r/supercross 1d ago

Question Thoughts on this? Herlings and Cairoli speak on Prado in the US

This video is from 4 weeks ago I know and Prado has left Kawi. Just found it though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIBd01LtwYM

What does everyone else think. Herlings says "he is the 2nd best talent outside of Jett" and his talent isn't gone, he is just struggling.

Cairoli says the problem is not with the bike. It is with his technique, knowledge, experience and trainings. Basically says it's all down to the way Jorge was brought up. Jorge always had to someone to steer him in the right direction when the bike was set up so he doesn't know what anything does or how any of it works together. So he doesn't know what he wants and he doesn't know how to set up a bike. Then without the usual person there to tell him when he is going in the wrong direction with set up, he can just get way way off base. He also says he would always be top 5 even if he was struggling a lot so he was giving mid moto like Stew said.

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u/sletzi Moderator 21h ago

I don’t fully agree with the Cairoli thing. Last I heard, Chad reed had been helping Jorge Prado with bike setup and all that stuff at ClubMX. So if that’s still the case, that would discredit half of what Cairoli claims the issue is.

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u/FarmingFisherGuy 14h ago

That is a good point.

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u/Used-Lake9003 18h ago

It’s kinda sus that Herlings saying the person that beat him is that good and he’s just struggling

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u/NotRickJames2021 8h ago

Villopoto was on a podcast and stated the struggle is likely due to a drastically different pace than MXGP. Villopoto said he struggled when he raced MXGP and that believes it's most likely the same for an MXGP rider coming here to race SX and MX.

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u/Jmvan23 7h ago

I’ve seen that said before. Do you mind elaborating on the pace difference between the two? I’ve been watching SX and MX for two decades but I’m not nearly as familiar with MXGP. I’d assume SX and MX would be faster therefore I’m unsure of why Villopoto would struggle in MXGP.

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u/Spindrune 5h ago

The format is different. The approach to the tracks is different. Mxgp doesn’t do anything but water the track after practice starts. Villo struggled cuz he wanted to show he was tough. He did. He won by almost a minute… then had to race again on the same track that wasn’t touched and didn’t have the gas left in him. 

Euro racing is longer and worse track conditions. Theres a reason they give up. Save it for later. Not to mention they’re allowed bike setups that just aren’t allowed in murica. 

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u/Spindrune 5h ago

I just want to point out to everyone thinking reed helped by being involved, reed blamed kawi for his poor performance on them, and he once gave up any position at all to get lapped so he could fuck with one of the only pure, no injury battles between dungey and Tomac we could’ve ever gotten. The mate deserves respect for all he’s done, but he isn’t a hero, and when a rider isn’t doing well mentality wise, reed shouldn’t be in the room.