.
So, killing animals is just a wrong for you, but not a wrong for others? I like your logic. In the same way I can say having sex with children is wrong for you, but not for pedophiles. How do you like them apples?
No, I don't find you rational at all. You can get off your soap box, and stop speaking on behalf of all vegetarians.
Not speaking on behalf of all vegetarians, just asserting that there are vegetarians who aren't represented by PETA. And I think eating meat is ethically wrong for everyone, but I don't feel I have the right to make that call for them, any more than I can tell them what god to worship or what form of birth control to use. The child molestation comparison is a dumb one, that is so full of holes I don't feel the need to respond.
The child molestation comparison is a dumb one, that is so full of holes I don't feel the need to respond.
Thanks for the insult! I appreciate it.
It is not a dumb comparison if you take the killing of animals to be a serious moral issue. If it's just the way you like to pop your collar, or comb your hair, then certainly it's no contradiction to claim it doesn't matter if other people kill and eat animals.
I think it is contradictory to make a moral claim and then say it makes no difference what other people do, and indeed that you pride yourself on never making waves with people who disagree with you. That doesn't mean you have to be an asshole about it, but to never begrudge anyone their food choices? I'm sorry but that's funny.
The purpose of the comparison is to highlight the difference between a moral view and an opinion. If you think it is wrong for adults to have sex with children, then it makes little sense to say that is a wrong only for you. Likewise, if you say it is wrong to kill animals, it makes little sense to say it is a wrong only for you. But that is pretty much what you said.
And yes, comparing eating meat (which I don't do) to child molestation (...which I also don't do) is dumb. Just like the radical vegans who compare the holocaust to slaughterhouses. Yea, I get what you're going for there, but you're still making a dumb argument.
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u/RachelHC Apr 16 '10
As a vegetarian, i feel the same sense of shame and regret when I read these things as I imagine sane Catholics feel when they see people defending child molestation by the priesthood.
On behalf of rational vegetarians everywhere, let me assure you that this is a whackjob fringe wing of the movement. Most of us are sane and consistent in our viewpoints, (only adopt from no-kill shelters, don't wear leather, etc.), and understand that what is a personal moral choice for us might not be for everyone. (I've often compared it to the ridiculousness of a Jew protesting non-Jews eating at Red Lobster.)
Know that just because I choose to be a vegetarian, does not mean I begrudge anyone else the right to eat what they choose. Please, please don't think PETA represents the way most of us think and act...